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Stranded on a desert island: Which 4 would you choose? (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries May 2015 OP
I think you've about got it correct. longship May 2015 #1
Yeah, talk about resourceful Cal Carpenter May 2015 #25
I got turned off by the initial survival Warpy May 2015 #77
Well, there would not have been a novel if he didn't survive initially. longship May 2015 #80
Yes, but there had to be a better way than explosive decompression Warpy May 2015 #95
Well, did you read beyond the first chapter? longship May 2015 #100
I think I got to 4 or 5 before I got sidetracked. Warpy May 2015 #106
It is like Star Trek. longship May 2015 #107
Well, more like the transporter, Warpy May 2015 #110
That's the best book I've read this year - TBF May 2015 #89
first aid kit, water purifier, knife and matches cali May 2015 #2
The mirror by far Omnith May 2015 #3
Flare gun much better!! nt Logical May 2015 #37
Matches give you fire to create smoke B2G May 2015 #40
How many matches? Travis_0004 May 2015 #43
Hence my tent. B2G May 2015 #47
Water purifier, knife, mirror malaise May 2015 #4
I thought about matches, Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #5
you changed your cats! The one on the left is so funny. KittyWampus May 2015 #22
True - I need my matches malaise May 2015 #96
Knife, matches, tarp, flare gun Scootaloo May 2015 #6
Good ideas. Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #7
Spend enough time in the woods, you pick some things up Scootaloo May 2015 #8
Mirror signals AND helps build a fire. ChairmanAgnostic May 2015 #10
Mirror won't help build a fire Scootaloo May 2015 #11
Hmmm BigDemVoter May 2015 #9
knife, rope, pot, boots blogslut May 2015 #12
Mirror, knife, tent, water purifier n/t Jeroen May 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #14
Lol! Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #15
up until the ipod battery dies…. KittyWampus May 2015 #24
You'll need a solar power connection to charge your ipod battery. Initech May 2015 #51
That makes me laugh libodem May 2015 #54
rofl! Tsiyu May 2015 #84
ROFL malaise May 2015 #102
The only two I might substitute from your list... Although, you've chosen wisely. Hugin May 2015 #16
Assuming I expected to wait to be found: bemildred May 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author RadiationTherapy May 2015 #18
I would choose edhopper May 2015 #19
Having seen your choices, I couldn't find any better four davidpdx May 2015 #20
That's what the ocean is for Yupster May 2015 #75
As long as I don't have to use my hand davidpdx May 2015 #83
Tarp, handsaw, rope, knife The2ndWheel May 2015 #21
After due consideration: avebury May 2015 #23
A mirror has to be concave to start a fire. nt Quixote1818 May 2015 #93
Why not a flare gun? nt Logical May 2015 #26
Are there seeds in the weed? Taitertots May 2015 #27
Lol! That was my thought, too. OnionPatch May 2015 #86
Knife, Matches, Fishing Rod, Tarp truebluegreen May 2015 #28
Ipod. Turbineguy May 2015 #29
Does the weed have seeds? n/t brewens May 2015 #30
Water purifier NV Whino May 2015 #31
It depends, do I have a chance for rescue.... daleanime May 2015 #32
Water purifier, knife, tarp, mirror. Marr May 2015 #33
Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Lawrence Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #34
I imagine they would not enjoy your company. Probably kill you. nt Logical May 2015 #38
knife, pot, first aid kit, matches. dilby May 2015 #35
Boiling salt water does not make it drinkable. Travis_0004 May 2015 #44
Yeah would never expect to boil seawater. dilby May 2015 #68
Thatch will collect water and run it off too. nolabear May 2015 #73
Depends on the nature of the island. NuclearDem May 2015 #36
Yep jberryhill May 2015 #111
Tent, water purifier, knife, matches B2G May 2015 #39
No duct tape or WD40??? catnhatnh May 2015 #41
pot, tent, knife, matches Marrah_G May 2015 #42
Tarp, pot, fishing rod, boots XemaSab May 2015 #45
Alternate suggestion: raft, fishing rod, water purifier, flare gun XemaSab May 2015 #46
Looks like I'm the only tent person B2G May 2015 #48
Hand saw, rope, matches and First Aid Kit... fadedrose May 2015 #49
Tarp, Knife, Compass, and Rope Jamastiene May 2015 #50
You can learn directions from the stars, sun, etc. nt Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #82
True. Jamastiene May 2015 #94
OK, I'll play-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #52
why is beer not on this list? giftedgirl77 May 2015 #53
Flare gun, first aid kit, knife, water purifier applegrove May 2015 #55
Would have to go with the gun imnew May 2015 #56
Trade the Water Purifier for the cast iron pot. bvar22 May 2015 #57
I agree, also if you find a spring you don't need to purifie the water Quixote1818 May 2015 #92
Tarp, Knife, matches, pot Calista241 May 2015 #58
My choice would be Aerows May 2015 #59
Boots, saw, raft and matches. TeeYiYi May 2015 #60
the mirror is most important for rescue. I would choose mirror, matches, first aid kit, hammock Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #61
For me Zo Zig May 2015 #62
Tent, first aid kit, matches, knife mvd May 2015 #63
Can you pick the same thing four times? panader0 May 2015 #64
Pot, knife, tarp, rope Arugula Latte May 2015 #65
4 volleyballs. zappaman May 2015 #66
tarp, knife, water purifier, matches. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #67
Pot, water purifier, tarp, knife Exilednight May 2015 #69
How big is the island and where is it located, temperature, other land masses, etc? uppityperson May 2015 #70
Knife, matches, rope. I thought it was just three. morningfog May 2015 #71
Pot, fishing rod, knife, matches nolabear May 2015 #72
tent, knife, ohheckyeah May 2015 #74
Knife, tarp, first aid kit, anything else optional Warpy May 2015 #76
The obvious question here is bluegopher May 2015 #78
I ain't surviving shit out in the wild Islandurp May 2015 #79
Tarp, water purifier, knife, and first aid kit. KitSileya May 2015 #81
Tarp, fishing pole, knife and raft jmowreader May 2015 #85
iPod, hammock, weed, water purifier. Fuck it. I'm chillin'. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #87
Raft, flashlight, sunscreen & flare gun - TBF May 2015 #88
Would depend on the Island. Size of Island? Trees? Hills? Types of Folra? Cave? BlueJazz May 2015 #90
knife, flare gun, pot, saw. Not the water purifier since I have a pot Quixote1818 May 2015 #91
Before I answer...what kind of pot??? nt U4ikLefty May 2015 #97
Rope, knife, tent and matches nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #98
Weed, matches, hammock, and ipod. AtomicKitten May 2015 #99
Some of it would depend on the flora and fauna of the island. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #101
Knife, rope, matches, first-aid kit. Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #103
. AuntPatsy May 2015 #104
fishing rod, knife, raft, water purifier Kip Humphrey May 2015 #105
Why is there not a towel on this list ;) Hestia May 2015 #108
Tarp, Pot, Hiking Boots, Hand Saw. CK_John May 2015 #109
what good is a fishing rod without hooks? I would want a first aid B Calm May 2015 #112
Rod, Knife, Matches ileus May 2015 #113
survival objets mayanlongcount Jul 2015 #114

