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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:12 PM May 2015

Porn and video game addiction are leading to 'masculinity crisis'.

A leading psychologist has warned that young men are facing a crisis of masculinity due to excessive use of video games and pornography.

Psychologist and professor emeritus at Stanford University Phillip Zimbardo has made the warnings, which form a major part of his latest book, Man (Dis)Connected.

In an interview on the BBC World Service's Weekend programme, Zimbardo spoke about the results of his study, an in-depth look into the lives of 20,000 young men and their relationships with video games and pornography.

He said: "Our focus is on young men who play video games to excess, and do it in social isolation - they are alone in their room."

"Now, with freely available pornography, which is unique in history, they are combining playing video games, and as a break, watching on average, two hours of pornography a week."

Zimbardo says there is a "crisis" amongst young men, a high number of whom are experiencing a "new form of addiction" to excessive use of pornography and video games.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/porn-and-video-game-addiction-are-leading-to-masculinity-crisis-says-stanford-prison-experiment-psychologist-10238211.html

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Porn and video game addiction are leading to 'masculinity crisis'. (Original Post) Jesus Malverde May 2015 OP
Can I just play until I need glasses? DJ13 May 2015 #1
Sounds Ok to me. I watched porn until I got hair on my hands, then I quit. BlueJazz May 2015 #5
It doesn't hurt you eyes...it makes hair grown on your palms! HereSince1628 May 2015 #8
I thought that was just nature's way of providing padding for my joystick DJ13 May 2015 #15
Superfluous men pscot May 2015 #2
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #19
Well, it certainly has changed MannyGoldstein May 2015 #3
I must be above average, I Exilednight May 2015 #4
I can see maybe JonLP24 May 2015 #6
But it is their choice LittleBlue May 2015 #7
Many people do get addicted to video games NobodyHere May 2015 #11
Maybe they like video games more than their real lives LittleBlue May 2015 #13
I don't view it that seriously JonLP24 May 2015 #18
The word addiction is vastly overused Major Nikon May 2015 #16
Proof that the Internests was made for porn. Rex May 2015 #9
Maybe they can't afford a new sports car. moondust May 2015 #10
Well it's a lot less dangerous than real cars and cheap prostitutes... hunter May 2015 #12
Probably can't afford to pay for the dates anymore davidn3600 May 2015 #14
Yup I'm sure that's the underlying problem right there. Initech May 2015 #17
Maybe you should split the cost of the date... Agschmid May 2015 #20
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
5. Sounds Ok to me. I watched porn until I got hair on my hands, then I quit.
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:40 PM
May 2015

...for awhile...an hour.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
3. Well, it certainly has changed
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:32 PM
May 2015

We used to play sports and kick the @#$% out of each other.

Maybe the new way is better; I guess we'll find out. Change is scary, for me too.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. I can see maybe
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:42 PM
May 2015

pornography but not even close for video games. I sometimes have addiction for video games, especially for a new game. Difficulty or challenging can force a replay -- Just Cause 2 can be like that with the difficulty settings upped plus the map of Panau is huge. For the most I've been afraid to venture outside Rockstar sandbox games. GTA & Red Dead Redemption were great the first time but not much replay value. GTA 5 is different but I have an order to do missions side & main in order of they appear switching characters after each one so I can get bogged down in the side missions. I sit through taxi rides & the entire ride up the mountain I get bogged down.

I gave up on sports game, the difficulty sliders I just can't right settings & accurate scoring & stats. I could set MLB the Show 11 on one of the medium settings and have some days with a few hits another with 11. I did lead the league in the strikeouts in batting but I could never make it through a full season on baseball. NBA Live 08 was way too easy NBA 2K with Jordan on the cover frustrated the hell out of me with so many controls I could either euro step, hop stop, but couldn't seem to ever duck. The sliders were a nightmare as well.

Final Fantasy 8 is one I'd like to get back too, I quit years ago when I couldn't capture the most powerful monster in Pandaros box before the final act even with a Gameshark. I enjoyed the story that I'd like to finish. Fantasy 9 was too much like a cartoon I quit right away. I'm very interested in trying out Fallout New Vegas I hear Flagstaff is on the map but wish it was more like a shooter as the battle scenes get in the way of exploring.

On edit -- Of course I play single player games in isolation, nothing is more boring than watching someone single play a video game.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
7. But it is their choice
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:42 PM
May 2015

Calling it an addiction invalidates personal choice by implying that it is a treatable problem. I don't agree that everyone should be forced to live a certain lifestyle or be branded an addict. It is contrary to western belief in the freedom to live how we wish. As the article states, an article in Psychology Today says that porn ED is unsupported by the research.

Dr Zimbardo can take his theories to Iran or China where the authorities concern themselves with incorrect lifestyle choices.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
11. Many people do get addicted to video games
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:52 PM
May 2015

I'd compare it to alcohol or recreation drugs. Many people can imbibe a little and step away from it. There are a few though that can not step away and it leads to isolation, job loss, etc...

I've known several people who stayed home to play video games and lost their jobs or failed school(yet still responsible for paying for it) because of it.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
13. Maybe they like video games more than their real lives
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:57 PM
May 2015

People became hermits long before the first computer was invented. The question is whether video games are the cause.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
18. I don't view it that seriously
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:32 PM
May 2015

DU is far more addicting over anything I do, games are just entertainment.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
16. The word addiction is vastly overused
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:32 PM
May 2015

Generally it takes the form of demonizing something by making an implied analogy to a drunk or a junkie.

You can have a strong attraction to most anything if you experience it enough. That's not the same thing as someone who can't discontinue something without facing serious mental and physical withdraw.

Some people have just decided that life in general sucks and they would rather do something they enjoy rather than keep doing something that makes them miserable.

moondust

(19,974 posts)
10. Maybe they can't afford a new sports car.
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:51 PM
May 2015

To go on Saturday night dates that cost a small fortune.

Is it more about the games or the ongoing expenses?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
12. Well it's a lot less dangerous than real cars and cheap prostitutes...
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:56 PM
May 2015

... and, as Manny mentioned above, beating the @#$% out of each other.

They're not usually the sort you'd want your daughters and nieces, gay sons and nephews, hanging out with anyways.

And it's only going to get worse...

http://vimeo.com/12915013

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
14. Probably can't afford to pay for the dates anymore
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:09 PM
May 2015

Porn on the internet can be found for free... heck, even a lot of video games are free.

Yet the guy is expected to throw down $100+ every Friday night so his date can have a good time?

Initech

(100,065 posts)
17. Yup I'm sure that's the underlying problem right there.
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:26 PM
May 2015

We're going broke while the top 40 in the country have more money than half the world.

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