Truck drivers voting for todays Repub/Teaparty

[randys1]

Where do I begin, oh, I know

Do you think you would have an interstate highway system to fucking DRIVE on if IKE was anything like today's Republicans/teaparty?




Heard one of the brain surgeons call into radio program today, adamant about not voting for any Democrat and adamant to vote for someone who hates the federal government, who would NOT build a highway today if they had to.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[world wide wally]

1. My Father was a truck driver and devoted Democrat. He revered FDR

He would gag at these jokes driving today

[rurallib]

2. is there a link to a story about this?

wondering what percentages and especially the reasoning.

[randys1]

5. Not sure what you mean. I was listening to yet another truck driver, who loves the teaparty

call into a radio show saying he would never vote for a democrat, that he is a teapartier.

Todays teaparty hates the govt and refuses to allow the govt to spend a DIME on infrastructure

IKE (Eisenhower, also a Republican) signed the highway act and the only reason these dumbshits have highways to drive on is a republican who thought govt SHOULD spend money on our country and infrastructure

[rurallib]

9. Ok thanks

Sometimes folks go on a rant without telling us what the spark was that lit the fuse. If it was an article you had read I would be quite interested in what all it had to say.

The other one that gets me is laborers that vote for Republicans. Usually the reasoning has to do with "pro life" or "freedoms" or some unknown bogey man in the shadows that only the baggers can save us from. They make me want to puke voting against their own interests.

As for Ike - well he, TR and Lincoln are the only decent Republican preses. Period.

[GeorgeGist]

23. Well Ike did sell it as a military necessity.

[Volaris]

27. That's because

the same class of Fuckwits existed then, as well, and Ike knew it would be the only way to convince them it was a good idea. It HAD become imperative to move military and other government equipment/ personelle across the country quickly, given the foreign policy we had adopted relative to the Soviet Union (and Ike had been impressed by the infrastructure of Nazi Germany) but Ike was also not stupid and understood its impact on the private sector and national economy.
But "if we build it, they will come" wasn't gonna be enough for the aforementioned Fuckwit Class, so Ike just said "Because Commies", and they all barked their approval like drunk Seals.

[RKP5637]

29. The old time republicans you could work with way back. My father was a strong democratic

politician. A lot of his friends were republicans. They knew they had differences and they also knew they needed to broker solutions that were good for the country.

Today's republicans are a bunch of damn ignorant fools. My grandfather was a strong republican eons ago, and he was responsible for getting a lot of highways built. He wanted a better country.

These damn republicans today are shit-headed fools. They bring little to the table in terms of solutions for betterment of the country. They are disruptors and of little value for betterment of the country. I wish the F Americans would wake up. It's like many Americans today have a death wish for the country when they vote.

And today's lineup of republican presidential hopefuls are an embarrassment to mankind!

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Boy,ain't that the truth.

Did a few years as dock Master,surprised some of these so called professional truck drivers could fine their asses with both hands and a map and flash light. Amazing,they are all one injury from the poor house,most don't have two nickels to rub together.

[Fumesucker]

4. Yeah, poor people are the pits

If they were so smart they'd be rich, eh?

[randys1]

6. I know many poor people who dont go out of their way to vote against their literal

survival.

[Fumesucker]

7. Eh, I'm just tired of the constant slams on poor people

Including the one I just replied to.

Hapless fuckers are stuck in a truck cab with nothing to listen to but right wing radio over about 90% of this country and you expect them to come out raging liberals.

I listened to to RW radio for years and all it did was make me more liberal but that's not the way it works on most people, that shit is insidious and designed to make you angry because anger is addicting and will keep you coming back for more. Anger is what you use to stay awake at three AM on a deserted highway, it's an old friend who helps you get your boring ass job done.

[randys1]

8. Everything you said can be true, and at the same time these people are causing

great harm with their ignorance and their votes.

We are looking at mass death and relocation from climate change, something they deny and they demand our politicians deny.

We are looking at people losing their healthcare, destruction of social security, LIFE AND DEATH stuff

So while I admit these people know not what they do and all that, we are beyond that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. I got a question for ya

how do you reach them?

Thinking they are stupid is not going to win you friends. Blaming them is not going to win you friends.

So how do you reach these folks?

