TPP goes forward.

[mmonk]

Today I change my registration to unaffiliated. Hope it doesn't change my status here since I support Bernie Sanders for President who is running on the Democratic ticket. I leave the judgment to you. I love you. Have a great day.

[marym625]

1. It's just unbelievable

They finally take a stand but only for a minute


Sucks!

[woo me with science]

80. A very familiar pattern by now.

It's all about the propaganda:

What a predictable, manipulative con game by corporate Democrats.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6668324

Our corrupt corporate media is still selling the illusion of Red versus Blue, but the truth is that we live in united oligarchy, not divided democracy.

Red versus Blue is an elaborately propagandized con game.

[marym625]

128. Yeah. It's all such bullshit.

Just absolutely bullshit.

#Bernie2016!

[sendero]

129. Yes.....

...... but imagine a govt with house, senate and presidency all in Republican hands! You'd have..... pretty much what you have now for any issue involving money.

[NYC_SKP]

140. TPTB have successfully implemented their vision/strategy. Two parties, one outcome. (my new book)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1277&pid=6155

Vote against the power. Stop Hillary Clinton.

[Autumn]

2. I understand. We all reach a breaking point. I did that myself after Dimon

was whipping votes on the Senate floor at the behest of Obama during the Omnibus. I switched back when Bernie announced his candidacy as a Democrat so I can caucus for him. If he loses or drops out I will switch back to Unaffiliated.

[djean111]

3. I am with you, sir or madam.

I will be voting for Bernie in the primary, and then change my registration after that.
I won't be needing to check out political stuff after that, I will just be voting for Bernie.
The Democratic Party is turning into a club I do not want to belong to. You have a great day! And - no one is entitled to judge you. Or me. Irrelevant.

[RoccoR5955]

11. Bernie shall be nominated,

So I don't feel that there is need for me to change my registration. However, if Mrs. Clinton gets the nomination, I shall change to unaffiliated, or Working Family's Party.

[closeupready]

73. Me too.

[hifiguy]

4. The fix is in, just as it always has been for the last 35 years.

I only take comfort, a small bit, from the fact that the system of predatory capitalism will inevitably collapse, just as every other "competition" based system created by humans has collapsed. Probably long after I am gone, but history will not be cheated.

[villager]

29. Oh, it's going to collapse. The *only* remaining question is: at what cost?

And it is in offering to barely, occasionally, sometimes ameliorate those "costs" that the Democrats insist on our unswerving and unquestioning loyalty.

[hifiguy]

41. A thorough systemic collapse

and a significant die off, aggravated by climate change is my bet; though an asteroid strike can't be conclusively ruled out.

I tend to take a Roddenberry view of the next couple of centuries - planetary collapse/catastrophe and die-off, with enough left to make the rebuilding of civilization possible over the medium term. And if they learn anything they will base humanity's second act on collaborative/cooperative institutions, renounce competitive capitalism and embrace an environmentally sustainable democratic socialism that more or less levels wealth distribution. It's the only way the species can survive in the long run.

[villager]

49. Humans making deliberately wise decisions about their social and economic structures...

...would be a surprising evolutionary leap. Though as you note, it will probably take collapse to "force" it...

[Octafish]

102. Shitting Robots You Can Believe In!

Beep! Beep! Beep!

[RoccoR5955]

139. I love it!

Mc Cain in Pike's chair. If only he would beep, and not open his mouth so much!

[jwirr]

108. Will there be an ark? A way of surviving?

[hifiguy]

110. It won't be needed.

The system is going to collapse, because things that cannot go on forever won't. It's not going to be something on the order of a nuclear winter, but there will be a lot of hardship when capitalism finally implodes, as its own logic dictates it must. I'd estimate (read - pull out of my ass) that about 33-40% of the world population is going to die off. Which will be good for the long term survival of the species. This planet cannot possibly accommodate 7-8 billion people save in the direst sort of poverty for all, save for the Owning Class.

