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sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:28 PM May 2015

You must remember this. Never forget where we were.



Yup, I know. It is all Obama's fault. All of it. It always has been. If you listen to some , you would believe he crashed the economy on his own. He created NSA. He is worse than Bush. He is Republican lite. Dear Gawd. Some here elected him or so they say. Then you left him without back up.

I have to ask, what "Republican Lite" would support Gay marriage? Then support a woman's right to chose and her equal pay? Would they be supporting voting rights? Civil rights? Gun laws? Obamacare? You are lying to yourself and the rest of us by saying this. Shame on you!

It is always so much easier to place the blame elsewhere and never take any responsibility yourself.

Selective memories at times. He never once said Yes I Can. He said Yes WE Can. We, collectively, must stand up and be heard. Everyday we should be fighting tooth and nail for what we believe in.

I for one will not stop until I am 6 feet under.

If your only goal is to get to the top of the page, keep on bashing. It is a proven theory here. I have been told by someone that it works for them, sadly it does.
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You must remember this. Never forget where we were. (Original Post) sheshe2 May 2015 OP
This post speaks for me, my friend. calimary May 2015 #1
Yup........... sheshe2 May 2015 #4
Yes... we can! CherokeeDem May 2015 #2
You had me up until Exilednight May 2015 #3
Really. That is all you got. Lochloosa May 2015 #12
There's a few other things ... Exilednight May 2015 #14
Do you keep an index of the things he did that were good or great along with the list of things Maraya1969 May 2015 #24
I do. I have a copy of his Exilednight May 2015 #32
Try this sheshe2 May 2015 #17
He reversed a restriction law that Reagan signed into law. Here is your link Exilednight May 2015 #18
So check out what you just said Maraya1969 May 2015 #19
See #18 Exilednight May 2015 #21
You really think that is a viable justification for, "He is a better friend to the gun nut Maraya1969 May 2015 #26
As a nation, and a party, we need to be Exilednight May 2015 #29
Can I give you a hug here? sheshe2 May 2015 #45
Thank you sheshe2! Maraya1969 May 2015 #56
The Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights? bobclark86 May 2015 #37
And how exactly did this bill limit Exilednight May 2015 #40
Reason 1,363 I don't come here as often anymore... bobclark86 May 2015 #52
Speaking of being obtuse, from your own link Exilednight May 2015 #53
Yes, because if we can't get EVERYTHING!!!!! bobclark86 May 2015 #54
Yes, because a lap dog with no teeth (much like this bill) is Exilednight May 2015 #55
I'd vote for him again. gwheezie May 2015 #5
I voted for Obama twice and don't regret my votes Terra Alta May 2015 #6
Great post, sheshe. brer cat May 2015 #7
Thanks sheshe! ucrdem May 2015 #8
Hey you... sheshe2 May 2015 #47
That is very true, he always said We, AuntPatsy May 2015 #9
I like President Obama! yallerdawg May 2015 #10
What you just said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 May 2015 #48
Obama did great things and not great things as well. It's a mixed bag. Bonobo May 2015 #11
So sorry that is true for you. sheshe2 May 2015 #22
I could state the many reasons, but did not want to be overly obnoxious in your thread. Bonobo May 2015 #23
What I find sad. Is your statement. sheshe2 May 2015 #30
I am sorry you are so intolerant of my freedom to politely show my disagreement. nt Bonobo May 2015 #31
Do not put words in my mouth. nt sheshe2 May 2015 #33
You said my statement was "sad". Bonobo May 2015 #34
Wait! sheshe2 May 2015 #46
I'm not sure why you think your posts are sacred ground Bonobo May 2015 #51
Barack Obama is... RufusTFirefly May 2015 #28
Thanks for posting. When the Twin Towers was struck, I was in Gulf Shores, Alabama on Thinkingabout May 2015 #13
I'm grateful I was able to marry MaggieD May 2015 #15
+1 Buzz Clik May 2015 #16
The trolls vote up all anti-Obama posts. Will the real Democrats vote this up please? Maraya1969 May 2015 #20
Sheshe speaks for me Hekate May 2015 #25
Michelle Obama at the convention in 2012, on moving forward: lovemydog May 2015 #27
We We We not Me Me Me sheshe2 May 2015 #38
Exactly. We we we. lovemydog May 2015 #39
People forget where we were.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #35
Yeah, and a downward spiraling economy lovemydog May 2015 #41
The economy didn't crash until the last minute.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #42
Yeah, it was an incredible period of history. lovemydog May 2015 #43
Yeah. It was obvious that he was no leader. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #44
Bush paid for it all on a credit card. No limit. sheshe2 May 2015 #50
Thank you for this sheshe. Marie Marie May 2015 #36
A huge hug for you. sheshe2 May 2015 #49

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
3. You had me up until
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:46 PM
May 2015

Gun laws. Seriously, he signed a bill that says it's okay to carry a loaded weapon in federal parks. He's a better friend to gun nuts than most Republicans.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
14. There's a few other things ...
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:30 PM
May 2015

Like keeping the NSA in the business of spying on US citizens, appointing Hillary SoS (since she left his actions have been more in line with his campaign rhetoric) keeping the TPP out of public sight, failing to live up to being the most transparent President and setting a new record on the number of whistleblowers that have been prosecuted.

