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Statues of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning unveiled in Berlin
Bronze statues of persecuted whistleblowers Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning were unveiled in Berlin on May Day. The statues are part of an art project entitled Anything to Say?, the work of Italian artist Davide Dormino, which pays tribute to the courage of the three.
The life-size effigies of the trio stand in a row on chairs beside one extra empty chair. The extra chair invites passersby to express their solidarity with the three whistleblowers and share their own views publicly.
In an online statement, Dormino says: History never had a positive opinion of contemporary revolutionaries. You need courage to act, to stand up on that empty chair even if it hurts.
Hundreds of people gathered in Berlins Alexanderplatz on Friday, with many adults and also children mounting the chair to air their views to the assembled crowd.
Davide Dormino and his sculptures
The WSWS spoke with Dormino, an artist who also teaches sculpture and drawing at the Rome University of Fine Arts (Libera Accademia di Belle Arti di Roma).
Stefan Steinberg: What was your motivation for this project?
Davide Dormino: I was speaking to my friend, the American author and journalist, Charles Glass, about courage and the importance of adopting a critical attitude toward authority, and gradually the concept for the project emerged.
This has been an element in my art work for many years, in fact, from the very beginning. I am a firm advocate of public art. I believe that such art is a great chance to speak to a broad audience, and I believe art is a great opportunity to help people to mature and develop their ideas.
I came up with the idea of three figures standing on chairs. Why the chairs? The chair has a double meaning. It can be something comfortable, but we can also use it to elevate ourselves and gain a new perspective. The idea was to represent three icons of our contemporary world, three men who defied the system. They chose the chair of courage
but the empty chair is the most important part of the sculpture. It is an opportunity for us to stand up, to get a better view and share their courageous stance.
Perhaps you may remember the scene in the film, Dead Poets Society [1989], where the pupils stand on the tables as an example of courage and the rejection of blind authorityI think we need such courage today.
There was an amazing reaction in Berlin at Alexanderplatz. Everybody felt that it was an all-inclusive moment. Some people stood on chairs and expressed their support for the whistleblowers, some said nothing. It was very important.
More At.........
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/05/07/davi-m07.html
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Takes great courage...
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)Just as it was Cassius Clay that won the gold medal in the Olympics...history is not revisable.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)K&R.
Love this!
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)They mad
morningfog
(18,115 posts)that it will bring when the gnashing of teeth and handwringing on DU follows.
polichick
(37,152 posts)You need courage to act, to stand up on that empty chair even if it hurts.
So true!
George II
(67,782 posts)Hoppy
(3,595 posts)Betrayus exposed state secrets for a blow job.
Betrayus gets a pension.
Manning gets what, 30 years?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)reaction of the authorities in Germany to this, and what happened here. When a statue of Snowden appeared in public here, it was quickly removed by the 'authorities'. Land of the FREE!!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)jmowreader
(50,555 posts)Someone put a statue of him in Union Square and it was allowed to stay...for a while at least.
http://www.businessinsider.com/there-is-an-edward-snowden-statue-in-union-square-and-no-one-could-recognize-him-2014-10
The one you're referring to was glued to another monument.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)We know what happens to peaceful demonstrators in this country. So spare me the excuses. I am aware that all countries go through periods such as the one we are going through right now, but the fact is we are not a free country right now.
The Government is spying on every single citizen. We have the largest prison population EVER in the history of the world, and larger than all the countries combined per capita.
You can't fix a problem until you realze you have a problem. I prefer to identify the problem then go about fixing it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)fake statues. I wonder if any of the Oligarch-Media will carry the story.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)would have a problem with some of most liberal thinkers actually having a voice on TV. Ever see Thom Hartmann on the Corporate Media? Amy Goodman? I want to hear those voices so I have to go to RT to hear them.
Not in the least bit intimidated by the 'commie' garbage, fought THAT battle with Bush supporters for years, long before there was an RT.
Some people are just stuck in the past, what I can I say.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)shunning those media that are not corrupted by our Corporations. Every time one of THEM criticizes RT as a source, I ask them which media outlet they prefer. They never answer. THEY are good at criticizing but short on conviction themselves.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)so revealing. RT is a liberal media, and it's great to see so many young female journalists who are free to question politicians the way journalists are supposed to do.
I know this, if RT had been around during the Bush years, it would have been the most popular media to the very same people. Al Jazeera was treated the same way by 'conservatives', and loved by Liberals. Too bad people are so affected by their biases. Something those in power count on.
