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I have serious concerns about ISDS a policy in the new TPP trade agreement that would let foreign companies challenge American laws outside of American courts.
Ill give you a recent example of how it works: A big mining company wanted to do some blasting off the coast of Nova Scotia. The Canadian government refused to provide permits because it thought the blasting would harm the local environment and scare off fish that local fishermen needed to make a living.
Thanks to an ISDS provision in a past trade agreement, that mining company didnt have to go to a Canadian court to challenge the permit decision they went right to a special ISDS panel of corporate lawyers. Last month, the international panel ruled in favor of the mining company, and the decision cannot be challenged in Canadian courts.
Now the Canadian taxpayers may be on the hook for up to $300 million in damages to the mining company all because their government had the gall to stand up for its environment and the economic livelihood of its local fishermen.
And the next time a foreign company wants a blasting permit, what will the Canadian government do?
ISDS isnt a one-time, hypothetical problem weve seen it in past trade agreements. Just in the past few years:
A French company sued Egypt after Egypt raised its minimum wage.
A Swedish company sued Germany because Germany wanted to phase out nuclear power for safety reasons.
A Dutch company sued the Czech Republic because the Czech Republic didn't bail out a bank that the Dutch company partially owned.
Philip Morris is using ISDS right now to try to stop countries like Australia and Uruguay from implementing new rules that are intended to cut smoking rates because the new laws might eat into the tobacco giants profits.
The Obama Administration has said that they have fixed all the problems, and nothing like that will happen here. They just wont show you how.
Let's send a loud message to our trade officials: No vote on a fast-track for trade agreements until the American people can see whats in this TPP deal ISDS and everything else. Sign the petition right now.
Im not the only one worried about ISDS. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wrote in her book last year:
"We should avoid some of the provisions sought by business interests, including our own, like giving them or their investors the power to sue foreign governments to weaken their environmental and public health rules, as Philip Morris is already trying to do in Australia. The United States should be advocating a level and fair playing field, not special favors."
In March, more than a hundred law professors from all around the country wrote a letter about their concerns about ISDS. And five of the countrys top legal and economic experts Joseph Stiglitz, Larry Tribe, Judith Resnik, Cruz Reynoso, and H. Lee Sarokin all agree:
"ISDS weakens the rule of law by removing the procedural protections of the legal system and using a system of adjudication with limited accountability and review. It is antithetical to the fair, public, and effective legal system that all Americans expect and deserve. Proponents of ISDS have failed to explain why our legal system is inadequate to the task. For the reasons cited above, we urge you to uphold the best ideals of our legal system and ensure ISDS is excluded from upcoming trade agreements."
This isn't a partisan issue. I dont often agree with the conservative Cato Institute, and I suspect they dont often agree with me. But the head of Catos trade policy program said:
"[ISDS] raises serious questions about democratic accountability, sovereignty, checks and balances, and the separation of power... Sen. Warrens perspective on ISDS is one that libertarians and other free market advocates should share."
The Obama Administration says you have nothing to worry about to trust them that nothing could possibly go wrong. But they wont release the text of the TPP agreement to the public for you to see it for yourself.
Frankly, "just trust us" isnt good enough not for a trade deal that multinational corporations have been working on for years while the public has been kept in the dark.
Tens of thousands of people have already signed our petition: No vote to fast-track trade agreements until the American people can see whats in this TPP deal including ISDS.
http://elizabethwarren.com/blog
Please sign the petition now.
She's seen it, she's against it, she's not allowed to tell us what's in it but she wants us to know. Please sign. Give her some leverage with public support for transparency!
trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Social media-savvy true blue friend!!! That's awesome.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)still_one
(92,138 posts)fast tracked
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)on whatever corporate takeover deal they want as well. There are still some countries left, I think.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Signed on the dotted line.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)There won't be a text until the negotiations are finished and that won't happen until Obama gets fast track authorization.
Deeply misleading and frankly disturbing.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)...anti-democratic.
The idea that a President should not negotiate a deal that will need Congressional approval until Congress agrees to give up a portion of its constitutionally designated powers is neither what the founders intended, nor what is best for ythe American people.
Any deal that cannot stand up to Congressional scrutiny and be approved without Congress surrendering its powers to participate in the process (backed up by its constitutional power to amend, which is the power the executive branch wants to dispense with) is not a deal that should be made.
And, speaking of dishonesty, it is dishonest to misrepresent what Sen. Warren's petition supports.