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. I think you've about got it correct.
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:17 AM
May 2015

BTW, I recommend the novel The Martian by Andy Weir, about a guy stranded on a desert island, namely Mars. It is a very good read. Very geeky. Weir even calculated Earth to Mars and back trajectories to make the story more realistic.

The book was like another on anti-gravity I read recently. I could not put it down.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
25. Yeah, talk about resourceful
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:24 AM
May 2015

I really enjoyed that book too. I tend to read heavier stuff, and it was great to read about a guy stranded alone on Mars without the existential angst one may expect. I LOLed a lot.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
77. I got turned off by the initial survival
Sun May 17, 2015, 02:45 AM
May 2015

which would not have happened, he'd have been dead as a doornail.

I did enjoy his soil building adventures.

longship

(40,416 posts)
80. Well, there would not have been a novel if he didn't survive initially.
Sun May 17, 2015, 03:47 AM
May 2015

I did rather like the book.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
95. Yes, but there had to be a better way than explosive decompression
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:39 PM
May 2015

stopped just in time by a blood clot. Gimme a break, man. He'd have been dead instantly as gases boiled out of his blood and caused air emboli and blood takes time to clot, too much time to save him.

longship

(40,416 posts)
100. Well, did you read beyond the first chapter?
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:44 PM
May 2015
just kidding.