Would it have been worse under McCain or Romney? Yes. But that's a pretty low bar to hurdle over.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
24. Do you keep an index of the things he did that were good or great along with the list of things
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:58 PM
May 2015

he did that either you do not approve of or he actually failed at?

It might reveal something.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
32. I do. I have a copy of his
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:16 PM
May 2015

Blueprint for change and I do keep track of which campaign promises he kept and those that were outright broken.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
17. Try this
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:39 PM
May 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025077817

Mournful and resigned, Obama concedes US won't act to stop gun violence anytime soon \

He's a better friend to gun nuts than most Republicans.


Will you please back that UP WITH FACTS! Your post hurts it is so untrue. All the babies at Sandy Hook cry for your statement. Pure and simple, so ugly and untrue.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
19. So check out what you just said
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:49 PM
May 2015

"He's a better friend to gun nuts than most Republicans."

That is categorically untrue and a knee jerk reaction reflecting a poor understanding of the guns control battles in the history of this country.

Why do you make statements like that?

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
26. You really think that is a viable justification for, "He is a better friend to the gun nut
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:02 PM
May 2015

Republicans"? Because that is not the only thing you have complained about in this thread that was started by the OP as a tribute to our great president and his great accomplishments.

Why do you feel the need to bring all these negative things up in a thread of support for our president?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
29. As a nation, and a party, we need to be
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:12 PM
May 2015

honest. If we're not honest about our history, then we will never get any true reform that will truly reverse this countries drastic shift to the right.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
37. The Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights?
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:30 PM
May 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_CARD_Act_of_2009

The gun thing was a rider the GOP put in to get votes.

And since there's no line-item veto, that means if we wanted that bill to cut down on the deceiving practices of credit card companies, then it had to be signed.

Oh, and I'm willing to bet more people die from suicide related to debt than from getting shot by someone else in a federal park. So it probably decreased violence.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
52. Reason 1,363 I don't come here as often anymore...
Sun May 10, 2015, 02:52 AM
May 2015

People refusing to read links and being intentionally obtuse:

"Key provisions include: (1) Giving consumers enough time to pay their bills. Credit card companies have to give consumers at least 21 days to pay from the time the bill is mailed. Credit card companies can not "trap" consumers by setting payment deadlines on the weekend or in the middle of the day, or changing their payment deadlines each month.

(2) No retroactive rate increases. Credit card companies must give consumers at least 45 days notice if their rates are about to go up, and can not change any terms of the contract within a year. Low introductory rates must last at least six months.

(3) Easier to pay down debt. Credit card companies must apply payments to a consumer's highest interest rate balances first. Statements must show consumers how long it would take to pay off their existing balance if the consumer made only the minimum payment, and must show the payment amount and total interest cost to pay off the entire balance in 36 months.

(4) Eliminates "fee harvester cards." The act restricts fees on low-balance cards sold to cardholders with bad credit. For many of these cards, the up-front fees charged exceeded the remaining credit.[4] The act also restricts the fees that can be charged for gift cards and other prepaid cards.

(5) Eliminates excessive marketing to young people. Consumers under the age of 21 must prove that they have an independent income or get a co-signer before applying for a credit card. The Act also prevents credit card companies from mailing offers to consumers under 21 unless they "opt in," and prohibits companies from wooing students with T-shirts, free pizza and other free gifts at university-sponsored events.[5]"

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
53. Speaking of being obtuse, from your own link
Sun May 10, 2015, 07:30 AM
May 2015

The Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights includes several provisions aimed at limiting how credit card companies can charge consumers but does not include price controls, rate caps, or fee settings.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
54. Yes, because if we can't get EVERYTHING!!!!!
Sun May 10, 2015, 08:22 AM
May 2015

Then don't bother trying for ANYTHING.

That's the kind of mentality that pushes people away -- and one of the reasons our turnout sucked ass in November.

I'm so sick of the bull around here.

I'm out.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
55. Yes, because a lap dog with no teeth (much like this bill) is
Sun May 10, 2015, 08:34 AM
May 2015

not a watch dog, no matter how loud it barks or growls.

I'd argue that the reason turnout sucked is not because people pointed out shortcomings of such bills, but rather that no real fight was put up by this administration to try and get more from such bills. I would argue that if Obama fought as hard for some legislation as he is the TPP, then people would be more understanding.

You might not like it, but it's a fair criticism.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
5. I'd vote for him again.
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:48 PM
May 2015

I voted for Hillary my 08 primary so while I had no problem voting for Obama I had hoped it would be Hillary. In 12 I voted for Obama because after 4 years I realized the right person was president. I'd vote for him again if he could run.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
6. I voted for Obama twice and don't regret my votes
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:49 PM
May 2015

He has been an amazing President, the best one of my lifetime.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
47. Hey you...
Sun May 10, 2015, 01:41 AM
May 2015

There are things I want to post. Yet it is late and I have to work in a few hours.

