Facts vs. Fiction: Assange Never Raped Anyone

[laserhaas]

As a victim of sexual abuse when young, where no one would listen to me and those I trusted with the details called me "punk" (in the most demeaning way) I'm well versed on the side of the vex upon victims. One can even argue that it's worse for a boy to talk about being raped - than it is for a girl by a guy.

Too often, unrequited sexual abuse sagas leads to cases of suicide (see Tree Climbers - here).

That being said, nothing gets in the craw of victims of sexual abuse, more than someone making up fabrications of being abused, in order to gain some selfish advantage. Where there are cases of people making up crap against rich guys, just to get over. Or a team of players at a school. And the girl who stayed out all night long and blamed her bo (who didn't satisfy her) or someone not even involved, so she wouldn't be punished.

All falsehoods make it harder for REAL victims to achieve justice and closure!

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IF You really want to see the facts in print and such compared to the propaganda, then the best place is the website "EXTRADITING ASSANGE".

This particular website can be labeled bias, if you so choose to say, as it details the falsities by David Allen Green and the political prosecution of Julian Assange - in Detail.

At the very bottom of the Justice for Julian Assange - EXTRADITING web page (lengthy) - it has a fact by fiction comparison that should put to rest all the manure out there.

That is, of course, unless you're hell bent to condemn a man!

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The 2 Swedish Girls in Question[/font]
-[font size=6 color=burnt] NEVER[/font] -
[font size=6 color=navy]accused Julian Assange of Rape
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That's right, ladies and gentlemen, most of U.S. (and the world actually) are being duped by main stream (lame) media; chiefly propagandized by David Allen Green. For it is a fact that this whole case was started, when one of the girls went to the police and asked if she could compel Julian Assange to give a blood test (to check for STD's).

You can, if you care about the facts, even if you, arguendo, ignore the glaring Rove issues and that the U.S. Government is after Julian Assange in connection with Private Manning (or have you totally bought into the B.S. that big gov doesn't desire to nail Assange - being totally obtuse to what has happened to Manning) - simply look at the Swedish public records (that our main stream never reports).

PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT;

The original prosecutor closed the Julian Assange case and a politico (Claes Borgström) and others took the case away from the original prosecutor and launched a campaign to "Q U E S T I O N" Julian Assange.

That's right, this whole case is about "questioning" - Assange is NOT charged any crime!

Asked on various occasions how an investigation could be restarted even though the complainants did not allege rape, Claes Borgström stated that neither woman is a lawyer, therefore neither woman can tell whether she was raped or not.

REALLY!

I don't know about you - but I sure as hell know when I've been violated!

Here's the verbatim from (this) Swedish source;

Interviewer: But [the complainant] did not at first say that she had been raped.

Borgström: Yes, but she is not a lawyer.

Despite Assange's efforts to comply with the inquiry, the prosecutor delayed the progression of the investigation. Then many strange things began to occur, including the stealing of Julian Assange's personal computers = AFTER = Sweden granted Assange permission to leave the country.

THAT's RIGHT - Julian didn't RUN away - he was granted permission!

Then - this event took place;

Assange's discussion on the phone (which happened in my presence): "They could not do this before? I have been in Sweden for six weeks. " In the journey to Berlin, Assange took four computers and his own personal baggage. The baggage and three of his computers disappeared, although his was a direct flight. Assange arrived to meet with Espresso in Berlin in the late evening (around 11 pm) without luggage, and with only one computer: a laptop which he never parts from and which travels with him on his shoulders. The episode made Assange suspicious. The three computers were never recovered. Twenty days after these events, WikiLeaks released documents on the war in Iraq (Iraq War Logs). Meanwhile, the Swedish case went on.

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About Wikileaks purportedly exposing the girls

EEEEAAANNNNTTTT! - Buzz a big NO on that one too....

On the 23rd of August, at 16:40, the police released the casefile for AA's report under Freedom of Information on the Assange case. AA's name was supposed to be redacted throughout the document, and it was, throughout the body of the document. But the police failed to redact her name from the title of the document. The police are therefore the sole and effective reason that AA's privacy as an alleged victim was breached, and that her identity is known publicly.

