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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am done giving money to the national Democratic Party.
I will give to individual candidates I want to support. I'm done with a party that conducts theater in Washington while lives crumble.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)touting Feingold's entry & wanting money. They didn't even say it was going to Russ. I trust them not a whit. Nor a jot. Nor a tittle. Whatever the hell those are.
We sent $50 straight to the Russ campaign.
sendero
(28,552 posts)..... Democratic Craven Con Corps. They are not doing anything at all to advance a progressive agenda. #$%^# 'em
niyad
(113,055 posts)Tittle
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the surname, see Tittle (surname).
Not to be confused with title or tilde.
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Lowercase i and j in Liberation Serif, with tittles in red.
A tittle or superscript dot[1] is a small distinguishing mark, such as a diacritic or the dot on a lowercase i or j. The tittle is an integral part of the glyph of i and j, but diacritic dots can appear over other letters in various languages. In most languages, the tittle of i or j is omitted when a diacritic is placed in the tittle's usual position (as í or ĵ , but not when the diacritic appears elsewhere (as į, ɉ .
The word tittle is scarcely used. Its most prominent occurrence is in the Christian Bible at Matthew 5:18: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled" (KJV). The quotation uses them as an example of extremely minor details. The phrase "jot and tittle" indicates that every small detail has received attention.
In the Greek original translated as English "jot and tittle" are found the words iota and keraia (Greek: κεραία .[2] Iota is the smallest letter of the Greek alphabet (ι . Alternatively, it may represent yodh (י , the smallest letter of the Hebrew and Aramaic alphabets. "Keraia" is a hook or serif, possibly referring to other Greek diacritics, or possibly to the hooks on Hebrew or Aramaic letters, (ב versus (כ , or additional marks such as crowns (e.g. the Vulgate apex) found in the Torah. A keraia is also used in printing modern Greek numerals.
Jot or tittle
Meaning
A tiny amount.
Origin
The phrase 'jot or tittle' is somewhat tautological, as both jot and tittle refer to tiny quantities. It has passed into English via William Tindale's translation of the New Testament in 1526. It appears there in Matthew 5:18:
One iott or one tytle of the lawe shall not scape.
The more familiar language of the King James Version, 1611, renders that verse as:
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
A jot is the name of the least letter of an alphabet or the smallest part of a piece of writing. It is the Anglicized version of the Greek iota - the smallest letter of the Greek alphabet, which corresponds to the Roman 'i'. This, in turn, was derived from the Hebrew word jod, or yodr, which is the the smallest letter of the square Hebrew alphabet. Apart from its specialist typographical meaning, we still use the word jot more generally to mean 'a tiny amount'. Hence, when we have a brief note to make, we 'jot it down'.
jot or tittleA tittle, rather appropriately for a word which sounds like a combination of tiny and little, is smaller still. It refers to a small stroke or point in writing or printing. In classical Latin this applied to any accent over a letter, but is now most commonly used as the name for the dot over the letter 'i'. It is also the name of the dots on dice. In medieval calligraphy the tittle was written as quite large relative to the stem of the 'i'. Since fixed typeface printing was introduced in the 15th century the tittle has been rendered smaller.
The use of the word 'dot' as a small written mark didn't begin until the 18th century. We may have been told at school to dot our i's; Chaucer and Shakespeare would have been told to tittle them.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/jot-or-tittle.html
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Response to Cryptoad (Reply #18)
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marym625
(17,997 posts)Oops
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)I love learning things like this - thank you for posting, and may all your j's be tittled....
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tittle
So not a little tit.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I decided many years ago to no longer give to political campaigns.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)I like my money going to particular candidates I support both on the national and local level.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)elleng
(130,732 posts)ONLY to individual candidates.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)You know...people I can actually talk to in person.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)daredtowork
(3,732 posts)despite the continuous email spam. It's all about courting the billion dollar donors now. Ever since Citizens United, money = speech.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)that has become today. It's only about money today, just another line of business and screw the citizens. We're just in the way with no voice.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)You DO realize that the DNC's roll is largely Party Building at the State level? I seem to recall outrage that we had given up on the "50 State Strategy". Will you be contribute to 50 State Parties now?
Anyway, I'm already in $10 K for the DCCC, $6 K for DSCC and $5 K for Clinton. Lots more races to go.
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)both local and national groups.
Many cannot afford to give as you do, so it's good to know that someone who can is stepping up, and has no regrets.
bullsnarfle
(254 posts)Tallahassee is stuffed clean-through with republicans. The FL congress is just one big fat rubber stamp for the repub governor de jour.
Before last gubernatorial election, Gov. Voldemort was polling only slightly higher than ebola. I was really stoked, figured the dems could run just about anybody worth half-a-damn and beat his ass.
