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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:22 PM May 2015

Invincible? Poll: Walker, Bush lead Clinton head-to-head in New Hampshire

Two potential 2016 GOP contenders, Gov. Scott Walker (Wis.) and former Gov. Jeb Bush (Fla.) lead Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical general election match-up in New Hampshire, according to a new poll.

Walker is up 4 percentage points, 39 percent to 35 percent, while Bush leads by 3 percentage points, 37 percent to 34 percent, in the poll released Wednesday by the Nelson A. Rockefeller Center at Dartmouth College.

“If the Democratic primary field remains comparatively uncompetitive, Clinton will glide to a primary victory in New Hampshire as her core Democratic voter base is about as solid as one could hope for more than nine months from the New Hampshire primary," Ronald Shaiko, the survey’s director, said in a release.

“Her electoral success in November of 2016 in New Hampshire, however, is far from certain," he cautioned.

In head-to-head match-ups, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tied with Clinton, while Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.) trailed by 2 percentage points, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) by 3 points, and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by more than 10 points. All of the results were within the 5-percentage-point margin of error, except for Cruz.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/241189-poll-walker-and-bush-lead-clinton-in-new-hampshire

Cue the claims of it's from the right wing, the name of the joint is the Nelson Rockefeller Center, etc.

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Invincible? Poll: Walker, Bush lead Clinton head-to-head in New Hampshire (Original Post) cali May 2015 OP
The only way that poll has any credibility is if it is lopsided with cons NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #1
Yes, I'm sure the results are skewed. truebluegreen May 2015 #2
Nope. Not if you know NH. cali May 2015 #10
Then what you are saying is it is a red state or area, no surprise then NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #11
a) dems need NH. b) it's not a red state cali May 2015 #17
get back to us when they poll Bernie vs the clowns NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #18
I don't know what it's like now, but according to my slightly fallible recollection, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #29
Whats Bernie polling? JaneyVee May 2015 #3
They didn't bother to include any other Dem candidates or potential candidates: arcane1 May 2015 #4
So she's holding a slight lead in a red state and we're worried? JaneyVee May 2015 #9
Not me! n/t arcane1 May 2015 #14
Women comprised 52% of the New Hampshire electorate in 2008 and 2012 DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #19
I appreciate the data. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #30
Good thing she's not running for president of New Hampshire... DanTex May 2015 #5
Does that make you happy? PeaceNikki May 2015 #6
No. Unlike a lot of my fellow Bernie supporters here, I think she's the prohibitive cali May 2015 #15
Too bad they didn't get Sanders in there. former9thward May 2015 #7
Chris Christie is really doing that well? BlueStater May 2015 #8
Oh noez.....it's all over Cali_Democrat May 2015 #12
Triple Yawn! trumad May 2015 #13
Don't you have another Lounge style trumancentric op to post? cali May 2015 #16
Link to all New Hampshire polls DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #20
Dartmouth looks like an outlier. Not that presidential sufrommich May 2015 #21
They also had women/men ay 48%/52% of the electorate when it was the reverse in 08 and 012. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #22
A whopping 4 Electoral Votes are at stake here! LOL beaglelover May 2015 #23
4 electoral votes that would have changed the course of history in 2000 carolinayellowdog May 2015 #28
No one is invincible... but Hillary has a helluva better chance of winning than Sanders. DCBob May 2015 #24
The "invincible" yarn is a strawman DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #26
Wait till the country gets to know Walker. undeterred May 2015 #25
The only thing I will say about early polls nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #27
Yes, this far out they don't predict elections Jackpine Radical May 2015 #31

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. The only way that poll has any credibility is if it is lopsided with cons
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:23 PM
May 2015

then it has none

i guess it is possible they polled a very red group or area

that is the only way it is possible

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
11. Then what you are saying is it is a red state or area, no surprise then
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:41 PM
May 2015

My point is nationally Hillary would be way ahead of any of them

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. a) dems need NH. b) it's not a red state
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:46 PM
May 2015

It's purple but lots of folks here insist that it's blue. and we really, really need NH.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. I don't know what it's like now, but according to my slightly fallible recollection,
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:57 PM
May 2015

the "Live Free or Die" business kinda brought out the libertarians in force a few years (OK, decades) ago.

I don't know if that means anything, but the Hamsters (or whatever they call themselves) seem to be pretty idiosyncratic politically.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. They didn't bother to include any other Dem candidates or potential candidates:
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

To gauge the current political landscape in New Hampshire regarding the 2016
presidential election, respondents were asked whom they would support in matchups
between potential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and the following Republican
nominees: Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Rand Paul, Mike
Huckabee, and Ted Cruz. The results are presented in the figure below.


http://rockefeller.dartmouth.edu/library/2015nhstatepoll.pdf


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Women comprised 52% of the New Hampshire electorate in 2008 and 2012
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:50 PM
May 2015
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president/exit-polls


In the poll the OP cited they comprise 48% of the electorate:

The sample demographics are representative of registered voters in New Hampshire.
There were slightly more men than women in the sample, 52 percent to 48 percent.


Something is incongruous.


Link to all N.H. general election polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_bush_vs_clinton-4114.html#polls

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
30. I appreciate the data.
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:18 PM
May 2015

You really have to wonder what's going on when the 2 most recent Dartmouth polls shift from Clinton +10 to Bush +3 in the space of a week.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
5. Good thing she's not running for president of New Hampshire...
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:33 PM
May 2015

Seriously, this is getting pathetic.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
6. Does that make you happy?
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:34 PM
May 2015

I, for one, really always want to see Democrats polling better than Republicans. Especially Walker.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
15. No. Unlike a lot of my fellow Bernie supporters here, I think she's the prohibitive
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:43 PM
May 2015

favorite. I've also said for quite some time that I think there's a good chance she won't win the Presidency. It soes not make me happy. But I consider the determination to nominate her that been ongoing for over 10 years, a big mistake.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
7. Too bad they didn't get Sanders in there.
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:35 PM
May 2015

But I guess it was done before he got in officially. NH would be a good test because it is next door to VT so I would guess the voters there would have pretty good name i.d. of him there. It is too early for good name i.d. nationally for Sanders.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. Oh noez.....it's all over
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:42 PM
May 2015

Dems should just cede the 2016 election....because....of a single poll conducted in a tiny state a year and a half before the general election.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. Don't you have another Lounge style trumancentric op to post?
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:44 PM
May 2015

yawn at the me, me, me truman posts.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
24. No one is invincible... but Hillary has a helluva better chance of winning than Sanders.
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:21 PM
May 2015

Good grief.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
27. The only thing I will say about early polls
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:36 PM
May 2015

is ... too early to predict squat. They start to matter 6 months out. Right now...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
31. Yes, this far out they don't predict elections
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:21 PM
May 2015

but they can be useful to campaigners as feedback for steering the campaign.

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