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AA gave an interview to the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, in which she stated that Assange is not violent, and that neither she nor SW are afraid of him. She gave this interview anonymously, and yet, when the interview was reproduced in The New York Times her full name was given out. The New York Times is therefore the effective reason that AA's name became known all over the world. From Aftonbladet:

It is completely false that we are afraid of Assange and therefore didn’t want to file a complaint. He is not violent and I do not feel threatened by him.

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[center][font size=6 color=burnt]SUMMING IT ALL UP[/font][/center]

We know our country went to war in Iraq based upon GWB's Administration lying out their butts - massively. We also know that the tapes given out by Private Manning, through Julian Assange's Wikileaks organization, deeply embarrassed the American warring machine - Greatly!

To say that big gov and the corporate military industrial complex doesn't have an axe to grind against Julian Assange - is just plain Bull C H I T!

Of the 2 Swedish girls in question, Julian Assange was never accused of rape. One girl went to the police to ask for a blood test issue and they went "AH HAH - we got him"!

Since then, there has been mass millions of dollars (over 3 million alone, for British police to surround the Embassy) to go after Julian Assange and Wikileaks; because bad faith acts do not like being exposed...

especially by an outsider!

Here's a link with the vast, Chronological details of the Julian Assange case. Including the issues of what he reported with Wikileaks hacking and how the rape case has been a fabrication from the start.

[center] Justice for Julian Assange [/center]

If you care about the facts and justice, you will see that this website has links upon links backing up each and every remark. This case is a fabrication by the powers that be - who are going after the person - who points out they are "corrupt" powers that be.

It is easy to get the world all in a tizzy - as is remarked/noted by the facts - that;

But the original privacy blunder by the police had happened much earlier: a matter of hours after the women visited the police on the 20th of August. Within two hours of the issuance of the arrest warrant, a reporter at the tabloid Expressen had been tipped off by SMS. The duty prosecutor, Maria Kjellstrand, was called, who illegally confirmed that there was an arrest warrant out for Julian Assange. Expressen then ran the story, and Kjellstrand was quoted in it. Within a matter of hours, the news had travelled around the world, was reported by every major English-language news outlet, and had associated Julian Assange's name with the word "rape" in over 3 million Google search results.

The arrest warrant had been issued by Kjellstrand during the interview with SW. The Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne was on holiday at the time. When she read SW's interview the next day, she canceled the arrest warrant, saying "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape." It has been reported by Aftonbladet that, internally, Finne has been extremely critical of the police conduct in the issuance of the warrant.

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[center][font size=5 color=navy]YOKO ONO AWARD to Julian Assange in 2013[/font][/center]
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Nothing tells the tale better than Yoko Ono's granting Julian Assange (poetically apropos - in absentia) 'The Courage Award'. These pictures are from Yoko Ono's tribute website to her husband John Lennon - titled

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The 2 girls are a victim, of being caught up in the wheels of injustice that thrust them into a losing position. No matter how this case turns out, they will always have to hide from the public's scrutiny.

And that's a Dam Shame!

Believe what you want to believe. As for me, being a real victim of sexual abuse who fights such and other bad faith acts (including big gov and Mitt Romney), I know how justice REALLY works in this country...

I'm just sayin....

--------and sayin.......

------------------------ And Sayin.................

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	Karl Rove is helping a veiled agenda
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	The girls never, originally, accused Assange of Rape
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	Julian is going to be prosecuted by the U.S. - one day
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	England is on the fix of this case
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	It's all political
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	Girls are rape victims
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	Laser is an arsehole
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[hack89]

1. Lets look at what the women actually told the police as seen in Assange's arrest warrant

This is what Assange is accused of.

1. Unlawful coercion

On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm. Assange, by using violence. forced the injured party to endure his restricting her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party's arms and a forceful spreading of her legs whilst lying on top of her and with his body weight preventing her from moving or shifting.

2. Sexual molestation

On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her without her knowledge.

3. Sexual molestation

On 18 August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that date, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity i.e. lying next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.

4. Rape

On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep. was in a helpless state.

It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange. who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used. still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party's sexual integrity."