I am not saying that things are going to look like "The Stand," but rather a lot of people may well go back to living off the land for a generation or two while a new kind of civilization is rebuilt.

The die off will come about, or be directly facilitated by the plutocracy, by means of disease, neglect, starvation and exposure, in other words, poverty. At least assuming that asteroid doesn't hit. And the effects of all these things will be aggravated by climate change and the submersion of numerous coastal cities around the world.

Capitalists, like Doctor Frankenstein, have created the thing that will inevitably destroy them. I hope it takes them out before it destroys the planet and the human species.

[jwirr]

124. Thank you. That is clearer. Me and my family are already about half way there. Poor and working

on going back to living off the land.

The collapse I fear the most is health care. But they told me my daughter would only live 30 years when she was born and I guess the 55 years she has lived is a long thing.

I can see some of this must happen in order to make the changes that are needed. I only wish that 1% were going to feel the brunt of it.

I want Bernie to win but no matter who wins it is just going to be a matter of time. We are like that train going 107 mph around a curve we are on the way down.

[hifiguy]

126. I think lhat a part of it will be

the kind of vengeance that has been taken on tyrannical classes throughout history, It will not be at all pretty, but it is almost certainly a necessity,

[jwirr]

127. I think we can see this throughout history. But for most of my life I have been a pacifist. I hate

to see it come to this.

[F4lconF16]

134. socialist_n_Tn posted this great nugget of truth a few days ago ...

"The amount of violence in a socialist revolution is in direct proportion to the amount of violence that the state and the capitalist system uses to PROTECT said system."

When the change happens, the more we can bond together as communities and as a working class, the more likely we are to have any chance at surviving and perhaps even thriving through this. It won't be an easy road, and though I am for peace, those who hold power will not give it up easily. Baltimore could only stay oppressed for so long--that is a glimpse of what a real revolution will look like: they will use the police in the beginning, and the military in the end. The question is, how many will stand with the working class, and how many will become lackeys for the state and the capitalist class?

Many advocate for avoiding a revolution--I think to do so is to ignore the realities of crisis that are coming. We will have revolution whether we want it or not. I would prefer to do so with the full will of the oppressed behind it, in the spirit of solidarity and class power.

To be a pacifist is a worthy goal; I can understand that and even am to some extent myself. Violence is something that deeply bothers me, no matter the type or extent. Acting to harm another goes against the core of my being. But seeing violence acted upon my brothers and sisters by a state and class is even worse. I'll fight to protect them, avoiding violence as much as I can, but not shunning the possibility that it may happen in response.

[jwirr]

135. I especially like the 2nd paragraph. We must stand together.

[hifiguy]

141. Do you have a link to the OP with that quote?

You can DU mail me if you wish. Tnx!

Also, I firmly believe one of the reasons the kkkops have been militarized is that TPTB don't trust the military to fire on the citizenry when the crunch comes. The kkkops will massacre the citizenry without a second thought, but there aren't enough of them to win the war. I honestly doubt that the many in the military would gun down the people.

[Go Vols]

65. And Obama

claims he would have been considered a moderate Republican 35 years ago.

I think Bernie may be the last Prez contender to represent my views in my lifetime.

[MissDeeds]

75. I'm right there with you

"I think Bernie may be the last Prez contender to represent my views in my lifetime." Sadly, I agree.

[sadoldgirl]

5. I just changed back to the Dems.

Will wait for our caucuses. Should Bernie win, I'll stay,
if not, I'll go Green again.

BTW, you will still get a lot of calls from the party for
money, volunteering,etc; at least that happened to me.

[tridim]

6. Unaffiliated folks will still get their serving of crow when the TPP turns out to be a good deal.

And it will.

Good luck to ya!

[daleanime]

7. Oh, it's a great deal....

for those who don't need a great deal. For the rest of us

[tridim]

21. What's your evidence? Julian Assange?

[daleanime]

27. Simply my own eyes, where's all the profit in this economy been going?

I seen nothing that would change that trend from what little has been stolen from our national secret and no one involved in writing it is making that change an issue.