All told, I think the novel is fairly scientifically accurate. I read it twice in a row, so I got a good view of how the narrative pans out. I certainly wasn't going to put it down because blood clots would be slower in real life.

Funny, it reminds me of a SciFi movie of earlier years,


Kind of the same theme.

My best to you.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
106. I think I got to 4 or 5 before I got sidetracked.
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:46 PM
May 2015

I'll probably pick it up again soon and finish it.

longship

(40,416 posts)
107. It is like Star Trek.
Sun May 17, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

Once you get past the Warp Drive, which is just a plot tool to get the Enterprise to the next scene after the commercial, the rest of the narrative falls into place.

Here's the deal with "The Martian". If Mark Watney does not survive the first scene, there is no book. So give Weir a break and keep reading. It is a damned good read, and Weir generally gets the science dead on right.

My best to you.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
110. Well, more like the transporter,
Sun May 17, 2015, 10:36 PM
May 2015

it turns out warp drive is theoretically possible, at least on a small scale.

The first scene just annoyed me, one reason I finally set it aside for a while. It could have been done a little more believably, like a fall down a cliff without decompression, companions leaving because no one could survive a fall down that big a cliff, not taking lower gravity into account.

Omnith

(171 posts)
3. The mirror by far
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:23 AM
May 2015

Is the most important survival item on the list (used to get noticed by plains or ships) I would also get water purifier, matches and pot.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
43. How many matches?
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:02 AM
May 2015

They dont last forever, and have to stay dry. A mirror can signal a plane, or reflect the sun to start a fire.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
47. Hence my tent.
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

Once you get fire, you keep it going barring a major downpour.

I seriously doubt I could start a fire with a mirror.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Knife, matches, tarp, flare gun
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:36 AM
May 2015

Knife - sheer utility

matches - gottahave fire.

Tarp - shelter and utility

flare gun - best chance of getting off the island.

Why no water purifier? Well, assuming that we're talking an island like "castaway", then the primary source of water will be rain. Possibly coconuts or fish blood. The purifier can't clear salt or urine toxins, so is basically wasted luggage. If on the otherh nad hte island's main source of water is still lakes or ponds, then it's in.

Why no first-aid kit? Look at the first-aid kit you have lying around. It's first aid to provide immediate treatment before getting to someone who can do better. if you're alone, then a first aid kit, while better than nothing, isn't going ot do a world of good. However, it's "iffy" purely because there's no beating antiseptics - but you'll run out eventually. better to use hte flare gun to get off the island!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Spend enough time in the woods, you pick some things up
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:45 AM
May 2015

99% of the time, the stuff in your first aid kit is going to be more useful as tinder (gauze is lovly at that job.) The remaining 1% of hte time, in a strict survival setting, well, you're screwed even if you have the first aid stuff. A first aid kit gives you a sling for that broken arm, but you've still got a broken arm. and you could make a sling out of that tarp. Or your clothing.

Dem antiseptics, tho. A cut on your hand could be even worse than that broken arm. Given the option, I'd trde matches for antiseptics.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. Mirror won't help build a fire
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:53 AM
May 2015

That's a magnifying glass. A mirror could be helpful for signalling, but could be mistaken for any number of shiny things floating around. a flare is obviously deliberate, and is understood to mean distress

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
9. Hmmm
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:46 AM
May 2015

mirror for several different uses (can use to start a fire)
knife--
pot--can use to boil water to purify and to cook
hand saw--build shelter

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
84. rofl!
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:39 AM
May 2015

I'd pick the pot (kettle), the tent, the first aid kit and the pot.

The kettle can be used to boil stuff and hold purified water or foodstuffs covered so that critters can't get to it, the first aid kit as shown is gonna have all sorts of goodies, like a small knife you can attach to a stick with tape, and string for fishing, just all sorts of potential there.