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2011/2849.html

Until the women specifically retract their statements (which they haven't - they still want their day in court) I am going to believe the victims.

[laserhaas]

2. The women's statements are bogus in your hateful campaign warrant

Facts speak for themselves.

They NEVER went to the police claiming rape. But that doesn't matter to you. For the goal is to condemn a person, regardless of the truth.

Mob - hateful - mentality, doesn't change the FACTS!

[hack89]

3. So the events detailed in the warrant never happened?

is that what you are saying?

[seabeyond]

4. simple question. are these girls, or women? thru out your OP you say girls. there is a difference

[mythology]

5. Um no

Being told that a specific condition was required required for sex, ignoring said condition and proceeding when you know consent has not only not been given, but was in in fact expressly denied,means there's enough enough to enough to be investigated for rape.

Also the fact that the website is relying on the fact that Assange hasn't been charged when that is a difference in the American and Swedish system makes me disbelieve what they have to say.

[tammywammy]

7. And having sex with an unconscious person is rape. n/t

[seabeyond]

22. and holding her arms down, as she tries to reach for a condom, as he is finishing up. what a man. nt

[tammywammy]

43. Yep

But, ya know it's Assange so it's okay. Apparently.

[Maedhros]

6. You are missing the most important fact of all: none of this is relevant to Wikileaks,

or the value of the information leaked.

At present Assange is wanted for questioning. If charges are brought against him, he will have his day in court. However this entire issue is a side show meant to get us arguing about Assange instead of paying attention to what Wikileaks revealed.

[Scuba]

9. Eggzaklee!

[laserhaas]

18. Oh contraire - Wikileaks is toast if Julian is made a ghost

Or do you think the U.S. will just put him in club fed - when they "get" him?

The side show is that the girls/ ladies/ women -etc., never alleged a rape. The girl was upset about possible disease and/or pregnancy from a perceived broken condemn.

We can take the remarks from the report linked above - omit words - and Viola.. a Crime. Such as the excerpt from the "AA" remark (just above my "Summing it all up&quot .

It states;

It is completely false that we are afraid of Assange and therefore didn’t want to file a complaint. He is not violent and I do not feel threatened by him.

Just do this

:It is completely false that we - - want to file a complaint"

The whole thing makes me sick......

[seabeyond]

20. "girls/ ladies/ women" really? now that you are aware, your need is to "girls/ ladies/ women" this?

you cant just be respectful enough to use the term .... woman

you are so confused, or dismissive you need "girls/ ladies/ women"

that right there says a hell of a lot about your position

[gollygee]

23. You missed "etc."

I wonder what other options "etc." accounts for.

[seabeyond]

26. ya. just a fuckin "ect..." cause the BOY is all that. nt

[REP]

91. Viola?

This is a viola:



What does it have to with anything?

Did you mean et voilà?

[laserhaas]

95. HEY... your thingy has as much to do with this thread

as the rest of the disingenuous banter running amok here.

Just did a jury service on crap that the complaint said they "thought" the person meant


with one word....


Whole world has gone nuts....

[REP]

96. Just imagining anyone seriously proclaiming "Viola!"

Is as hilarious as the rest of your thread.

Or seeing et voilà written out as "wallah!"

[NuclearDem]

8. If Assange gets arrested, Wikileaks gets shutdown.

Because that's totally how the internet works, you guys.

[NCTraveler]

11. +1 nt.

[SidDithers]

10. Wow, what a pantload...nt

Sid

[REP]

92. Viola!

[stevenleser]

12. You're legal positions in general are not, they're not... good

[geek tragedy]

13. I'll wait for the trial, but despise those who smear the alleged victims or try

to justify the conduct alleged.

[laserhaas]

14. There you go- putting words in my mouth.

There's NO smear here

and NO attempt to justify "alleged" actions.

[geek tragedy]

16. The comment was not directed at you, or anyone in particular nt

[laserhaas]

19. It seems to me (and probably everyone else) that it was directed at this thread

It's okay - I'm pissy right now.....

This whole crap (and the fact that our Government plays games with peoples lives)

gets in my craw....

[sufrommich]

15. This OP is insulting enough without referrring to grown women

as girls.