But feel free to continue to mock my concerns in any fashion you wish, not that you need my permission, I just don't want you to feel any embarrassment.

[Autumn]

8. Based on what? Obama's word?

[tridim]

17. Yes. nt

[Autumn]

19. Enjoy your crow then , Democratic crow will taste no better than Unaffiliated crow.

[tridim]

23. I'm not worried.

And BTW, I am damn proud of my party and my President.

It's sad that I am forced to defend Democrats on DU.

[Autumn]

25. I'm not proud of either at this time.

[leftofcool]

28. DU used to be Democratic Underground. I don't think it is anymore.

[villager]

31. Well, it used be more "Underground." Where it was understood that meant questioning...

.... the status quo, and who gets to pull the strings, etc...

[pnwmom]

86. It was started during the Bush years, when all Democrats felt more underground.

So the emphasis was on Democrats more than it has been in recent years.

[villager]

89. Yes, it was started then and I was posting then, and the spirit was more "Underground"

...on all things.

Slowly, that's eroded, as many have felt compelled to defend status quo positions here, rather than keep questioning them...

[pnwmom]

103. That was your impression, but not mine. I feel that over the years this site has attracted

a greater number of progressives from other parties than it started with.

[villager]

112. Interesting. I've seen a more vociferous defense of formerly right-tilted positions here

... simply if those positions are mouthed by someone calling themselves a Democrat.

[Mojorabbit]

130. I agree. nt

[MohRokTah]

39. It's become FarLeftUnderground. eom

[ScreamingMeemie]

46. That is ridiculous.

I used to be a moderate back in 2003 when I joined. Now, with my same beliefs? I'm far left? Excuse the espression, but fuck that noise.

[MohRokTah]

50. If the shoe fits. eom

[ScreamingMeemie]

54. It doesn't. Sorry holding Dem values is not far left.

Jesus that's scary as hell that people can turn their backs on basic Democratic principles so quickly.

[Go Vols]

70. +1

[MohRokTah]

91. What about basic Dem principles does the TPP violate?

OOPS, you have no clue what's in it, especially since it isn't close to being finished yet.

[riqster]

58. I hear ya. I am a Truman Dem who still identifies as a Centrist, I catch a lot of flak.

[Broward]

63. Faux Dems hijack the party then move it right and call you Far Left. Crazy how that works.

[G_j]

94. you got it

been goin' that way for a while now..

[L0oniX]

97. FDR haters.

[jwirr]

114. I see that also. One damn sure thing this issue and the insults that are flying from the WH and many

DUers are going to be the legacy that destroys the Democratic Party with nothing else to replace it. And there does not be anything we can do about it.

[leftofcool]

107. No kidding!

[markpkessinger]

115. Oh please . . .

. . . there's barely even a Left in this country, let alone a 'Far Left.'

[MohRokTah]

120. Oh please...

...there's an active and extremely vocal Far Left in this country. Fortunately, most people ignore them.

[F4lconF16]

132. Wanna know something?

That "far left" you're so critical of includes people like MLK, Eugene Debs, Jane Addams, W.E.B. Du Bois, Ella Baker, Rachel Carson, Pete Seeger, Cesar Chavez, and so many more.

The far left has done more good for the working class than any other part of the spectrum. They're the ones that push for constant change. They're the ones that don't shut up about injustice. They're the ones who won't sit back down when they're told. The far left and its radicalism has driven more change than any of the Democratic politicians who talk about their bullshit "Hope and Change".

I'm proud to call myself part of the true "far left" in this country.

Good thing most people ignore them, though.

[RoccoR5955]

138. Only because the DLC

has gone far to the right.
By standards only twenty years ago, or less, this place is quite conservative.
I would probably get slammed if I said that there should be an end to capitalism.
I do get slammed when chiding people about religion not being in the government. I have even gotten censored in this place for some of my, what I consider populist, but moderators consider far left views.
No this is not the FarLeftUnderground. It is the CenterRightDemocraticUnderground.

