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(14,255 posts)helpful.
That being said, any praise or criticism will be checked thoroughly, both camps, and even if praise or criticism is unassailable as truth, your source may invalidate your truth.
Do not criticize Hillary in the Hillary group; do not criticize Bernie in the Bernie group.
Have some real substance in any criticism.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Everyone else does.
Welcome to DU!
NobodyInParticular
(102 posts)when asking a random group of pro-Hillary Dems the question in this thread, what percentage of them would simply respond "no it is not" followed by whatever put-downs the respondent is inspired to utter, or what? I am not being rhetorical--I might actually try this as part of an ad hoc survey just to see what happens...
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Last edited Thu May 7, 2015, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)
Will be back to finish my thoughts.
Okay, I'm back ... (Arizona police frown upon typing while driving) ...
What do you hope to accomplish by the criticisms?
Do you don't that HRC supporters will not be moved off HRC by HRC-bashing; just like, Bernie supporters will not be moved off Bernie by Bernie-bashing? However, those in the middle (HRC-leaners and Bernie-leaners and those truly up in the air) might be swayed one way or the other for exactly the wrong reason(s) ... the same reasons the gop will use to bash whomever is the eventual Democratic nominee.
Do you doubt that there will be a gang of: "HRC is a fake populist, joined at the hip to wall street" gop ads; or, a bunch of "Bernie is a small market, self avowed SOCIALIST with bad hair" gop ads, just in time for the General Election, ... none of these will helps Democrats (or progressives or the world, for that matter).
AND/but, they will leave off the, "But she/he is better than any republican" part. So, since that IS what those in the middle have heard for the last 1 1/2, so ... it must be true. So, Why vote?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)and I'll let you know.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Get with the program.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)abakan
(1,819 posts)You should support whom ever you want but in doing so, it is not necessary to tear down someone else.
I wish everyone would stand back and support their candidate with praise. Let the repugs sling the mud.
Before it's all over the ugliness will have become unbearable.
NobodyInParticular
(102 posts)it is beginning to sound like you have to be a dreamer in order to expect a rational, low-key, sober discussion when it comes to our two senators.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)forum, where no unkind words about her are allowed, so I don't understand why they are so upset at criticism of her outside that group.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)the answer to that.
NobodyInParticular
(102 posts)is not a genuine answer to my thread-opening question. All in all what I am wondering about is how often I would get a clear and simple answer rather than a flight into either coyness or outright aggression.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)Which is not bad.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Criticism of Clinton--hell, even outright threats to not vote for her in the general or vote third party--are completely fine, but criticism of Sanders from people who've said they'll vote for him anyway is just a product of panicked neoliberal Wall Street PNAC-apologist meltdown.
Sounds pretty reasonable.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Different for everyone.
Does the criticism pertain to how she would lead the country? For me that includes honesty, trustworthiness and ability to accomplish things.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)If you were one of those kids who always hit other kids but responded with pained outrage when a kid hit you back, you may want to reconsider. If you don't mind having it thrown back at you, have at it.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Welcome to DU - FYI we have a Bernie Sanders group! Look for it to the left under Topics - click on Democrats.
NobodyInParticular
(102 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Why anybody would not have learned this lesson from the last decades of Republucan politics is a bit baffling. Nevertheless, too damned many DUers have not learned it.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)What Would Bernie Do?
AFAICT - As Far As I Can Tell - Bernie would keep the criticism to a minimum and make sure any criticism is factual and unemotional. I doubt Bernie would like his campaigners playing the 'personal destruction' games like the republicans play.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)...... It's the moaning, pissin', and crying that comes with it that's annoying.