[seabeyond]

17. repeatedly. constantly. consistently. when did the OP call assange a boy? nt

[sufrommich]

21. I don't get how anyone confuses girls with women.

Unless it's in a Mad Men script.

[seabeyond]

24. no confusion as in awareness he now uses "girls/ ladies/ women" then next sentence uses girl

again

he know damn well what he is doing.

but wtf? he is in a "pissy" mood. so back the fuck up....

[laserhaas]

29. wow - the whole world has gone hate bonkers

Don't you say "a night out with the girls"?

The hate meter is gone off the charts here.

Google of girls says "young woman" as one of the definitions.

When I say ladies or woman - I get slammed for implying old


SHEESSSHHH!

[seabeyond]

30. and here comes the excuses.

[sufrommich]

31. Nobody thinks referring to women as women is implying that

they're old. It's actually implying that they're not children.

[laserhaas]

34. BULL C H I T....

I've gotten the argument all the time.

Don't call me ma'am

DONT open/hold the door for me.

It is illegal to be a nice/respecting guy - you CAN"T win - when everyone wants to HATE

[gollygee]

36. Nobody has ever said that calling a woman a woman means you're saying she's old

You gave examples of other things. The term for an adult woman is "woman." Not Girl. You didn't think they were children or you would have known it was rape no matter the specifics.

[seabeyond]

37. now, you really let us know what you think. ya. we figured. and lookie. we were right.

[sufrommich]

38. None of that has anything to do with correctly

labeling adults as adults.

[NuclearDem]

42. Well, that was revealing.

[tammywammy]

45. Yep.

Doors. LOL

[SidDithers]

48. And now the truth is revealed...nt

Sid

[LanternWaste]

57. It's quite possible that your priority of maintaining the pretense that you're winning...

"you CAN"T win - when everyone wants to HATE..."

It's quite possible that your priority of maintaining the pretense that you're winning an argument has outpaced your desire to simply be accurate... You illustrate that bias quite well in labeling opinions different than yours as "hate."

[laserhaas]

62. Fine LaternWaste (an apropos name for this thread - btw) -

let's give you the winning coin and say your correct (in some fashion).

Other than pointing out that I hate government schemes to benefit bad faith agendas

where can you point to my hating anyone here?

Pissed at the baiting/ hating - fer sure....

but where am I attacking someone's "intent" of meaning?

And what would you call the turning the whole thread into "girls" is this or that

thingy?

[Cali_Democrat]

64. "It is illegal to be a nice/respecting guy"

[REP]

93. Oh no. A Nice Guy™

You do understand the difference between "woman" and "ma'am," Mr Nice Guy™?

Viola!

[laserhaas]

25. Picky is as picky does.

I'm the boy referred to and meant no disparage of the ladies/ girls/ women
(as I've just learned their actual age re-reading the details).

It is just that everyone is rushing to judgment;
and ignoring that J.A. has been activist since WANK days.

Only people who have seen the perversions of our justice system (such as I've endured for a decade plus) can understand how bad this crap really is.

One day, Romney and his 800 stations are going to call me names too!

[seabeyond]

27. you mean, there was actually the consideration it might be a child? and you are just now getting

to that relevant fact?

[tammywammy]

41. You "just learned their actual age"? Did you think the women were children before now?

[laserhaas]

50. Being a POS in putting words in another's mouth, because your argument fails

Is what my avatar is all about

[tammywammy]

56. I asked a question, I didn't put words in your mouth.

You consistently refer to the women as "girls". You're somehow justifying that by saying you "just learned their actual age". Did you think they were under 18?

[laserhaas]

69. No one ever said they were under 18 - and I did NOT mean to disparage

in the utilization of girls.

You are the one's making something unintended - into a mountain volcano

Girls/Boys - men/women - the dictionary says;

girl
ɡərl/
noun
1.
a female child.
synonyms: female child, daughter; More
a person's daughter, especially a young one.
"he was devoted to his little girl"
synonyms: female child, daughter; More
2.
a young or relatively young woman.
synonyms: young woman, young lady, miss, mademoiselle; More

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Or is it just you - trying to imply they aren't "young" women

but old!