I have been reading lately however, that partisanship is losing its appeal the more people are affected by the policies that both parties are responsible for. Most American voters now register as Independents.
tblue37
(65,334 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the rule of law, there will be statues of Whistle Blowers from this dark period in our history, in public places as a tribute to those who stood up against those who tried to take away our rights and freedoms.
All countries have gone through these very dark periods, and this is a young country, and often have emerged as truly civilized, democratic nations.
The sooner the better, but it may not happen anytime soon, unless we have more Edward Snowdens and Chelsea Mannings. And publishers like Assange who are unafraid to give Whistle Blowers a place to reveal their information when they cannot trust their own media or their government anymore.
the fourth chair has me speechless. It looks like people all over the world are ready for a change. (and is sick of the US)
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)the artist, a passerby, an activist...
It's actually a pretty powerful piece of art.
(Guaranteed to make heads explode amongst those who hate whistleblowers!)
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Inviting people to stand up and speak, that is pretty huge. Inviting people to listen. That is definitely what I would call ART in capital letters. I agree it would have been nice to show Chelsea Manning as she prefers to be known now. I hope he thinks about it and perhaps updates it. But just wow.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)You know they will...
KoKo
(84,711 posts)But, the U.S. tourists visiting...probably..
bvar22
(39,909 posts)d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)since it ruins their fairy tale of keeping us safe from the big bad terrorist (that we are creating).
Divernan
(15,480 posts)- which is why Hitler hated it and had plans to rebuild it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welthauptstadt Germania. This sculpture is a perfect example of public art, or what public art should be. It invites people to take part in the discussion about freedom of speech and the incredible courage of these three men in exposing the lies and crimes of governments.
I highly recommend starting out a visit to Berlin with taking one of the boat/canal tours of the city - Berlin has such a rich and dramatic history - the tour takes you through modern and old parts of the area - orients you to the geography and throws in lots of history. My daughters stayed in Berlin to see some World Cup games, and the canal boat tour was their number one tour recommendation. My concierge provided me with directions to a boarding spot just a few blocks from my hotel. My tour had an English language tape, which was invaluable. I was particularly moved and got a chill down my spine when the canal boat passed under one of the bridges on the Landwehr Canal and the tape noted that this was the bridge from which Rosa Luxemburg's body was thrown by the Freikorps (who eventually became the Brown Shirts) after they shot her on January 15, 1919. She was an extremely courageous woman & leading labor union organizer. She is revered in Berlin - one of the stops on the U-Bahn is "Bahnhof Rosa-Luxemburg-Platz."
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I thought check point Charlie was interesting in the middle of the intersection. And the gate is beautiful.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Anyhow . . . that's awkward.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Either the funder or the artist are likely homophobes.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Bradley did the act. Chelsea didn't. Why are you changing history?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It's disrespectful of her rights as a human being to ignore that.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Be called Chelsea? I don't think they are quick to be made. I suppose the United States could pay the artist to change it and maybe we will.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)as Bradley. That is a pretty clear tell.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)when some of her supporters started calling her Brianna, a name that she had used privately, she asked her supporters to cease and continue to refer to her by Bradley.
There was much discussion around this issue by her supporters to change the name of BradleyManning.org to BriannaManning.org
Ultimately, a consensus was reached to honor her wishes.
Following Chelsea's announcement of her name change, BradleyManning.org switched to ChelseaManning.org which now features a photo of the sculpure on their web page.
http://www.chelseamanning.org/press/manning-assange-snowden-statue-unveiled-in-berlin
bvar22
(39,909 posts)You know absolutely NOTHING about the artist or funders.
Your knee jerk statement calling the funder or artist "homophobes"
says way more about you than it does about the artists or funders.
If I had had the opportunity to donate or help this project in ANY way, I would have.
and I do not fit the stereotype of your demons.
Remember when John Kerry was "swiftboated" by made up accusations?
Well, better take a look in a mirror.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Chelsea got thrown under the bus on this one.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)political ends.
back at you
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Nice try. Better luck next time.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)political opponents. I can only assume you would do so.
I disagree with Manning's release of information. I would fight for her in any attempt to gain equality for who she is.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)calling her Brianna (a name that she used privately) from calling her that during her incarceration and trial.
The gender status and name depicts her preference at the time.
I've no problem with stating Bradley Manning, hero, now incarcerated Chelsea Manning, hero.
