Boehner: 'Ask any employer' about Obamacare, so hey, ask me!

[eridani]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/04/1382423/-Boehner-Ask-any-employer-and-hey-I-m-one-of-those

But hey, Boehner says "ask any employer in America", and it just so happens that I'm one of those. Daily Kos currently employs 35 people. Vox Media, which I co-founded, is sitting at over 400 employees. And both those companies are in America, and so am I!

So ask me, "Has Obamacare has made it harder for you to hire employees?" And the answer is "what the fuck are you talking about? Of course not!" I mean, the whole concept is patently ridiculous. Why would the law make it harder? Note that Boehner doesn't even bother trying to explain why.

You know what would make it easier for me to hire more employees? Universal health care. Take away my healthcare costs at Daily Kos, and I save over $400,000 per year. That's what, four-six employees? I could use those extra employees, too. (With nearly 10 times the employees at Vox Media, I can't imagine how many millions that company would save with universal health care!)

[Sherman A1]

1. K&R!

[lamp_shade]

2. "...not a single business group filed an amicus brief in support of the King v. Burwell Supreme Cour

Court case challenging the law."

[patricia92243]

3. So he has stopped providing health care to his employees and they have

to buy their own??? That is the way I read it. Nothing to brag about.

[rgbecker]

4. He says he is paying $400,000 for health care for his employees.....

Nothing in there about not providing health care.

[hobbit709]

5. Reading comprehension fail.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

6. I think the point is that the ACA made no difference to the employer

The company is providing health care, and ACA has no impact on hiring or expense.

And I don't see the OP as any form of bragging. Just one employer's perspective.

[Adrahil]

7. Fuckin' A!

The Orange One is once again living in the land of bullshit. He's also looking at it from the complete wrong angle, as you've said. People in this country should never have to choose between health care coverage and a job.

The ACA is doing a great job plugging the holes, but its not everything we need. We need to decouple health insurance from our jobs and get everyone on the exchanges. I like the idea of having options in coverage, but at the end of the day, there is no good reason on this planet why health insurance should remain tied to our jobs.

I would say though, eridani, that to provide universal health care, your company could not just pocket the extra $400k, but rather, it would have to go to gubmint as taxes, or to your employees for to help purchase insurance on the exchanges. There ain't no free lunch.

[groundloop]

9. But the cost of Universal Healthcare would be less per employee

Take away the cost that goes directly to insurance company profits and each of us will end up paying less for healthcare.

[Adrahil]

10. I'm not necessarily in favor of eliminating insurance companies...

... I'd want to hear more first. I do LIKE the idea that I can select the plan that works best for me. For example, the plan my wife's job offers requires getting a referral from the PCP before going to a specialist. My plan doesn't. If my knee hurts, I can go right to the Orthopedist. It costs a tad more, but well worth it to me. Universal coverage does not necessarily mean a single payer system.

OTOH, I do see the advantages of single payer, and would like to move that way if it is possible to maintain some flexibility in plans.

[csziggy]

11. Universal coverage could be like Medicare - lots of supplemental plan choices

I would bet that at some point in the future that is where we will be.

Medicare began as a very different system than it is now and I hope that someday Obamacare will change significantly and for the better. Guaranteeing the insurance companies a large profit (what is it now in Obamacare - 18-20%?) does not make our healthcare better.

I like Obamacare for now - my husband was able to retire from a job he hated that was hurting his health because we could get coverage. He took the job because we were uninsurable in 2001. Over the years he worked his insurance paid for ten major operations for me and one for him. He'd planned to work until he was eligible for Medicare but the stresses of the job were getting too much. So last fall we signed up for a policy through HealthCare.gov and he retired as of the end of January. He won't be eligible for Medicare for two more years so this is great!

[eridani]

22. Anything not in the genericv plan could be added with a supplement

Besides which, only the 15% of people who account for 85% of all health care expenses actually know how good their plan is. For everyone else, opinions are like their opinions of how good their fire extinguishers are.

[csziggy]

23. I know I will need a good plan and a supplement

With my health history of numerous injuries and surgeries I need the best health coverage I can afford! I'm one of the 15% who account for the 85% of health care expenses so I keep track of how good a plan I have.

[Enthusiast]

8. Fuck Boehner. He is another professional misleader.

[MyOwnPeace]

12. Sweet!!!!

To the point - and you are correct, sir!

[Aerows]

14. He's the epitome of a taker

What has he done, exactly, to elevate himself as an expert on anything other than being a lifetime recipient of our hard earned tax dollars?

Nothing.

[Enthusiast]

17. Tis true.

[hifiguy]

15. Captain Bourbonator would not know the truth

if it were a Neapolitan Mastiff biting him on the ass.

[Enthusiast]

16. Pffftt!

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[Aerows]

18. And that asshat, courtesy of our tax dollars

will never go a day in his life without health insurance.

We pay that SOB's salary so he can sit there and fucking lecture the people that PAY FOR HIS HEALTH CARE about how they are so damned greedy for wanting affordable health care.

He is an assclown with the audacity of a 3 year old screaming in the grocery aisle because mommy won't buy him a $300 action figure.

[Aerows]

13. As unproductive as John Boehner is

and his House with 9% approval rating, he's the last person on Earth that needs to be discussing what works and what doesn't.

He's so lazy and non-productive that even his tan can't bother to stop being orange.

How does an asshole like him get to the position he is where he can lecture everybody else on "productivity", "poverty" and "prosperity"?

Oh, yeah, he is just on the prosperity end of things without the productivity part. Lecture somebody else, you freaking idiot that has done absolutely nothing remotely productive for the United States since you were born.

[Enthusiast]

21. The media acts as if Boehner's words are deserving of great consideration.

This is why the media has no credibility.

[spanone]

19. k&r...

[Cha]

20. Kick

[Hekate]

24. KnR!

[Omaha Steve]

25. K&R!