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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:17 PM May 2015

TPA Minutia: Corporations want to preserve a loophole that allows them to use child labor

this is just one tiny example of the pernicious crap that can slide through in a trade deal- and not just the tpp. There are something like 17 agreements in the USTR pipeline. The TPA governs many aspects of any future trade deal. It's not just some simple legislation that dictates a straight up or down vote on trade agreements. And the tpa, if passed, lasts for 6 years.

<snip>

More to the point, Republicans say, a tough currency measure attached to trade promotion authority would doom the Pacific trade accord, scaring away important countries like Japan and Malaysia in a misguided jab at China.

“Is the goal to get T.P.A. done, or is it to crush the president’s trade agenda?” asked a Republican aide on the Senate Finance Committee.

The customs bill in question is multifaceted. Besides the currency measure, it includes the creation of an interagency trade enforcement center and a system to respond faster to unfair trade practices like the dumping of exports at prices below the cost of production. Another provision would require the Customs and Border Protection agency to expeditiously investigate allegations of customs duty evasion. Still another would close a 75-year-old loophole that allows the importation of goods provided by child labor if a company cannot find those goods elsewhere.

Candy makers are opposing that last provision on the novel ground that it would kill Ghana’s cocoa trade.

<snip>

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/business/fight-over-china-currency-policies-threatens-vote-on-trade-bill.html?_r=0

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TPA Minutia: Corporations want to preserve a loophole that allows them to use child labor (Original Post) cali May 2015 OP
Shameful! ananda May 2015 #1
Yeah. That's the word. cali May 2015 #5
IF? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #2
+1000000 nashville_brook May 2015 #10
Why? Because corporations have that much power. cali May 2015 #11
Everybody that produces anything Aerows May 2015 #3
I gotta say I much admire and respect your bulldog traits. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #4
thanks. I've always loved research cali May 2015 #7
+1 BrotherIvan May 2015 #15
Cali, thank you for staying on this. woo me with science May 2015 #6
thanks, wmws. Me too. Appalled, I mean. cali May 2015 #8
Surely you want the lesser-yeared to enjoy employment opportunities? IDemo May 2015 #9
Lowlife's Segami May 2015 #12
Shitweasels. hifiguy May 2015 #13
cali, I'll add my voice to woo's, thanking you for your perserverence on this issue. Scuba May 2015 #14
thanks, Scuba cali May 2015 #16
cali Diclotican May 2015 #17
hi Diclotician. Nice to see you cali May 2015 #18
cali Diclotican May 2015 #22
There's so much horrific stuff in TPA/TPP that this one does qualify as minor Jim Lane May 2015 #19
thanks, Jim. cali May 2015 #27
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2015 #20
Thanks, Thespian2 May 2015 #21
I am adding... onyourleft May 2015 #23
What's that sound? Why crickets of course...... nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2015 #24
it's impossible to defend this cali May 2015 #25
Oh just you wait. Nothing surprises me anymore. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2015 #26
I know. cali May 2015 #28
kick woo me with science May 2015 #29
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. Yeah. That's the word.
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:24 PM
May 2015

And this kind of exemplifies why I'm so opposed to the tpp- and passing the tpa unless a lot of stuff is firmly nailed down.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. IF?
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:21 PM
May 2015
Still another would close a 75-year-old loophole that allows the importation of goods provided by child labor if a company cannot find those goods elsewhere.


IF? Why the heck isn't it just 'close a loophole that allows the importation of goods provided by child labor'? Why is there even still a clause that allows such for ANY reason?
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. Why? Because corporations have that much power.
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:55 PM
May 2015

and as long as they can keep crap like this in the dark, it slithers along.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. Everybody that produces anything
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

in first world countries (and are resource rich in one way or another) oppose this. Not the heads of CEO's - the nuts and bolts of the productive class.