When Bruce Jenner reveals his name (yes, he has stated that he prefers he/him even though he will oft times use a female pronoun in interviews) which he says he will do, should reporters refer to Bruce as a woman when reporting on his Olympic triumphs competing as a man?
No they should not. Bruce, when he won his metals publicly identified as a man. Manning when, when she leaked, publicly identified as a man.
Bradley Manning leaked. Chelsea Manning is in prison.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)days. The artist is obviously very impressed with what Manning did.
But at the same time the artist is too bigoted to accept her for who she is.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)thing to do these days.
RT hosts very much recognize Chelsea Manning and her rights, which our Corporate media, now that you mentioned it, don't seem to do.
Chelsea wasn't throw in jail in Russia for exposing War Crimes, that happened right here in the good old USA. For 35 years. And not once have I seen any of our Media personnel even question that brutal, travesty of justice. And she was tortured, not in Russia, but in the custody of the US Government which used their knowledge of her concerns about her sexuality and being naked, in order to torture her.
Considering that travesty of justice, and the fact that the War Criminals she exposed are treated here like elder statesmen by our OWN media, your comment is kind of sad and if you want to know why, I'd be happy to explain.
Sometimes when your own house needs cleaning, it's best not to point fingers elsewhere because it's a given someone is going to talk about that dirty house.
'People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones' old, but still very wise advice.
JI7
(89,247 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)and I wouldn't try to feed them, they will dive-bomb you with very sharp beaks.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)It looks like something that someone from Fux "News" would post.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)But apparently ad-hominem is all you've got.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)You have no idea who he is or what he believes. But you're accusing ME of ad hominem attacks? That's rich.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And you're instead looking petty and foolish. You do realize that the artist is from Italy and that the interview you are reading is just a small part of what he said. Europe, you may be surprised to learn, is also much more progressive when it comes to LGBT rights, so I doubt he is a homophobe by default. But more importantly, the artist has chosen a moment when each person is standing up against being accused. It is artistic license in this case and is showing that Ms. Manning stood up to the powers while in uniform. I highly doubt that she would have any problem whatsoever to this stunning tribute.
But the bigger issue is you think she should be in jail for exposing state secrets and that Obama had every right to say she was guilty. I think she should be free; I think she's a hero. I bet she would be happy to be free rather than know you defended her right to the correct pronoun.
DD: They are heroes because they show us how much control governments have over us. We have to understand the difference between control and privacy. Privacy is sacrosanct. It is a basic human right. With the new technology it is easier for the government to control us. That is not democracy, in my opinion, but it is also important to know why and how they control us.
We need to have the courage to know the truth. Sometimes people dont understand and they say, It doesnt matter if they know everything about me. This is very wrong.
SS: In the past your work has taken a more abstract form, this time you have chosen a very direct, realistic form.
DD: I deliberately chose to model them in a realistic fashionan ancient form of representation. The message has to be clear. People have to be able to immediately recognize them.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)to be about that.
If the artist isn't a homophobe, he needs to apologize and clarify and start referring to Manning as Chelsea.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You can't even handle this milquetoast joke about your heroes.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Except for a few scientists (and then again I don't idolize them) I stopped having "heroes" in my late teens.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Here's another hug:
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)That's a positive attitude.
polly7
(20,582 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)that you apparently also don't mind getting shit on? He must have done something very anti-authoritarian to draw your ire
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)for these guys. That doesn't sound so anti-authoritarian to me.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Do you need a hug?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I can't think of any person's statue I would react to someone implying they would get pigeons to poop on like you have here.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)There, there...
FrankUnderwood
(11 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)Excellent news! Thanks, KoKo
navarth
(5,927 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Another name for this display could be "A Trio of Truth Seekers."
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)I don't feel the need to genuflect to the images of people who are still alive and kicking. If I ever feel the need to, I can apparently visit the bust of Rush Limbaugh in the Missouri State House...
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)and Manning punched a female co-worker in the face ( when in the Army)
bvar22
(39,909 posts)NO.
That makes your post a total Strawman.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)And authority is everything.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)which one is Comrade Snowden?
treestar
(82,383 posts)What's with this statue thing. That is not going to make them like George Washington.
The only meaningful statue is one put up by agreement of society. You can't force that on people by making the statue first.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Looks like...victory!
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Renew Deal
(81,855 posts)hueymahl
(2,495 posts)malaise
(268,931 posts)Rec
niyad
(113,262 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)nt