The tent provides shelter at first, then the tent poles can be detached for fishing poles or to hold other materials once the tent fabric degrades. The tent fly can catch rainwater, the metal rings and other parts can be used for other stuff.

The weed is to keep me from completely losing my mind, and it can help with pain management once the meds run out in the kit. But realistically, I'd probably pick the knife. But it would be a tough choice.

Fun exercise.

Hugin

(33,133 posts)
16. The only two I might substitute from your list... Although, you've chosen wisely.
Sat May 16, 2015, 08:50 AM
May 2015

The primary uses of all of these items are obvious. So, the next step is to think of secondary and tertiary uses of the items and their constituent components.

Right?

1) The handsaw for the knife.

On most desert islands "hard" things or things that out "harden" most of what you will be surrounded by are very rare. Mostly, a knife will be used for cutting and prying. A saw offers this as well, but, it's bigger and would allow for the shaping of more things. Felling palm trees for shelter and fire for instance. A knife is good, but, the saw might be better.

2) Either the hammock or the rubber raft in place of the tarp.

This is a case of the sum of parts may be greater than the whole. Shade would be a big issue. Spending only a short time in direct sunlight and all else becomes moot, because you won't survive. The hammock and the raft can both supply this. In addition the hammock presumably also includes rope which can be used for other things. Now, the raft could also provide rope, shelter, and later water. Initially, your choice of the water purifier is an excellent one. There's a reason they are called desert islands and it's not all because they are deserted. There is no water! The water purifier will last for awhile, but, later when it becomes clogged with use you will have to find some way of purifying water using other methods. A rubber raft could be used to purify water by evaporate distilling. Things to think about.

I hope the first aid kit comes with some antibiotics. Infection is a killer!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. Assuming I expected to wait to be found:
Sat May 16, 2015, 08:51 AM
May 2015

Knife -- defense, general purpose tool/utensil
Matches -- signal fires, cooking, warmth, sometimes you really need to get warm
First Aid kit -- antiseptic

Everything else looks situational, you might want that raft and flare if you plan to leave.

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. Having seen your choices, I couldn't find any better four
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:00 AM
May 2015

Those make sense. Wiping our asses is going to be a problem though.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
21. Tarp, handsaw, rope, knife
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:08 AM
May 2015

Tarp - versatile
Handsaw - easier to cut wood, thus making other things to use
Rope - when isn't rope useful?
Knife - see rope

avebury

(10,952 posts)
23. After due consideration:
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:19 AM
May 2015

water purifier, knife, 1st aid kit and mirror.

I am thinking that the mirror could be used as a signaling device and maybe to start a fire so you might be able to do without the matches.

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
86. Lol! That was my thought, too.
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:10 AM
May 2015

I hope it's a good climate for crops. And I'd need the matches for sure. Of course I could also boil water if I had matches, so I'd nix the water purifier and take the tent instead. And then either the fishing pole or rifle, depending on what sort of game I thought was around.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
32. It depends, do I have a chance for rescue....
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:47 AM
May 2015

Last edited Sat May 16, 2015, 11:18 AM - Edit history (1)

or am I there forever?

Do I know any thing about the climate or landscape of the island? What's the wildlife consist of?

If no rescue is happening, both the knife and the handsaw become essential. Having them will allow you to start crafting other items. If fresh water is available, you take the pot, boil your drinking water and learn to make soup. Tent could be used either as shelter, or cannibalize it for parts.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
35. knife, pot, first aid kit, matches.
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:52 AM
May 2015

I decided to go with items that can all be used for more than one purpose. The knife being the most essential since it literally can be used for hundreds of things in a survival situation. I next went with the pot over the water purifier, the purifier is not going to be able to make sea water drinkable and eventually you need to change the filter on it. The pot can be used to collect and store water along with boiling it to make it drinkable. It can also be used for cooking. First aid kit looked like a Good pick from the picture because it looks to be filled with items that can be used for multiple purposes but would try to save them for what they were intended for. Finally matches because I don't want to spend hours trying to get a fire started and a fire can be used to cook food, boil water, stay warm and signal ships and planes.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
44. Boiling salt water does not make it drinkable.
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:14 AM
May 2015

If you boiled it, collected the evorapation, then you can drink that. Put the tarp over the pot, so the highest spot of the tarp is away from the boiling pot and over a homade bowl. Then pure water evorapates and cools and falls into the bowl.