You don't have to convince me any further, there is already significant opposition from those that don't use child labor and are looking at their livelihood of producing actual goods (as opposed to just capital for shareholders) realizing that they will be given the squeeze that will likely impoverish them if they aren't there already.

It is the people who actually do vs. the people that wish to reap profits off of those who actually do.

The actual contributing class.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
4. I gotta say I much admire and respect your bulldog traits.
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:23 PM
May 2015

You keep hitting with an amazing level of breadth and detail in your information.

I'm just really glad you're not coming after me with all that wonkery.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. thanks. I've always loved research
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:38 PM
May 2015

really appreciate folks paying any attention to what can be pretty dry and technical. Obviously, it's pretty darn interesting to me, but it's all these little bits and pieces that fly under the radar, but add up to a disturbing whole that I want to root out and expose.

So thanks for reading and commenting.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
6. Cali, thank you for staying on this.
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

You are a treasure at DU.

The more I hear, the more appalled I am at the moral bankruptcy of anyone supporting this garbage.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. Shitweasels.
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:02 PM
May 2015

Everything reduced to numbers of a spreadsheet. This kind of shit makes me wish there were a hell for these evil fuckers.

The logic of capitalism in all its glory.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. cali, I'll add my voice to woo's, thanking you for your perserverence on this issue.
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:23 PM
May 2015

You are indeed a treasure.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
17. cali
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:13 PM
May 2015

cali

Disgusting - I have allways beliving we had being going forward - not backward the last 100 years, when it come to child-labours and so one - but if TPP, TPA and the rest is accepted - it would be a return to the 1800s for so many millions....

But, thats capitalism for you - slavelabour where it is posible to make it so - and a race to bottom for the rest...

Diclotican

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. hi Diclotician. Nice to see you
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:20 PM
May 2015

I'm afraid I think we move more sideways than forward or even back. Slave labor and child labor and forced labor have never gone away, those practices just get hidden and disguised and shuffled around. I don't see the TPP and other so called free trade agreements improving on the status quo and we've seen places like Colombia where a U.S.- Colombian FTA actually made things worse.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
22. cali
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:02 PM
May 2015

cali

Hello, nice to se you too

I agree - it is rather sad - that after little more than 100 years - we are looking at the same problems our great-grandparents had to face when they was little - more or less slave labor - where even children have to work hard and long hours to just get by.. I think our great-grandparents would have a few words for us - if they had known how bad things really are in parts of the world - and that the powers to be - want it to be that again for most pepole... But then again - thats what you get, when you do not support your local union - or for that matter work together - to fight the ones who want to destroy everything resembling "socialism" in the world....

Free-trade agreements is just another way to say - Screw the working class - the wealthy will get the benefits - the working class get the screw.... Basically it is the result of free-trade agreement....

Diocletian

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
19. There's so much horrific stuff in TPA/TPP that this one does qualify as minor
Tue May 12, 2015, 09:03 PM
May 2015

If this were a standalone bill it would be front-page news.

Many thanks, cali, for bringing this to our attention!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. thanks, Jim.
Wed May 13, 2015, 06:42 AM
May 2015

I guess I lean toward seeing this not as one discrete little item, but as something that represents many problems that lie beneath the surface.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
21. Thanks,
Tue May 12, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

must still be diligent...TPA will come up for another vote, I think...


Appreciate your work...always good...

onyourleft

(726 posts)
23. I am adding...
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:38 PM
May 2015

...my voice to thank you for all of the great information on this subject. While I have not responded often to your postings, I always read them and usually learn something new. Nice work, cali.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
25. it's impossible to defend this
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:58 PM
May 2015

no matter how much someone loves and trusts Obama. Easier to keep pretending
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
28. I know.
Wed May 13, 2015, 06:45 AM
May 2015

Let's review:

President Obama, the exalted and ever honorable is fighting the forces of evil embodied by liberal politicians, environmental organizations, human rights groups, labor unions and public interest groups. Only wise republicans like Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz have the foresight to see this and courageously stand by the best President in modern history.

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