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Warren vs Obama . . . . . discuss (Original Post) Stinky The Clown May 2015 OP
They are on the same side and support one another and agree, policy-wise, on most issues. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #1
My 3-D chess prowess says he's giving Hillary wiggle room WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #2
Ding, ding , ding we have a winner. This allows her to look like she is far left of him, and gives Pisces May 2015 #21
Beltway and FUD meme's, they disagree on 10 things out of 1000... That's too close imho.... uponit7771 May 2015 #3
Warren was critical of Obama, and KMOD May 2015 #4
I like them both. JaneyVee May 2015 #5
this quote from a NYT article makes me sick. rbnyc May 2015 #6
Some policies are much bigger than others WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #7
why pit Democrat against Democrat? Terra Alta May 2015 #8
Because Obama's a Republican BeyondGeography May 2015 #9
Warren was a relatively obscure former Republican until Obana took a chance appointing Hoyt May 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #11
They know the obtuseness here makes it tough. Hoyt May 2015 #13
Obama was relatively obscure until Joe Lieberman took him on as a protege. OnyxCollie May 2015 #16
so obscure that Hillary consulted with her on cali May 2015 #19
Hillary consulted with a lot of folks who had no chance at public office, including Warren. Hoyt May 2015 #20
According to this Wash. Post article, they CharlotteVale May 2015 #12
From the WaPo piece above, a bit of nonsense in a pretty solid article. hedda_foil May 2015 #22
the "we agree on 90%" meme was effective! Obama proves WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #14
there will never be a politician Terra Alta May 2015 #17
I'll Go With Warren Every Time... WillyT May 2015 #15
Corporatist vs. Populist. Barack_America May 2015 #18
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
2. My 3-D chess prowess says he's giving Hillary wiggle room
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

She can wait and find out which way the wind blows before announcing she's always been a supporter or opponent of TPP.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
21. Ding, ding , ding we have a winner. This allows her to look like she is far left of him, and gives
Wed May 13, 2015, 12:38 AM
May 2015

her something to complain about the current admin. to highlight a difference. It is a well contrived disagreement.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
3. Beltway and FUD meme's, they disagree on 10 things out of 1000... That's too close imho....
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

... might as well be pres and vp

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
4. Warren was critical of Obama, and
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

he fought back on the criticisms.

SSDD. Democrats attack each other, and Republicans sit back and laugh.

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
6. this quote from a NYT article makes me sick.
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:50 PM
May 2015
Mr. Obama has said Democrats have been spreading disinformation about the Pacific trade accord and the authority he is seeking, singling out Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts for her role in opposing the accord.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/business/senate-vote-obama-fast-track-trade-deal.html?referrer=

It's just flat out disingenuous, and insulting to all of us who just want transparency, opportunity to amend, and, oh yeah, INFORMATION.

We weren't satisfied with the infographic of vague out-of-context promises crafted by his PR team and he's mad.

It's just so disappointing. And it's a betrayal of our trust.
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
7. Some policies are much bigger than others
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:51 PM
May 2015

TPP isn't a single vote. It's making major economic policy decisions.

It's like saying Hillary's war vote was just one vote and we're not living with the repercussions 12 years later.

1 <> 1

Don't be so myopic.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
8. why pit Democrat against Democrat?
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:52 PM
May 2015

They agree on far more things than they disagree on. We shouldn't be like the Republicans and pit members of our own party against each other. Obama isn't perfect, but I'd take him over McCain or Romney any day.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Warren was a relatively obscure former Republican until Obana took a chance appointing
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:54 PM
May 2015

Warren and sticking up for her (and I'm not minimizing her accomplishments, but she had done little in politics before Obama).

He deserved better than the junk she spread.

Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
16. Obama was relatively obscure until Joe Lieberman took him on as a protege.
Wed May 13, 2015, 12:08 AM
May 2015
Lieberman 2006: I Will Help Obama "Reach to the Stars"
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/08/31/lieberman-2006-i-will-help-obama-reach-to-the-stars

"As far as I'm concerned (Barack Obama) is a 'Baruch,' which means a blessing. He is a blessing to the United States Senate, to America, and to our shared hopes for better, safer tomorrows for all our families. The gifts that God has given to Barack Obama are as enormous as his future is unlimited. As his mentor, as his colleague, as his friend, I look forward to helping him reach to the stars and realize not just the dreams he has for himself, but the dreams we all have for him and our blessed country."
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. so obscure that Hillary consulted with her on
Wed May 13, 2015, 12:17 AM
May 2015

Bankruptcy while the Clintons were still in the WH.

Proving once again that you don't have the foggiest

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. Hillary consulted with a lot of folks who had no chance at public office, including Warren.
Wed May 13, 2015, 12:20 AM
May 2015

Without Obama's appointment and backing, Warren would not be a Senator now .

hedda_foil

(16,370 posts)
22. From the WaPo piece above, a bit of nonsense in a pretty solid article.
Wed May 13, 2015, 02:08 AM
May 2015

This just leapt up toe and bit my nose.


Warren’s tenure in the Senate has been focused on banking and Wall Street, and she has made countless appearances in liberal settings or with liberal media outlets to argue that wage stagnation is causing the middle class to fall behind.

Democrats largely latched onto this message for the 2014 midterm elections, and Warren became a star on the campaign trail, working for other candidates. But the effort paid little dividend to anyone but Warren. Democrats lost nine Senate seats and were relegated to their smallest number of House seats since before the Great Depression.


WTF?????
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