Im not sure how to do it without a tarp.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
68. Yeah would never expect to boil seawater.
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:17 PM
May 2015

A lot of effort for the amount of water, you could make a still with the pot but it requires a string and a cup. Basically take the pot put seawater in it and then take a string tie it to the handle of the lid of the pot, and the tie a cup to the other end of the string. The string and cup need to hang shorter than the amount of water in the pot. You place the lid upside down over the pot with the cup hanging in the center, while the seawater evaporates it collects on the top of the upside down lid, travels down the string and into the cup. Problem is your pot is full of salt and basically useless for anything else now. If it was my only choice i would do it but since you are near the ocean I would make an honest attempt to just use it to collect condensation or natural water that falls on the island or water that may be available in a well that could be dug.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
73. Thatch will collect water and run it off too.
Sun May 17, 2015, 01:13 AM
May 2015

With a good knife you can weave thatch from palm fronds.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
36. Depends on the nature of the island.
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:07 AM
May 2015

Foliage, terrain, animal life, and climate, among other things.

1) Knife - in this situation I would actually prefer a hatchet, since it's not as unwieldy as a saw and useful for more fine control or self-defense like a knife while still being useful for procuring firewood.

Still, knife is plenty useful for fashioning most sorts of tools and for preparing food.

2) First aid kit - should go without saying. Yes, one can fashion splints, dressing, and bandages without it, but disinfectant, gauze, antivenom, and more specialized medical equipment is potentially life-saving.

3) Tarp - good enough for a shelter. Only real need for a tent would be for dealing with a serious insect population. Depending on the size it can be cut up and used for all sorts of things.

4) Flare gun - unmistakeable distress signal. A flash from a mirror could be interpreted as any number of things reflecting light and ground markings might not be visible at certain altitudes and do nothing to alert ships.

Now, the reasons why I didn't choose other things:

Sunscreen - not essential, I don't burn easily.

Toilet paper - nicety, not a necessity. Potentially useful as dressing, though.

Pot - wouldn't be cooking anything complex enough to justify it, and plenty of things can be fashioned to hold water.

iPod - Nicety, not a necessity.

Hiking boots - agonized a bit over whether to take these or not. Since I typically wear my own boots most of the time anyway, I figured not, but they'd be useful on an island with tougher terrain or heavy rainfall.

Hand saw - only real use is for harvesting wood, and it's not even entirely necessary for that. Knife fulfills the role of sharp utensil.

Inflatable raft - only really useful if a ship is nearby, and in that case, flare gun is more viable for alerting it.

Flashlight - not essential. Really shouldn't be out and about late at night for fear of getting lost or stumbling into a situation you're not prepared for. Not bright enough to use as a signal either.

Insect repellent - useful, but also substituted by picking a shelter away from insect-heavy areas.

Hammock - useful only for breaking down into components. Free rope!

Compass - not entirely necessary. Other navigation methods would suffice.

Mirror - see justification for flare gun.

Vitamins - can get most of your vitamins from wildlife.

Water purifier - depending on rainfall and wildlife, this varies in usage. A fair amount of insects (like grasshoppers) have enough water in their bodies to not need any additional water to digest them. Coconuts are good sources. If the first aid kit has iodine drops, that works. Collecting rainwater is also a suitable source. Purifier is only really useful in situations with little rainfall or small existing water reserves.

Fishing rod - fashioning a spear with a knife is good enough for fishing, and it serves more than one role.

Rope - really tough call to not include this, but for most purposes, sections of the tarp can be used for the most essential purposes (splints especially).

Hunting rifle - nothing big enough to justify it.

Tent - tarp already serves as a suitable shelter, and can be used for more purposes.

Matches - plenty of ways to light fires without them.

Volleyball - I'm sorry, Wilson.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
41. No duct tape or WD40???
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

Well then...

Tarp-Makes a tent or a ground cover AND a perfect rain catcher.

Knife-utensil, tool, and weapon.

Pot-Cooking, water purifier, and water reservoir.