By the way, most truck drivers are not poor either, they are anywhere from lower middle class to middle class, still, even when they drive (rarely) their own rigs. Now if you are patient, and you listen to their gripes, and don't judge, you might get their anger and see how they actually, from time to time, have a point. If you want to talk to people and even change how people think, that is a good starting place, try to understand why. Many a times their gripes are misplaced... (in some cases most of the time), but you calling them idiots is not going to get you any friends.

I talk to actual real poor people who don't vote becuase they feel they were either abandoned by all pols (and they have a point, especially in my inner city, but I got the feeling this is happening all over), or quite frankly have no time for that shit. Three jobs don't give you time to go vote, let alone get to know your candidates.

I will add a pro tip here. Many of the people who call talk radio are not what they seem, or what they present themselves as. They are professional operatives with talking points. It is kind of funny when you hear the exact same person calling three different shows presenting three different jobs.

One, I remember him clearly from the road to war, called two different progressive shows, and in one was a rabid pro war republican, and the other a rabid anti war liberal. Same exact person. The screener I guess noticed and that led to some of the most amusing radio I have ever heard.

[randys1]

11. I didnt say they were poor, did I? In that they vote against their self yes, but beside that

I know way too many of these people, and I have never seen one change their mind OTHER than the famous one who said without ACA his life would be fucked, was in the news

so UNTIL it effects them, they dont care

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Don't worry, the dismissal and thiking that you will never change your views

is mutual.

I get to talk to people from multiple social strata and political viewpoints. It is actually a good and healthy thing to do... but whatever.

I am happy I do not think my fellow Americans are selfish (They think that of you) and vote against their best interests (ditto)... and until it affects you, you don;t care... yap they think that about you as well.

I got a theory, one reason we cannot have nice things is because our disagreement has morphed into disdain and at times hate. Some here are shocked that some Republicans in the house are against TPP... I am not. It does not shock me in the least. But I listen.

And until people start doing that, we as a nation are fucked... and those in power will continue to win.

But hey... what can I say? I even know why partisans do what they do. It is biology after all.

[Dont call me Shirley]

18. Thom Hartmann is an excellent example on how to talk with the conservative.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Yup

[Fumesucker]

12. I was talking about using someone's lack of financial clout as a pivot for an attack

I used to think that was a characteristic argument of right wingers, I've since learned plenty of liberals will use the same ugly tactic.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Yup, partisans do what partisans are

[randys1]

15. Ahh yes, i see i have wasted my time here...the truth is what is mainly behind the mean

rightwinger, truck driver or otherwise, is this

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." ~
LYNDON B. JOHNSON, 1960, remark to Bill Moyers, "What a Real President Was Like," Washington Post, 13 November 1988

[Fumesucker]

16. My argument wasn't even with you if you go back and look at the thread

You started defending someone else's comments regarding using people's lack of finances as a point to attack them.

Where I live there are more than a few black truck drivers, perhaps it's different in your part of the country.

[randys1]

17. two of you started lecturing about how we need to reason with these people, i dont think that

is possible with the people I am talking about

the ones who live by the LBJ comment

I think they are past reason

[Fumesucker]

20. Actually my initial comment was sarcasm and not a lecture in any way shape or form..

"If they were so smart they'd be rich."

[randys1]

21. sorry

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. I did not lecture either

I asked a question

But hey, I will just not bother with his future posts either.

[Wellstone ruled]

26. What really rips when we did organizing

drives at many of these Terminals was the hatred for a better life and a secure future. These Men and Women are as hard working and honest as the day is long. Some were some one really messed up their thinking process. It sure is a shame how these so called independent owner operators are treated and screwed over by their Companies. My opinion is,every driver deserves a fair hourly wage and overtime after eight hours as well as fully paid Health and Welfare plan with a pension. See to many folks played one against other.

[Trajan]

28. That wasn't technically a slam ...

I think you got in the wrong tangent with this one. ..

The poster related that the right winger truck drivers doesn't have a pot to piss in and yet still voted against their own interest ...

Where did you see a slur against the poor?

[CK_John]

24. Driveless convoys are already being used in Spain and Germany so the teabagers can do them

no harm or any good. Productivity (technology) has already put them in the driverless truck stop.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

25. I heard the same from union workers in the plant I was at

Especially when "Obamacare" was in its first year. What a terrible thing, making everyone have insurance. This from a group of guys whose fine health insurance is heavily subsidized by the company.

Everything we have at a big factory, whether we're union or not, trickles down like blood from a union organizers scalp.

From a newly retired Bozo, formerly UAW, formerly IBoT.

[LiberalLoner]

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