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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Fri May 8, 2015, 04:26 PM May 2015

Are you a PRACTICAL Democrat? Take the 2-item test.

1) We need the TPP like our Democratic President says. (Yes) (No)
2) Citizens United is a Good Thing because our candidates need Big Money too. (Yes) (No)



Scoring: Give yourself 50 points for each Yes answer.

If your score is less than 100, please report to the Third Way's Citizen Rehabilitation Center for reprogramming.

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Are you a PRACTICAL Democrat? Take the 2-item test. (Original Post) Jackpine Radical May 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal May 2015 #1
Brain fart. Edited. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #7
Can you cite any Democrats that agree with citizens united? Renew Deal May 2015 #12
In Defense of Hillary Clinton, Democrats Embrace ‘Citizens United’ Jackpine Radical May 2015 #14
Perfect. Waiting for refutation from all Dems that think CU is good for this country: erronis May 2015 #21
Reread what was posted Renew Deal May 2015 #26
Just another note after reading Sirota's wikipedia page erronis May 2015 #23
The answer based on what you posted is no. Renew Deal May 2015 #25
Added link. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #27
Thanks Renew Deal May 2015 #29
Glenn Greenwald arely staircase May 2015 #30
I got a zero... peacebird May 2015 #2
Report.... Segami May 2015 #5
Took this test 50 yrs ago. Trig. Same result. Eleanors38 May 2015 #15
I'm proud to be there with you rock May 2015 #19
Funny, so did I Jack Rabbit May 2015 #33
More people would pass this with 100% Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #3
I, too, got a zero. Octafish May 2015 #4
-0 bravenak May 2015 #6
I knew I could count on you to score in negative territory on this one. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #22
Lol! bravenak May 2015 #34
Damn! I'm really bad at taking tests. I failed this one too. n/t Binkie The Clown May 2015 #8
Damnit! HappyMe May 2015 #9
Oh, no, not nearly as bad as you think. You might even like it. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #11
Test answers; SamKnause May 2015 #10
Zero. CharlotteVale May 2015 #13
a perfect 0 Doctor_J May 2015 #16
Are you a practical person? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #17
Shoot, I can tell you in question gratuitous May 2015 #18
Nada. zip. zipch. NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #20
Beyond absolute zero, even light freezes into a solid when it reaches the zone of my score. TheKentuckian May 2015 #24
Willl they also train me in proper news reporting nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #28
is the word practical synonymous with: guillaumeb May 2015 #31
No No AgingAmerican May 2015 #32
I scored 25. OilemFirchen May 2015 #35
I also went negative. Jim Lane May 2015 #36

Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
14. In Defense of Hillary Clinton, Democrats Embrace ‘Citizens United’
Fri May 8, 2015, 05:29 PM
May 2015

Last edited Fri May 8, 2015, 07:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Why are prominent Democrats suddenly championing the court ruling?
BY DAVID SIROTA

The same Democratic Party that slammed the Bush-Halliburton relationship now suggests that this type of behavior is fine and dandy.
Less than three weeks into her presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton has already accomplished a stunning feat: She appears to have unified large swaths of the Democratic Party and its activist base to support the core tenets of the “Citizens United” decision—the one that effectively allowed unlimited money into politics.

That 2010 Supreme Court ruling declared that, unless there is an explicit quid pro quo, the fact that major campaign donors “may have influence over or access to elected officials does not mean that these officials are corrupt.” The theory is that as long as a donor and a politician do not agree to an overt bribe, everything is A-OK.

When the ruling was handed down, Democrats were outraged, and Hillary Clinton herself has recently suggested she wants it overturned. Yet with revelations that firms with business before Clinton's State Department donated to her foundation and paid her husband, Clinton's campaign and rank-and-file Democratic activists are suddenly championing the Citizens United theory.



To advocates for limiting the influence of money in politics, this pushback from Democrats is particularly rich (pun intended) coming from a party that spent a decade asserting that Republicans raking in cash from Big Oil and pushing oil-friendly policies was rank corruption. The Democratic defense of their presumptive presidential nominee registers as especially disturbing to campaign finance reform advocates considering the mighty efficiency of the Clinton fundraising machine.


http://inthesetimes.com/article/17895/hillary_clinton_citizens_united

erronis

(15,241 posts)
21. Perfect. Waiting for refutation from all Dems that think CU is good for this country:
Fri May 8, 2015, 06:25 PM
May 2015

............

They'll be by soon. I can wait.

.............................

Maybe their cogent defense of CU got lost in the mail.

.....

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
26. Reread what was posted
Fri May 8, 2015, 06:59 PM
May 2015

And show me the "defense" of CU. There is nothing there but the claims of the author. The link is missing so we can't read the entire thing.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
23. Just another note after reading Sirota's wikipedia page
Fri May 8, 2015, 06:31 PM
May 2015

Many of us are rather fervent about items that concern us at a particular point of time. Many of us are also opportunists that choose topics that might be influential. Many of us can also change our minds, over and over.

Not sure about David Sirota after reading his involvement with AIPAC, a group with a influence level similar to the NRA.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
25. The answer based on what you posted is no.
Fri May 8, 2015, 06:57 PM
May 2015

Of course there is no link. But there isn't a single Democrat named or quoted in what you posted that supports Citizens United.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. Added link.
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:07 PM
May 2015

Actually I thought I had added it before, but discovered the edit apparently didn't go through.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
29. Thanks
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:16 PM
May 2015

The person is suggesting that Democrats support Citizens United by action, not by word. I think the claim is wrong and disagree with the idea that Democrats support Citizens United. It's just not true.

Democrats do support legal fundraising as a result of CU. There is nothing wrong with playing by the new rules even if we disagree with the rules.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. Damnit!
Fri May 8, 2015, 04:40 PM
May 2015

I'll bet the food is lousy, and they run out of liquor there.


Can't I get a deferment? *whines* I don't wanna go!!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Oh, no, not nearly as bad as you think. You might even like it.
Fri May 8, 2015, 04:51 PM
May 2015

They get ya all likkered up to soften your resistance.

They use booze because they're opposed to legalizing anything else.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. Are you a practical person?
Fri May 8, 2015, 05:40 PM
May 2015

You live in an area where there is no constabulary that is replete with mauraders who rape and pillage. What do you do?


1) You meekly surrender your wife or husband and family to the mauraders for them to do with what they wish.
2) You arm yourself the best you can to protect them and yourself.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. Shoot, I can tell you in question
Fri May 8, 2015, 05:43 PM
May 2015

Do you agree with gratuitous? (Yes) (No)

If your answer is "Yes," you are a practical Democrat, a fine citizen, and a sterling judge of the current scene. If your answer is "No," fuck you.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
28. Willl they also train me in proper news reporting
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:09 PM
May 2015

like cheering when told to do so? Because I tell you, I failed that one...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
31. is the word practical synonymous with:
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

deal making,
having no particular morals,
a corporate whore,
a sell out?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
36. I also went negative.
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:39 AM
May 2015

I answered No and No. Then on top of that they docked me 10 points for being a grammar Nazi about the first question ("like" should be "as&quot .

Us grammar Nazis just don't get no love.

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