Rope-completes tarp to tent and knife to spear.

The first three are non-negotiable. Rope is my luxury item.... It could easily be traded for something else as long as my island has vines. In fact any selection would be helped by a little more knowledge of the island. I really think the most underrated item on the list is the pot-sure you can heat things in items found on the island, but nothing else will conduct heat like iron and you'll save a ton of work and firewood (which may be scarce).

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
45. Tarp, pot, fishing rod, boots
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:20 AM
May 2015

The tarp can be used for shelter or to collect rainwater.

The pot can be used to store rainwater, store food, or for cooking.

Since you didn't mention any other food sources on the island (not even plants!), fish might be the only option for food.

Boots because if your feet go, you're hosed.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
46. Alternate suggestion: raft, fishing rod, water purifier, flare gun
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:31 AM
May 2015

Because getting the hell off the island is a thing.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
48. Looks like I'm the only tent person
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:13 PM
May 2015

Guess I've seen too many episodes of Naked and Afraid and the mosquitos. Lol.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
53. why is beer not on this list?
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:53 PM
May 2015

If I'm going to be stranded on an island I would like pot, beer, a tarp & fishing pole.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
57. Trade the Water Purifier for the cast iron pot.
Sat May 16, 2015, 03:09 PM
May 2015

A Water Purifier has only one purpose.
A cast iron pot has many.

In addition to being a water purifier:

*it is a way to adequately cook food,

*It can carry water from the source to your fire,

*it can be used to transport coals & embers to a new campsite.

I'll take the cast iron pot.

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
92. I agree, also if you find a spring you don't need to purifie the water
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:40 AM
May 2015

Furthermore, you, as a human, can drink from natural water sources and often will be fine, especially if you live in less developed nations, where clean water isn't as readily available, and your GI tract is used to it. This would eventually happen on the island naturally.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
59. My choice would be
Sat May 16, 2015, 04:11 PM
May 2015

Mirror, Pot (to boil water fresh water if available, but if not, can use to desalinate water by condensing steam with large leaves) and you can also reliably cook things with it, knife for obvious reasons and the first aid kit.

Mirror to signal and start fires
Pot - cook, purify water, desalinate if necessary
Knife - used to make other tools, shelter, and initially defense against predators if necessary
First Aid Kit - Antibiotics to prevent infection, and some include scalpels which include fine blades which again can be used to make fine tools (like needles to sew together thick leaves/bark to improve shelter quality, and sutures to suture wounds.

It would really depend on the geography and climate of the island, though. I'd pick the knife and the first aid kit regardless, but might make some variations on the other two. If it was extremely cold, I'd probably pick the tent to improve my chances of even making it a few days, etc.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
60. Boots, saw, raft and matches.
Sat May 16, 2015, 04:12 PM
May 2015

Need the boots to be mobile. I'm very protective of my feet and a foot or ankle injury could prove to be lethal.

The saw will cut everything from firewood and timber for a shelter to the heads off of the fish I'll be catching with my homemade fishing pole.

The raft works as protection from the elements or I can sleep on it when I'm not floating in it, catching fish.

And matches. I doubt I could start a fire without matches so, there's that.

For the record, I'm assuming there's fresh water on the island that I just need to hike to... If there's really no fresh water, I guess I'll have to give up the raft in exchange for the water purifier.

TYY

mvd

(65,173 posts)
63. Tent, first aid kit, matches, knife
Sat May 16, 2015, 04:43 PM
May 2015

I would do iPod but no electricity to charge the battery. The tent would give a little shelter. Matches would help you see at night and stay warm. First aid kits always useful. I do not like hunting but he knife would help cover bases.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
65. Pot, knife, tarp, rope
Sat May 16, 2015, 05:00 PM
May 2015

Pot for water collection and cooking. You could boil water to make it safe, too.
Tarp for water collection and shelter.
Knife -- useful for many things. You could probably use the reflection to start a fire, too.
Rope -- multi-purpose, including rigging a shelter and making a raft.