[840high]

85. Yes - when our Presidents were true Democrats.

[Hoyt]

35. +1.

[zeemike]

81. It is sounding more and more like a cult of personality

Than a party you are defending...DU is not a cult, and that sounds disappointing to some here.

[rhett o rick]

96. He said it'd work out. He didn't elaborate on for whom. nm

[840high]

82. I feel sorry for you.

[n2doc]

9. I keep asking you folks, got any lotto numbers?

You seem so sure about the future. Given that every single trade agreement has been a disaster for the US manufacturing sector and the working middle class, I see no signs for optimism. And if HRC fails next year, the final agreement will be negotiated by a Republican. Good Day.

[Enthusiast]

32. +1 You nailed it.

[Aerows]

42. I agree.

I base my opinions on fact, and the facts I've read about the TPP are extremely unsettling. Some seem to (by all appearances) base their opinions on faith.

Faith that Obama is championing the TPP for the good of everybody. Sweetness and light.

Facts are facts and blind faith mostly turns out to be fiction.

None of the people cheering for the TPP will be around to explain how misguided it was when it all comes out in the wash. They will be on to the next politician they can latch on to that they can have faith in.

I welcome the current scorn - at least I know I'm on the right side of history.

[hifiguy]

43. And if she's elected

it will be signed anyway. Economically the next election is lose-lose unless Bernie is the nominee.

[awoke_in_2003]

72. It's different this time

because Obama.

[mmonk]

10. Do you get to eat crow when it fails?

Or will you come up with an excuse?

[tridim]

18. Sure, why not. nt

[rhett o rick]

12. While many notible people have given many ways this can be bad, NO ONE has come forward

to explain how this deal could possibly be good for the 99%. No one has explained what possible language could make things better for the American worker. And with that you believe it will be a good deal. Now that's loyalty.

[jtuck004]

24. From above - we get crow to eat if it works out. That's about the most positive

thing I have found out about it so far.

And perhaps the most honest.

[Hoyt]

47. If they do something to minimize currency manipulation, it will

improve job situation here. I've not seen the currency manipulation bill, so who knows what it'll say.

Lots of economists felt that was the major flaw in what we know of TPP.

[n2doc]

104. The President has said he will veto any bill that requires curbs on currency manipulation n/t

[bluesbassman]

26. Unfortunately crow, squirrel, and possum are all any of us has to look forward to should TPP pass.

Lot's of 'em around here so I won't starve. Feel sorry for my city dwelling brothers and sisters though. Maybe sewer rat tastes better than it sounds.

[Enthusiast]

34. +1

[L0oniX]

95. Bwahahahahahah

[bahrbearian]

111. So we get to eat Crow if it Passes (Celebration Dinner) , after that we get Cat Food

[ananda]

13. Grrrr

Fumes

[mmonk]

14. I only hope your judgment is not harsh. I will vote my only option

where I live which is Democrat. I wouldn't vote for a Republican with a loaded gun to my head. It's just I know no other way to lodge a complaint where they agree with Republicans. It's the only thing I could think of.

[Robbins]

15. Right there with you

as of today i am now liberal independent who is supporting Bernie sanders for democratic nomination.If he loses i am staying home
In november 2016.

I was f-ing idiot to support Obama.

While i will never vote republican i will only vote democrat when I have reason to.I live in Missouri so voting is almost a waste of time if your a liberal.

You can only fool some for so long.TPP was my last strew.

[F4lconF16]

136. Don't stay home.

Get on the streets. Do activist work, or move leftwards and join a 3rd party. If this comes to pass and you leave the party, put that freedom to good use. Use your separation to fight for the good of the working class instead of withdrawing. That's one of two things they hope you will do: give up, or give in.

[newfie11]

16. Time to find a new country

I am beyond pissed!

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Like which country? Canada?

They're also part of TPP.

European countries? They've also been heavily involved in free trade negotiations for different agreements.