Gotta go.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. I like President Obama!
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:02 PM
May 2015

He has been a true blue Democrat!

Is he perfect? Did we get everything we want? I really can't say yet - he's still got another year and a half! He is definitely not fading away!

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
11. Obama did great things and not great things as well. It's a mixed bag.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:06 PM
May 2015

As for me? He disappointed me greatly.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
22. So sorry that is true for you.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:53 PM
May 2015

He has given me and my family and friends more hope and safety than we have had in a long time.

I see a future for my grand nieces and nephews. Solar power, wind farms protecting our so fragile environment.

Sadly he disappoints you for some unstated reason.

For many of us and our sweet future generations, he has given us hope. It is not YES I CAN it is YES WE CAN!!!!

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
23. I could state the many reasons, but did not want to be overly obnoxious in your thread.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:58 PM
May 2015

I am satisfied to point out, calmly, that I do not feel the exuberance that you do about his presidency.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
30. What I find sad. Is your statement.
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:14 PM
May 2015
I could state the many reasons, but did not want to be overly obnoxious in your thread.
I am satisfied to point out, calmly, that I do not feel the exuberance that you do about his presidency.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
34. You said my statement was "sad".
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:21 PM
May 2015

Did I misunderstand something?

If so, I do apologize. It just sounded rather intolerant the way you jumped on me.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
46. Wait!
Sun May 10, 2015, 01:30 AM
May 2015

You pull this shit on every thread I post on women and abuse. Please back of and leave me alone.

I ask you please. Stop it and leave me alone. It is not always about you.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
51. I'm not sure why you think your posts are sacred ground
Sun May 10, 2015, 02:22 AM
May 2015

But I have been more than polite and have every right to express my opinions on a discussion board so do get over yourself, and back off yourself.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
28. Barack Obama is...
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:08 PM
May 2015

Barack Obama is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. Thanks for posting. When the Twin Towers was struck, I was in Gulf Shores, Alabama on
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:19 PM
May 2015

Vacation, When bin Laden was killed I was in Orange Beach, Alabama for wedding and vacation.
Yes I remember, remember reports of President Obama going through a Saturday and staying cool.
I am grateful for the ACA, which allows me to go to different insurances even though I have pre-existing conditions. It also keeps me insured though very soon I will be over the $1 million cap I have been in until ACA. It may not matter to some but it does me. Thanks, President Obama for fighting so very hard.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
15. I'm grateful I was able to marry
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:32 PM
May 2015

After 15 years together and raising a son. I didn't personally need it, but I'm very happy we have the ACA. Those are my two favorite things he helped happen.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
39. Exactly. We we we.
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:41 PM
May 2015

Looking at how far we've come sheshe2. We still have far to go. We always will. We will stand together. When we get out in the world we see people who want a fair shake. We will keep on fighting with them. Together.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
35. People forget where we were....
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:27 PM
May 2015

America was going to war in Iran while McCain and Palin were going to Camp David for a little piece.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
41. Yeah, and a downward spiraling economy
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:56 PM
May 2015

precipitated by reckless investment banking. Massive deficits caused by out of control war spending and cutting of taxes. President Obama took over during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. His Administration's first priority was to stop that crisis. They did. Then to provide assistance to those most in need. They did. Then to wind down the wars. They did. Then to keep the auto industry afloat. They did. Then to get millions more covered by affordable insurance. They did.

All with reckless opposition from every republican and not enough support from conservative or risk-averse democrats. I'm confident that our next democratic president will help in raising wages, lowering health care costs, and building and expanding upon the accomplishments of the Obama Administration.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
42. The economy didn't crash until the last minute....
Sun May 10, 2015, 12:09 AM
May 2015

David Letterman saying, "Yeah, I have a question. Do you need a ride to the airport?" was the end of McCain's campaign.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
43. Yeah, it was an incredible period of history.
Sun May 10, 2015, 12:24 AM
May 2015

I never knew about that Letterman quote.

Also, didn't McCain try and cancel the third debate or something like that?

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
50. Bush paid for it all on a credit card. No limit.
Sun May 10, 2015, 01:49 AM
May 2015

Damn his ass.

I gotta go....work in a few hours.

Love you.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
36. Thank you for this sheshe.
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:28 PM
May 2015

When I find myself feeling disappointment because our President has not accomplished everything that I wanted him to do (as if anyone could ever make me that happy - LOL), I just close my eyes and imagine where we would be if McCain or Romney had won the election. That usually snaps me back in to reality and I can see so clearly that he was and is the right man at the right time for us.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
49. A huge hug for you.
Sun May 10, 2015, 01:45 AM
May 2015
. That usually snaps me back in to reality and I can see so clearly that he was and is the right man at the right time for us.


Yes we can~
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