If you don't get rescued for a long time, a rope could be used for ... um ... did anyone see what Tom Hanks almost did in Castaway?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
69. Pot, water purifier, tarp, knife
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:33 PM
May 2015

Pot: has many purposes. Bathing, cooking, boiling water, carrying water

Tarp: good to use as protection against sun during day and making shelter at night. It can, also, be used to purify water along with the pot.

Knife: use to cook, eat, hunt, garden and protection.

Water purifier: obvious.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
70. How big is the island and where is it located, temperature, other land masses, etc?
Sun May 17, 2015, 12:42 AM
May 2015

Tarp and knife no matter what. The other 2 are dependent upon the conditions.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
71. Knife, matches, rope. I thought it was just three.
Sun May 17, 2015, 01:07 AM
May 2015

I was satisfied with those three, so I get the weed as the bonus fourth.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
72. Pot, fishing rod, knife, matches
Sun May 17, 2015, 01:12 AM
May 2015

I can purify sea water with a pot and fire. I'll need matches til I can figure out how to save coals. If I'm good enough with a knife I can construct a lean-to, and with luck use it to make a spear to kill food. And fishing is promising, as is other use of the rod and line.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
76. Knife, tarp, first aid kit, anything else optional
Sun May 17, 2015, 02:43 AM
May 2015

Knife would allow me to harvest sea grass to turn into twine for tying sticks together for more permanent shelter, weaving a hammock and fishing net. Knife tied on a stick would make a good spear. The tarp would keep me from being broiled to death during midday. Twine, sticks, and dry grass could produce fire. First aid kit would keep small problems from developing into fatal ones.

The problem of course is water. While rainwater could be collected in the tarp, storage would be problematic unless enough coconut shells had been amassed to take care of the problem. If the island is large enough, water can be dug for away from the sea. Now if they'd had a desalinization plant or solar distiller, that would be my fourth item. As it is, I don't have a preference.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
81. Tarp, water purifier, knife, and first aid kit.
Sun May 17, 2015, 04:49 AM
May 2015

Same as you. All but the water purifier are multi-function items. Without pure water, you're going to get sick really fast, and alone, sickness is death. The knife can be used to make stuff, and is therefore very useful. The tarp can function as a tent, but also somewhere to sit without getting wet, you can use it to make a raft if you need, etc. The first aid kit will help keep you from getting sick, but also a lot of the items can be used for other things. It often contains scissors = cutting tool. The bandages are usually cloth = thread for clothes repair. For making fire, you literally only need two sticks to rub together, but the aforementioned bandage can be used to make a bow with one of the sticks, which you can then use to rotate the other stick by winding the bandage-string around the stick, and roll back and forth, and voila, faster fire. I've done it, it works. Matches only get wet.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
85. Tarp, fishing pole, knife and raft
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:39 AM
May 2015

Tarp can be used to drag things back to camp on, as a blanket, shelter - lots of things.

The fishing pole is for its normal use.

The knife because it's a very handy thing to have in an emergency situation

And the raft...you can collect rainwater in it, use it as a shelter, lay it on the sand upside down and hope a plane spots it, or get the hell OFF the island in it. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west; knowing that, you should be able to navigate in a rudimentary enough fashion to get you into a shipping channel.

TBF

(32,050 posts)
88. Raft, flashlight, sunscreen & flare gun -
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:27 AM
May 2015

I'm looking for civilization because I know about how capable I am in the wilderness.

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
91. knife, flare gun, pot, saw. Not the water purifier since I have a pot
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:33 AM
May 2015

The matches would only last so long and then you would have to learn to make fire with a stick etc. The pot would hit two birds with one stone. Trying to sail the ocean in a raft is suicide. The tent and tarp are less important as you can build shelter or find a cave quite easily. I would try going barefoot often let the skin on my feet toughen up so I don't need boots.

I have generally found first aid kits to have little use. Well, not completely worthless. IMHO having little band-aids, bee sting relief, little cotton swabs, ointment, and stuff isn't what is needed surviving in the wilderness. Things like a tourniquet, a diaper (for stopping major bleeding), BIG roll of tape and stuff like that makes more sense to me.