Free trade isn't just an American thing.

[Thespian2]

78. Good call...

I live in Canada...I am a US citizen, and I vote in America...

Canada is not the answer...we have a conservative government headed by a criminal asshole...excuse me, Stephen Harper...

Many European countries would be a better bet...

[Cali_Democrat]

87. Europeans are into free trade too

They're even negotiating a free trade agreement with Canada...in addition to the free trade they have among themselves.

[Thespian2]

131. Just saying

there are options...but most countries are into "free" trade...I don't see any way to avoid it...

Obviously, I prefer to live in the Maritimes...we are far away from large cities...and Stephen Harper...

[djean111]

90. Yeah. And the Europeans are protesting the TTIP. Looks like this new corporate-controlled "trade"

is everywhere. Gotta give it to the corporations - they are running the game. Running the table. Kudos.

[newfie11]

123. Ecuador nt

[leftofcool]

30. Good luck finding one not part of the TPP.

[newfie11]

121. Ecuador

I've wanted to move there for 10 year but my husband wasn't for it. This may change his mind.

[stonecutter357]

36. i here russia is a nice place

[L0oniX]

116. One in the Scandinavia sounds good to me.

[Buns_of_Fire]

22. "When an elephant flies, you don't blame it because it can't stay up there very long."

They are, after all, just politicians, doing what they do best.

Remember, though, this doesn't QUITE seal the deal. Now, the final tweakings will be tweaked, the TPP will be finalized, the text will be released to one and all (unless the administration decides to slap a DOUBLE-SECRET CLASSIFICATION on it), and everyone will have a couple of months to argue it before...

...we'll all be screwed over again, no doubt.

[Unvanguard]

33. Most of the Democrats in Congress will likely vote against TPP.

For what it's worth.

[still_one]

40. That isn't the point. Why fast track it?

[Unvanguard]

44. Most Democrats in Congress might also vote against fast track.

The party is not controlled by the President. This deal gives them enough votes to get fast-track through the Senate, but to do that they need only peel away a few Democrats.

[still_one]

55. Maybe, but I suspect they got the cover they needed, it will be fast tracked

and win with the majority of republicans causing it to pass. If it is fast tracked, voting against the TPP is moot, because the republicans will insure passage, at least that is my understanding

[Unvanguard]

64. Sure. Fast track will probably get passed.

I'm just saying that the Democrats as a whole aren't to blame for this, even if individual Democrats are.

[still_one]

37. Sherrod Brown who did his pomp and circumstance yesterday, had no problem with

It today. Said the compromise was acceptable

My question is simply why does it need to be fast tracked

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Goes forward proudly displaying a fresh coat of lipstick.

[still_one]

45. They think they have their cover, and we are idiots. They will vote against the TPP

But by allowing it to be fast tracked it is a moot issue

As the saying goes, "don't piss on my back and tell me it is raining"

[hifiguy]

51. Oink.

[MohRokTah]

48. So I guess Obama has delivered a stinging counter blow to the Populist Dems?

[bahrbearian]

113. Obama and the Republicans.

[MohRokTah]

119. You forgot the Democrats, too. eom

[woo me with science]

52. Note our corrupt corporate Dems took the time to *pretend* they opposed it first.

To get the headlines saying that Democrats were standing up against this sack of predatory shit.

*Then* they reversed course, after the public accolades.


Just like Obama's lying, highly publicized speech pretending that he would rein in military involvement...followed immediately by two new wars in Syria and Iraq, funding carpet-bombing of captive populations in Gaza, and a trillion-dollar escalation in nuclear weapons.

We are ruled by manipulative propagandists and craven corporate criminals who do not hesitate to lie to our faces, pretending to stand for one agenda while pursuing the opposite.

They constantly manipulate what Americans will see and remember, while selling us out to predators.


What a cesspool of deliberate corruption our government has become.

[aspirant]

83. Will the Oregonites

now forgive Wyden because he delayed TPA for 1 day?