[tammywammy]

70. You should stick with your Romney shtick. n/t

[laserhaas]

72. You should just leave me threads alone

As for you "schtick"

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[tammywammy]

78. If you don't like my posts, the DU Admins have provided an ignore feature.

I will continue to reply to any thread or post that I want to.

[laserhaas]

71. Used as a phrase of

girl - definition of girl by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/girl
a. A woman socializing with a group of women: a night out with the. girls.

b. Used as a familiar form of address to express support of or camaraderie with a ..

[tammywammy]

74. ...

[Marr]

28. It's so strange how people who make the establishment uncomfortable are all so evil and creepy...

And we learn so very much about them, so quickly! Some have boxes in their garage, some are sexual perverts... but they're all just awful, yucky people you should never ever ever listen to!

[laserhaas]

32. Fret not, they'll all have more of same, when Romney gets heated

As he soon will be.

Then there is going to be much name calling of yours truly;
and all the haters here will agree with dear ole big gov and Mitt Pitts

that people such as I and Yoko don't matter - cause we just love phile's and ist's

What a bunch of Bull that only a few care to see what is really going on.

[seabeyond]

35. so, if we actually want the police to do their job, investigating rape, we are haters?

[laserhaas]

46. This is all B.S. and you know it. FACT the prosecutor CLOSED the case.

And many in the Swedish government says this pandering to American powers is an embarrassment to their country.

A POLITICO re-opened it a month before the election.

Give this crap of making stuff up - a BREAK...

Of course I want cops to do their job - all the back to 50 years ago when my ass and lips were abused. I was so naive that when my mom went to spank me and I asked her why...

it seemed to me I was accused of offering a nickel to have a kid kiss my belly button

When I told the "Goodings" about that (ain't that name irony for ya) - that's when they showed me what it REALLY meant.

And no one can tell people that you were punked by church going Goodings.

So YES, if it has any chance of being rape - than let the party go through the ringer.

BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAS OCCURRED HERE!

The original rush by the police to seek glory at witch hunting (which is what many of you are doing here right now) - was tossed out by the head prosecutor - at that time!

Then politicians got involved in a world wide Google smear

[seabeyond]

51. "and you know it." i disagree. that makes me a hater? no one allowed to disagree with you?

he is weaseling out of a rape charge. lots of people are making excuses.

go to court.

[laserhaas]

75. He's not weaseling out of any charge.

Have the U.S. give an international statement they won't arrest or seek extradition

and he'd be in court tomorrow.

You putting words in my mouth and accusing me of being a rapist sympathizer is what makes you a hater. Argue on points of fact, instead of fiction and name calling.

and you'll get respect - in kind.

[seabeyond]

76. yes. he is. he hides in another country, in another embassy, to avoid court. yes. he is.

that is fact. no weaseling around that fact. he can demand what he wants. doesnt matter. he was charged, and refuses to follow court mandate.

fact

weaseling out of rape charges, and those supporting him. that would be you....

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

33. I don't think diaries on Assange ever change any minds at this point.

People who are 'certain' they know one way or another aren't going to be swayed, and most of the rest of us simply are going to wait and see what a court says, since we weren't there, and don't know what actually happened, just what various people say happened.

[laserhaas]

39. I wonder how many here, would bare up under scrutiny for their sexual times

On your books,

---------------- your fantasies

----------------------the bad jokes

The girls never said anything about rape - and the prosecutor closed the case. A frggn politico (Rove pal) and former prosecutor who yanked 2 of his own countrymen to Egypt to be tortured - are involved here.

Do you really think Yoko Ono would give a rapist a reward?

REALLY!

[seabeyond]

40. but hold to "girls" at all cost as you repeatedly say you are being picked on. lordy....

[laserhaas]

49. For you to condemn, on the use of the word girls

is exactly - what?

P O S

[tammywammy]

52. Calling women "girls" is demeaning.

It's not a hard concept.

[seabeyond]

54. what is your insistence on infantile'ing these women?

[laserhaas]

58. No one is insisting on anything - you and your mob are trying to bait

though my blood is boiling - the bull crap won't work

I have great sympathy for what the parties are going through and won't be bullied into a corner by the fact you have a group of haters who are hell bent to destroy the facts.