The fishing rod could be useful but then you have to give something more important up and you can make a spear with your knife to kill fish. Crabs and ocean animals would be easy to catch.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
98. Rope, knife, tent and matches
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:08 PM
May 2015

Rope can be used for a lot of things.. knife can be used to build survival tools such as hunting tools, can also be used to dig out tubers and cut coconuts open. Tent, more comfy than the tarp, and matches, saves on making fire.

Fire is essential and can be used for signaling as well.

A fifth element would be the first aid kit, if available. You got fast kindling in there (gauze), and antibiotic cream.

The knife and the matches are the most essential in that list, with the rope. The first two are critical. The rope can be used to build yourself a nice shelter, fishing, a slew of things.

Though don't knock the ipod, you could potentially use the battery to start a fire. You are talking desperate there... I do not recommend you do it often due to fumes.

And I am ashamed none added a roll of duck tape After watching the myth busters use it for literally everything...

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
101. Some of it would depend on the flora and fauna of the island.
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:13 PM
May 2015

I'd choose tarp over tent, because a tarp can be used as a tent, and has more other uses (cathcing rainwater, for example) that the tent doesn't have.

Knife is obvious. If, that is, there is anything on the island besides sand. Given palm trees, bamboo, or whatever, you will want to cut it. Knife over saw again because the knife has more uses than the saw.

What is the water situation? Is there a freshwater stream? Does it rain often enough to capture rainwater? Does the water purifier desalinate, or does it just remove germs, which can be done with boiling. So the water purifier is a maybe, depending...

Matches is a short term solution to fire. If you are in a situation that might lead to your being stranded on a desert island then you should have learned how to make a fire without matches before you even set out on your adventure. I'd skip the matches.

Where is the island with respect to normal shipping lanes and air traffic corridors? A signalling mirror is a waste of time and effort if not planes or ships are ever likely to happen by. Again, it depends.

A first aid kit, might be good depending on how hazardous the island is. It might also just be a waste of space. I'd take the hiking boots over the first aid kit. If I protect my feet I won't need to treat the boo-boos.

Sunscreen would be very important if you couldn't find shelter from the sun. If there's trees then you'd better have the sense to stay in the shade during the heat of the day.

Compass is a waste. If you can't find west by watching the setting sun then you are doomed anyway.

Rope? Are their mountains on the island that you want to climb? Better idea is don't climb mountains alone. Ever. Rope might be useful to make a tarp tent, but paracord would be better.

Everything else on the list is just a joke to trip up the really stupid people. ipod? Really? If that's your choice then you will deserve your untimely demise. Listening to tunes while you die of thirst. What a way to go.


Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
103. Knife, rope, matches, first-aid kit.
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:10 PM
May 2015

The knife is absolutely, positively basic. I chose it over the handsaw because, if I were fashioning a semi-permanent shelter, I wouldn't be trying to saw down many redwoods -- it'd be mostly small-diameter stuff (although, in my opinion, a machete works even better for that, but it's not as versatile).

Rope is always handy. And, if you're patient enough, you can even strip it down into smaller threads. (It's not as if I'd have a whole lot of other things to do.)

Sure, the matches run out eventually, but if you work it right, you wouldn't need more than a few of them (just keep them embers smoldering!).

First-aid kits usually contain some antibiotics. And there are a lot of goodies in there that can be used for other than their stated usage.

If there were a fifth item, I'd add the pot.

Now, MY four items would be: Ginger, Mary Ann, the Professor, and the flare gun. After the Professor had finished fabricating an electricity-producing nuclear reactor out of coconut shells and palm fronds, I figure I could shoot his butt with the flare gun and still have one or two shells left to signal a passing boat.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
105. fishing rod, knife, raft, water purifier
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:04 PM
May 2015

fishing rod = reliable food source
raft = transport, shelter, water collection, possible way off island
water purifier = safe water
knife = versatile tool

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
112. what good is a fishing rod without hooks? I would want a first aid
Mon May 18, 2015, 06:34 AM
May 2015

kit, water purifier, matches, tent and 5 ounces of weed.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
113. Rod, Knife, Matches
Mon May 18, 2015, 07:09 AM
May 2015

the last one is tough....

Maybe the tent or tarp. But the rifle could be pretty handy depending on the island. How many rounds with the rifle? 100s? Is it sighted in? Does it have open sights?

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