[Bluenorthwest]

105. It's Oregonians and no, not if he votes for it the delay will just irk people more.

nt

[F4lconF16]

137. Nope.

My dad is refusing to vote for Wyden again because of this, and that's really saying something.

[KoKo]

88. .....!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MissDeeds]

92. +1000

Well said!

[Aerows]

53. To everyone that opposes the TPP

At least you can say you are on the right side of history. It's a bad deal and is going to drag the US down.

But take heart, we have a couple of other countries involved that are also not too keen on it.

Expect, specifically, New Zealand to object vociferously and Australia to get noisy, too.

The people that want this are large corporations to outsource labor to places where it is cheap and require countries with commodities and resources to hand them over wholesale, this time without tariffs.

[ScreamingMeemie]

56. .. and those who support them without asking questions.

[Aerows]

59. The only reason

I can imagine a person that is a US citizen, a NZ citizen or an AUS citizen supports this is because they are paid to profess that they support it.

I hope to heaven that they are supporting it because they are being paid to support it because otherwise, three of the countries that supposedly have intelligent citizens and high HDI contain people that are complete fools.

Who am I kidding, everyone has those. But not politically savvy folk. If you are in any way politically savvy and don't realize the consequences, well, you will when the bus plows into your house and then turns around to run over you.

[still_one]

57. I don't know if I am for or against it, but I am against fast tracking it

[Aerows]

60. Well how in the hell can you know whether to be for or against it

because huge chunks of it are being brokered in secret.

[still_one]

62. The joke is that fast track authority only requires a simple majority, so you are correct

and by allowing a vote on fast tracking, if I was a betting man I would say the TPP is a done deal, without the public really knowing what it contains

[Aerows]

69. If it was so good for the public

Why would it be conducted in secret?

Answer: It's damning for resource rich countries, and is a boon for labor rich countries. Labor rich because they are willing to work for pennies while we hand over our valuable resources for pennies with no benefit to the taxpayer, land owner or those that own local business.

That's as concisely as I can describe it.

[Marr]

61. It's sad that the sycophants are so personally invested in some politician that they actually cheer

as he pulls the rug out from beneath them and their children-- just because it angers liberals.

Totally irrational.

[Rex]

67. Not really, there is a certain type of person that has hated liberals all their lives.

They voted for Reagan and they also voted for Bush in Florida by the tens of thousands. YET, believe it or not they will claim to this day to be a part of the Democratic party...until we try and elect another liberal like Al Gore.

Then they twist the knife in our back all over again...

[Aerows]

84. It's absolute folly.

I can understand having faith in a person, but not to the point where it is CLEAR they are making a bad deal.

Our only hope at this point is that a couple of other resource rich countries object. That's where we are - praying other countries don't hop aboard the UTPP Fail and move to sink their own involvement in it.

[darkangel218]

101. +1

[Jack Rabbit]

66. This is disappointing

I won't change my registration because that is only a box checked on a form. Besides, I still plan to vote for Bernie Sanders in the California primary.

Nevertheless, I feel right now more than ever, including in the immediate aftermath of the beginning of the War against Iraq, that the Democratic Party establishment is totally worthless.

[JEB]

68. If Democrats won't look after

the interests of American workers, who will? I guess fucking nobody. At least nobody with a scrap of power.

[Number23]

71. So does that mean that all the high fives and "Thanks, everybody but Obama!!one" posts yesterday

were a bit premature?