So who did they run? Charlie Freakin' Crist, recycled repub!!!
I mean, what the hell, man? Are they just stupid or on some really bad drugs?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They're more concerned with keeping their spots at the corporate feed trough than defeating the republicans.
think
(11,641 posts)Allison Tant Richards was a lobbyist for company that got paid for purging felons (And accidentally including many voters that weren't felons) from the voting rolls in 2000:
http://thepoliticalhurricane.com/2012/12/19/breaking-news-allison-tant-was-lobbyist-for-firm-that-purged-african-americans-from-voter-rolls-in-2000/
Apparently she is very good friends with Debbie Wasserman Schultz who along with Democratic Senator Bill Nelson helped get her into the chair:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/allison-tant-elected-chairwoman-of-florida-democratic-party/1272419
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)daredtowork
(3,732 posts)brooklynite
(94,333 posts)...but what I DO enjoy are the private breakfasts, coffees etc; me, my wife and the candidate chatting about issues and campaign strategies.
frylock
(34,825 posts)brooklynite
(94,333 posts)Maybe I don't self-righteously tell everyone that I'll NEVER give money to (candidate or committee you don't like).
eloydude
(376 posts)Ive got mine so f*** you tude. People like you is what pisses people like me off. It is that 'tude that makes people run for Bernie.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,154 posts)But I think it just decodes all DCCC secret messages as "Drink your Ovaltine and send us more money. You can skip the Ovaltine if you want."
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)and why it is unlikely to get better any time soon.
one dollar, one vote.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)...until I can get candidates elected who will change the system. Because the people they're running against definitely won't.
Agony
(2,605 posts)I trust that you will keep us informed as your dollars shape the Democratic Party into a mean machine fighting for ordinary working people and civil and economic justice.
I look forward to your reports?
Cheers
Agony
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)The more that poster talks, the more you realize they aren't even for the things you just mentioned. And, for gosh sakes, don't EVER forget how rich they are. Don't worry. They won't let you forget. They like to brag about it every time they turn around.
Agony
(2,605 posts)looking back at what i wrote I had to laugh!
What WAS I thinking?!
Response to brooklynite (Reply #47)
1000words This message was self-deleted by its author.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)and vip attitude
eloydude
(376 posts)Sory to say, but DCCC or the DNC has done shit for the 99% and you just confirmed that you are among the 1% and have no idea what the hell you are talking about. HAS. Remember?
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Wish the rest of us had some too.
Thanks for letting us know just how much money you have, though. I definitely didn't know you were rich. Certainly not like you use every chance you get to rub it in our poor proletariat faces.
Have a nice day, and say hi to all the corporate bigwigs for me next time you're hanging out with your bff Hillary!
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)$42 Million.
She raised it because, while we'd all like publicly funded campaigns, we don't have them at present, and absent a change in the Supreme Court, we won't be having it in the near future. She raised it because she new Scott Brown and the Republicans would raise the same scale of funds to try and hold his Senate seat.
The money came from grassroots donors AND from 1%ers like me AND from the DSCC. Yes, there are plenty of wealthy Democrats who are happy to elect a progressive WHEN THAT PROGRESSIVE is electable. That means Massachusetts is worth an investment and Indiana is not. The same principles apply to how the DSCC funds campaigns. They could care less if Alan Grayson is a leftist firebrand, as long as he can get elected in a State that elected Marco Rubio and Rick Scott.
So throw all the disdain you want at me and at the Party. But in the meantime, better get your wallet out for the candidates you considers ideologically pure enough. Because this is the real world, and the Republicans will be playing by real world rules.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Goes directly to local activists. I do not support the Democratic Party financially because about 50%+ of the time, they use it to screw me over. I prefer to support those that are making significant changes on a local level, and also to support my community.
I'm doing my best to change the system so that money isn't an issue anymore.
My problem is not your money. It's your need to show off to the people here just how much you have. Your flashing of your donations and contributions is obnoxious to those of us who don't have the money to shrug off 5-digit donations. To some of us, a $20 donation from those who don't have it to spare is far more impressive.
That's not the only problem I have with you, though. You constantly brag about your connections and influence with high level politicians. Those of us who don't have that money don't get that kind of access. Our concerns our not heard in the same way yours are, and that is a pity. You may think your connections are impressive, but they are downright insulting to many of us.
You are insulated, crass, and exemplify the problems of money in politics.
Edit to add one other thing: that you consider donating to politicians an "investment" is telling. You may not realize it, and I am sure you disagree, but your language says a lot about you. It's not good.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I've heard the line that money "only" buys access - well, that's more than most of us have.