The original prosecutor ended the case and a political one made the story into a monster for personal gain. This gives the parties NO choice but to go along and seek benefit

for their futures are destroyed - No matter how this comes out

and you don't seem to give a flying frk about such - as long as you can bait/ hate

[seabeyond]

61. da doors!!! ya. i hear ya.

[tammywammy]

63. .....

a group of haters who are hell bent to destroy the facts.

[NuclearDem]

47. dafuq

[backscatter712]

44. Didn't you know, if you challenge the state-sponsored narrative in this case,

...that means you're obviously a rape-apologizing scumbag that hates all women.



The case against Julian Assange has been a crock of shit from the beginning.

[laserhaas]

53. Watch out - they'll burn me at the stake

And use you as the fuel

[NaturalHigh]

55. Other - I have no idea.

It does seem convenient, though, that right after the Collateral Murder video on Wikileaks became a media circus Assange was all of a sudden charged with sexual assault.

[gollygee]

59. It could be convenient and still true

It's possible that someone found out he raped these two women and took advantage of that and are using it as a way to get to him.

I wonder about this because rape isn't always taken this seriously by authorities.

[NaturalHigh]

65. It could definitely be true.

That's why I said I had no idea.

[laserhaas]

66. You both make valid points. It is glaring this came when Wikileaks LEAKED

and it is also "possible" that they are using a "real skeleton in the closet"

But the evidence doesn't bode that way;
because the original prosecutor dropped the case.

And a politico (Rover) made it into international news
(which goes right back to the fact that Wiki LEAKED)

I'm more pissed that Brady gets game suspended;
and the abuser with evidence galore - gets what!

[tammywammy]

68. Or coincidental

The women were Wikikeaks supporters.

Assange did something many find admirable, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have committed these acts as well.

[NaturalHigh]

87. I agree that's a possibility.

[hack89]

60. Assange left Sweden the day before his scheduled interview with the prosecutor

His lawyer testified under oath in a British court that Nye had contacted him to schedule an interview with Assange, who was still in Sweden. He admitted to a dialog with Nye to schedule the meeting.

Have you ever considered fact checking your screeds before posting?

[Dr. Strange]

67. Well, at least you got one rec.

Oh.

[laserhaas]

77. Ha ha - I rec'd it myself (always promote via the 4 options)

I put this thread up - knowing I'd get lambasted - responding to the Hack and others B.S. in the LBN thread on the Swede high court decision.

Justice is an ideal - not often allowed to become the reality.

[seabeyond]

79. as rape victims know all TOO well.

[NCTraveler]

73. The rec confirmed my vote!!!!! lol. nt.

[ismnotwasm]

80. "Girls"???

Ugh

I've already researched this. Assange is a pig.

[tammywammy]

82. Yeah, but calling women "women" means you're calling them old or something.

[ismnotwasm]

88. Bahhahahahahaha!!!

Got it.

[Codeine]

89. Illegal to be a nice guy.

OP is a fucking loon and now he sounds like a MRA advocate.

[tammywammy]

94. Yeah

Before I thought he was a silly nut, now he just comes across as super jerk, which is the nicest way possible way to say what I really think of him.

I guess since his Romney/Bain lawsuits went predictably no where, he can expand his repertoire into a rape apologist and a Mr. Nice Guy.

[laserhaas]

81. The POLL is telltale (as usual) of a divided DU realm

It is a shame that true progressiveness (that of common sense when big gov gets over board) - is not the order of the day.

Have to go to hospital - friend in ICU - will get back here later on.

.....

[tammywammy]

83. Or you know, it's a bullshit unscientific poll.

[seabeyond]

84. cause it is so progressive to run from rape charges.

[NuclearDem]

85. Whatever you say.

[Codeine]

90. Or maybe it's just shit.

Shit from a deluded man with delusions of grandeur.

[Beacool]

86. I have no idea if he raped anybody.

But, he should go back to Sweden and face the authorities like a man. If the women did not accuse him of rape, then what does he have to fear? The US has said that they did not ask for extradition.

[SidDithers]

97. Kick...

for shits and giggles.



Sid

[seabeyond]

98. ya

that