[leftofcool]

109. Looks like it.

[PumpkinAle]

74. The TPP is NOT good for America...................

Have you not read anything from the groups who say this is a bad idea -

A Sampling of Groups Speaking Out on the TPP and Fast Track

LABOR
Teamsters, NAFTA Shows the Damage Fast Track Could Bring, 01/06/14
CWA, Tell Congress Fast Track Is the Wrong Track, 01/02/14
Boilermakers, Tell Congress to Block Fast-Track Authority, 12/11/13
Steelworkers, USW Criticizes TPP Trade Deal Negotiations, 12/10/13
Machinists, Machinists Union Urges Slow Down on Fast Track for TPP, 12/09/13
Carpenters, UBC Gen. President McCarron on Fast Track Secrecy and the Dangerous TPP, 12/09/13
AFL-CIO, America and the World Need a New Approach to Trade and Globalization, 09/13
IBEW, The Trans-Pacific Partnership, 04/13
ILWU, ILWU Joins Protest Against Latest “Free Trade” Deal, 08/08/12
AGRICULTURE
NFU, Statement by NFU and JA Zenchu on TPP Negotiations, 06/11/13
IATP, TPP: Doubling Down on Failed Trade Policy, 03/06/13
NFFC & 10 Others, Letter to Rep. Peterson on the TPP’s Potential Impact to Dairy Farmers, 03/04/13
CONSUMER
Food & Water Watch, TPP: No Wonder They Want to Keep It Secret, 12/09/13
Consumers International, TPP: Consumer Movement’s Trade Deal Reaction, 11/15/13
March Against Monsanto, Secret TPP Conferences Set to Commence, 11/14/13
Food & Water Watch, Trading Away Our Safe Seafood, 09/11/13
Organic Consumers Association, Secret Trade Agreements Threaten Food Safety, Subvert Democracy, 06/13/13
Public Citizen, Obama’s Covert Trade Deal, 06/02/13
CURRENCY
Alliance for American Manufacturing, 60 Senators Urge Action on Japan’s Currency Manipulation, 09/24/13
Coalition for a Prosperous America, CPA Submits ITC Comments on Japan’s Entry to TPP, 06/12/13
UAW, Statement on Japan’s Inclusion in the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 04/12/13
ENVIRONMENT
350.org, Say No to Corporate Power Grabs; Reject the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 12/03/13
Oceana & 23 Others, Addressing Conservation Challenges in the TPP, 11/14/13
Sierra Club, Raw Deal: How the TPP Could Threaten Our Climate, 11/13
Friends of the Earth, Stop Fast Track Authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 10/17/13
Food & Water Watch, The TPP: Fast Tracking Fracking, 09/13
Rainforest Action Network, TPP: Trojan Horse for Corporate Domination?, 09/13/12
INTERNET
Electronic Frontier Foundation, Civil Society Demands Transparency and User Protections in TPP, 11/22/13
Credo, Defend the Internet – Stop the TPP, 11/15/13
Knowledge Ecology International, KEI Analysis of Wikileaks TPP IPR Text, 11/13/13
WikiLeaks, Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, 11/13/13
Free Press, We Stopped SOPA – Let’s Stop the TPP, 11/13/13
Internet NZ & 33 Others, A Fair Deal, 2013
Open Media, Stop the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 2013
Public Knowledge, TPP Info: Your Guide to Copyright in the TPP, 2011
Amnesty International, TPP Must Not Trade Away Free Speech, 09/06/12
TEXTILES
AMTAC, AMTAC Urges Obama Administration to Reconsider Vietnam’s Participation in the TPP, 10/16/12
Textile and Apparel Alliance for TPP, New Global Coalition Urges Textile Rules that Support Jobs, 02/29/12
NCTO, Statement on the TPP, 12/14/11
TOBACCO
CPATH, Smoke Out Tobacco from the TPP, 12/13
American Academy of Pediatrics & 4 Others, Letter on Tobacco in the TPP, 09/11/13
Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids & 4 Others, USTR Abandons Plan to Protect Tobacco Control Measures in the TPP, 08/19/13
Corporate Accountability International, Tell Congress: Oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 2013
ACCESS TO MEDICINE
American Medical Student Association, Physicians-in-Training Push for Access to TPP, 11/22/13
AARP, Trade Deal Could Lock in High Drug Prices, 10/23/13
Doctors Without Borders, TPP: Trading Away Health, 08/18/13
Public Citizen, TPP and Access to Medicine, 2013
Health GAP, The TPP: A Key Battleground in Access, 2013
HUMAN RIGHTS
TransAfrica Forum, This Trade Fight Is Against Global Apartheid, 12/23/13
Human Rights Watch, What Kerry Needs to Say in Vietnam, 12/14/13
CWA, The TPP Will Reward Vietnam for Systemic Violations of Human Rights, 12/04/13
Teamsters, Labor and Human Rights Coalition Calls for Suspension of Trade Discussion with Vietnam, 07/24/13
Worker Rights Consortium, Made in Vietnam, 05/13
OTHERS
Citizens Trade Campaign, Another Missed TPP Deadline Calls Pact’s Agenda into Question, 12/09/13
Campaign for America’s Future, Urgent Fast Track Trade Deal Alert, 12/06/13
MoveOn.org, Congress: Don’t Renew Fast Track Authority, 12/13
Progressive Democrats of America, Stop the Trans-Pacific Partnership, 09/15/13
Avaaz, One Million to Stop the Corporate Death Star, 09/14/12
Flush the TPP, Stop the Global Corporate Coup, 2013
United Students for Fair Trade, Topple the TPP, 2013

