An eye opening thread from Free Republic on the TTP.

[sufrommich]

I know a lot of you don't read Free Republic and don't like to see it linked here,but their opposition to TPP may be a sign of a sort of agreement between both left and right that corporate power and government favoritism for those corporations in this country may have reached critical mass:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3289601/posts#comment

[Romeo.lima333]

1. yea looks like we have something in common with the freepers, huh,who knew?

[Amishman]

2. you know something is bad when DU and Free Republic both oppose it

maybe America will wake up and see how the government is not working in their interests.

[MillennialDem]

3. Yet those fools have been corporate slaves and butlers for the rich all along - now they finally

start to see it comes back to bite them.

[djean111]

4. Here is a good one - although doubtless it will be spun as a bad thing.....

““These folks have been proven wrong time after time after time,” Sanders said in a speech on the Senate floor Tuesday. “The TPP would force American workers to compete against desperate workers in Vietnam who make 56 cents an hour. We have got to do better than that.”

geez, my world is upside down. I’m agreeing with Sanders.

And that is how you try to begin to win people over - educate them. With the truth.

Any attempt to spin this as Sanders is a Freeper would be considered hilariously pathetic.

[cali]

5. Maybe. I tend to think that their opposition is rooted in their racism, high octane

loathing of President Obama, extreme xenophobia (They're afraid that it will somehow open the doors to floods of immigrants) and all their all around nativism. I do think that FR now represents a fair chunk of the Republican base, however.

[Cali_Democrat]

15. DU opposition to TPP is based on some of those very same factors. nt

[Autumn]

16. How do you explain the dislike we see here on NAFTA?

Just curious.

[cali]

18. Bullshit. Look, I don't claim that all opposition here to the TPP

is thoughtful or well grounded. Some of it is as emotional and clueless as those supporting it. (and I sure haven't seen that you've immersed yourself in the minutia of it), but I haven't seen opposition to it rooted in racism or xenophobia or racist hate of the President. I personally don't care for suggestions that he stands to benefit personally from the TPP via vague big payoffs post-Presidency, but I don't think believing that indicates hate of the President.

You are saying that ALL of us here opposing this are basing our opposition to it on xenophobia or racism or racist hate toward the President or just plain hate for the President. That's not only false, it's a disgusting charge.

Do tell me, is the NAACP racist and xenophobic? They oppose it.

And put up or... yeah that. Link to threads where those racist, xenophobic sentiments are expressed. That's not calling anyone out.

You haven't just removed all doubt, you've gone a great deal farther than that in revealing yourself.

congrats.

[stevenleser]

6. I'm not sure that means a whole lot. FR folks knee-jerk disagree with anything Obama wants to do.

He could adopt the entire Republican platform and the denizens there would still want all their senators and representatives to oppose everything he does.

[sufrommich]

9. I don't think that's the case here. Although I agree that they

hate Obama with a blind rage. I'm not even sure I think this is about one trade agreement anymore,I think corporations may have overplayed their hand in a country that wants to go back to producing goods and wants cheap products to buy,we won't get both. I'm not sure what the answer is,but corporations constantly threatening to take their business elsewhere if their demands aren't met isn't playing well here and this is the backlash. Who knows what that backlash will produce.

[still_one]

7. I won't go to FR, but I suspect much of their opposition is because Obama is for it.

[MohRokTah]

8. IF a Republican president was negotiating it, they'd love it.

The only reason they hate it is because Obama is doing the negotiations.

[sufrommich]

10. I don't think so, they're angry at republicans too. nt

[MohRokTah]

12. They're angry at Republicans for supporting something Obama is proposing.

Seriously, that's their only beef.

[Octafish]

11. A Republican pretzeldent DID start the TPP negotiations.

In 2008:

http://www.alternet.org/story/156059/trans-pacific_partnership%3A_under_cover_of_darkness,_a_corporate_coup_is_underway

[onecaliberal]

13. It doesn't matter because the bought and paid for congress

Will shove it down our collective throats anyway.

[pampango]

14. The House: TPA "faces problems not just with Democrats but also a sizable number of tea party Republicans.

Now that the Senate has reached a deal to advance legislation key to wrapping up President Barack Obama’s trade agenda, pro-trade groups are quickly turning to the House, where the trade bill faces problems not just with Democrats but also a sizable number of tea party Republicans.

... where most Democrats and as many as 60 Republicans are likely to oppose the legislation to fast-track the passage of trade agreements

http://www.politico.com/morningtrade/?ml=tp

redstate/tea party republicans are all over this. It may have reached 'critical mass' indeed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. I have known of this opposition

for years now. But then again I talk to people of all political stripes in real life. It's healthy you know. Nor do I see them as idiots, or enemies.