Although I must say, from personal experience, that access at the lower levels is not that hard to get - donate to candidates below president, senator, and governor, go to events and meetings, visit offices.
I visited my congressperson's local office recently and received red-carpet treatment. (He's a right-wing jerk, but somehow he manages to hire great people.) Still, that doesn't mean what I had to say had any effect - I'm sure it didn't. Oh well, I tried...
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)They give you "access", just like voting gives you "control". They treat you real nice, then stab you in the back later.
I'll bet that those private, friendly brunches that those with money are allowed into have significantly different results.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I can't think of any particular reason I should trust them to reinstate it.
Plus your quotation of $$ amounts just reinforces the "money talks" assertions, although I doubt the amounts you quote talk very loudly. Happy for you that you can afford it, though.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Freudian slip, anyone?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling
PosterChild
(1,307 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)" it makes you look like such a beautiful soul!"
As does the petulance you hide behind.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Based on your sig line LW, & the FDR icon, you might like this post~
Toni Morrison - "The New Progressive Agenda: A Return to Citizenship"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778024
...Not being snarky, or petulant, I really think you'll like it.
~Riverlover, proud FDR Dem
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)No way will I be a useful idiot to the "DLC Inc" machine.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)dpatbrown
(368 posts)What took you so long. I quit the dems when they shamelessly voted to invade Iraq. They are very
superficial.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Article is a couple years old but I don't see why anything should change.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)"if my candidates can't win ,,, i'll take my ball and go home"...This type of attitude is mostly to blame for the demise of progressive-ism in this country.
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)Not giving to the national party means exactly what I said. I've already given money directly to Bernie. Please spare me from acting as though you know what I do with my money.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)"If the national organization is not doing the job I think it should do, I will give my money where I believe it will be better used." Sounds reasonable to me.
And, after all, people who give *any* political money are in the minority. (I tried to search the exact percentage of the general population that gives political money, but all I got on the first page was links to statistics about the 1% - telling, eh?)
I think it's little enough to expect that any political donors (even the small ones) get to decide how they give, and to express opinions about it.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)K&R
marym625
(17,997 posts)Same here
The exclusion clause with the debates in the DNC is bullshit as well.
Done with the National party and their games
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)taking the party where I want it, and the DNC spoons out the same BS. Millions upon millions of people are hurting in this country and the DNC just sails along business as usual.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Are we supposed to give them money so they won't dun us for money next time? When will that next time occur?
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Animal shelter/rescues and the USO get any significant money that I am able to donate
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)The politicians and the money people they work for do have a lot of influence on the way things work, for good or bad.
USO, for example. I'm all for them, and other organizations of that sort, but I'm left with the burning question: "Why isn't our *government* taking care of our military personnel and veterans?"
It matters how our government works, in more cases than just my one example.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)then spending the money effectively. The military would very much like to close and consolidate bases here in the US, but the politicians fight against that because of the job losses it would create in their own state. It doesn't matter to the politician that closing or consolidation might save the US as a whole more money then what is being spent to keep the base open.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)You're always going to get the human, self-interest factor. I just hope for things to improve, someday.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I only donate to individual candidates too.
I give directly to progressives. Period.
If nothing else, it proved they were stupid. (Or con artists.) That was an act of political suicide if ever I saw one.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
IVoteDFL
(417 posts)I donate to the Minnesota DFL and candidates I believe in.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)is helping me put my piddly $50 donations into perspective-they don't mean squat I guess. I never get to chat or have coffee with any candidates because I can't 'pony up' real money, I guess. I did share some corn on the cob with my Congress Critter once, and did host our Democratic Senator (he's running again and WILL win) at my B & B, but I don't have $10,000 to spare for him, so I should just not bother?
aspirant
(3,533 posts)it's just their way of vacuuming up as many dollars as they can so our Populist candidates have less available to them.
They are Corporatists swimming in Corporate money.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)BainsBane
(53,012 posts)I donate my time and canvass heavily in GOTV efforts. When Obama first ran, I was unemployed. I volunteered but had no money to donate. The second time he ran, I could tell he had plenty from sources far better heeled than myself. I wouldn't give to the party under any circumstances. I never have, except on my state tax return when I indicate $5 for the DFL, the MN state version of the Democratic party. I might give to individual candidates if they are facing a monetary disadvantage and need it.
However, I'm ultimately for public financing and don't like the whole concept of private donations to candidates.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... is Bernie Sanders. He will get all I can give, both time and money.
The rest of the Kabuki players can borrow from their bankster owners.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts).... they don't need it. ( i.e. your... or MY... 50 bucks or so.).
In the second, they don't deserve it.
I've been ignoring DNC pitches since around 2004.
Donate to individual candidates that need and DESERVE the money.