Fast Track is NOT simply about the TPP. It would surrender Congress's power to amend, or to filibuster, any trade agreement whoever happens to be President for the next 6 years decides to present to Congress.
Senators Warren and Brown's petition is demanding that this Fast Track process for the next 6 years not be approved until we see the results of the TPP negotiations. If those negotiations result in a deal in any way similar to what has been leaked, then not only should TPP be trashed, but we certainly would not advance democratic governance by putting in place a process that would expedite futue bad deals for the next 6 years.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Of the many "disturbing" facets of this deal, quite frankly, is the secrecy. For six years, lobbyists have seen it & helped craft it. But our own representatives were left out of the negotiations. That means WE were left out. And no changes can be made. And congress will pass it because those same lobbyists write checks to their campaigns & Super PACs.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)No there's no TPP without TPA, and scaring people by pretending there is and fundraising on that claim is pretty low.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)If it can't be had out in the open, it shouldn't be.
If its something we can't see, its probably something we wouldn't like. Union leaders have seen it and they're fighting like mad to defeat this thing. I believe them over you...and my president.
I'm off now to contribute a bit more to Run Warren Run.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)if you really want to talk about TPA, here's how Brookings explains it:
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. . . we need to understand the essential role of TPA as a political device to give complex trade agreements a chance at successful negotiation and ratification.
At home, TPA reassures Congress of having a meaningful role in setting the trajectory and objectives of U.S. policy. Far from an abdication of authority, TPA allows Congress to retain responsibility for laying out trade policy objectives, remain appraised of the progress in the negotiations, and act as the ultimate arbiter in deciding the fate of a trade deal.
Internationally, TPA reassures negotiating parties that the carefully calibrated package of reciprocal concessions will not unravel at the ratification stage. Granted, TPA is an imperfect credibility mechanism since it has in the past not stopped Congress from demanding renegotiations. But without the modicum of credibility that TPA provides, it will not be possible for the United States to obtain a good deal, either because TPP countries are genuinely concerned about future asks or because they have the perfect cover to avoid politically painful concessions on sensitive issues. Either way, the lack of TPA weakens the hands of American trade negotiators.
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/order-from-chaos/posts/2015/03/13-geopolitical-importance-transpacific-partnership
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So "imperfect but necessary" is probably the best way to sum up TPA. In any case there won't be a final TPP without it, and to suggest otherwise is dishonest.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Everything we know about TPP stinks.
TPA will allow a "trade" agreement that stinks to be more able to pass, by allowing a process that expedites its passage primarily by surrendering Congressional powers before the stinking details are made public.
And additionally will allow future "trade" deals to be expedited no matter how bad they stink.
Supporting democratic process is not "low". . . What is "low" is expediting stinking deals by short-circuiting democratic processes.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)There is no such text to release.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)...deal without the details (which, if they are anything like what has been leaked regarding the negotiations, will result in such a public outcry as to strongly diminish the likelihood of passage) being released to the public.
That the final text may not yet have been negotiated is not the point.
The point, and what Senators Warren and Brown's petition democratically & rightfully demands, is that no process to expedite "trade" deals should be established before the details are made public.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)...are "dishonest", and falsely claiming that they are "misrepresenting" a Democratic initiative", and continuing to refuse to deal with the substance of what Americans are rightfully demanding, does not make a convincing case for Congress to abdicate its responsibility by expediting stinking "trade" deals in advance of publication of the damning details.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)allow Labor unions, environmentalist, human rights advocates to join in the writing of this trade agreement.
Right now only CEO's and lobbyists for multi-national corporation an review and write it.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Seems POTUS is taking aim at Warren over this. Huge fucking mistake. WTF is his problem?
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)99 thank yous for signing!!!
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thanks m-l!!!
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thank you A-S!!!
peace13
(11,076 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)peace!
think
(11,641 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)So glad you saw this & signed!!!
think
(11,641 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)oh yes you can! Thanks!!
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)If enough sign, she can use that in her senate battle. As early as Tuesday, I read.
Thanks CountAllVotes!
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)...beyond giving your email address to the Warren re-election campaign...
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Warren actually has passion & strong convictions in her Stand for People. She's actually fighting for this, not raising money for an election 3 years away...I can understand how you come to think that though, given your candidate of choice. Hard not to see through that calculating filter now, I imagine.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)...and since I know Warren's fundraising people personally, I think I do have a good grasp on her campaign strategy.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Keep trying.
tencats
(567 posts).
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)We're really racking up the signs! Love it!