http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/trade-policies/tpp-potential-trade-policy-problems/

[Calista241]

76. So, doesn't the final agreement still have to be ratified by the Senate?

Supposedly, once the agreement is negotiated and finalized, it'll be published and we'll get to look at the agreement for a set period of time before a vote.

[Buns_of_Fire]

106. Yes, but with a republican-controlled Senate it's pretty-much a done deal.

I doubt there'll be much trouble peeling off a few CorproDems to get the 60 votes.

The final text will be published, and I'm sure if it's as bad as it looks, it'll be torn apart and analyzed all over the place. And we can jump up and down and scream to the heavens and hold mass self-immolations in the streets, and none of it will matter in the least. The President will have his "legacy," and I guess that's all that matters.

Of course, if it's NOT as bad as it looks like so far, a lot of us (like me) will shortly be looking up new recipes for crow. But I don't think that's going to happen.

[woo me with science]

77. Yep. No more facade.

We know by now the corruption we are dealing with.

What a predictable, manipulative con game by corporate Democrats.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6668324

[840high]

79. I became an Independent - can't take it anymore.

[markpkessinger]

117. At this rate, I might not be far behind you n/t

[840high]

133. ...

[Rex]

93. So you finally decided the grand illusion was too costly? You know the plutocracy can buy

and sell independent votes as well? You have to go beyond the governing elite and go after the non-governing elite that control the three branches of government AND outright own the fourth branch.

The humble person is overcome with the enormity of it all, the scale at which it rests on. The sheer size and scope of the corruption at all levels over decades and decades. With little oversight or care for oversight.

Two reasons, a compliant populace and a corporate enabler in the national press. McAmerica(TM). We've had it since the 80s...just not as in your face as it is now.

We just know now how the process works and are revolted by the pink slime they use as political capital. The majority knows, yet the billion dollar machine makes it's way to keep everyone scatters and polarized.

America is owned and run by CEOs. Not a surprise.

[G_j]

98. so do we think the XL pipeline is also a forgone conclusion?

I hate to even say it..

[MissDeeds]

99. I'm going to wait so I can vote for Bernie

in the primary, then I'm out. This party has had my heart, soul, and complete support all my life, but this is the last straw. Not going to make excuses any longer or hold out hope that it will improve with the next Dem candidate. Bernie Sanders is the only candidate I believe if. If he loses, that's it - I'm done.

[L0oniX]

100. FDR haters have no business calling themselves Democrats.

They aren't Democrats.

[markpkessinger]

118. +1000! n/t

[DCBob]

122. Good grief.. you people are all worked up over something that doesnt even exist yet.

Chill out.

[Aerows]

125. I'm waiting for a rendition of

"Well, I hate it, my constituents hate it, but this is the pragmatic thing to do."

Selling off our resources to labor intensive countries.