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kentuck

(111,069 posts)
Sat May 16, 2015, 07:10 PM May 2015

Elizabeth Warren: "...That's not the American dream. That's the American nightmare."

http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-elizabeth-warren-convention-20150516-story.html

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In her speech, Warren also sketched the historical narrative that has helped fuel her rise in public life, portraying the U.S. as a country whose middle class, after close to a century of prosperity, has been hollowed by conservative policies from the 1980s on.

She said the governorship of former President Ronald Reagan in the Golden State was "the epicenter of the earthquake that shook the middle class to its core."

"Trickle-down economics was nothing more than political cover for helping the rich and powerful get richer and more powerful," she said.

Today, Warren said, "This country isn't working for working people. It's working only for people at the top. That's not the American dream. That's the American nightmare."

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Elizabeth Warren: "...That's not the American dream. That's the American nightmare." (Original Post) kentuck May 2015 OP
She's a national treasure. (nt) Jackpine Radical May 2015 #1
She sure is. Enthusiast May 2015 #18
Anybody happen to see what I attracted there before it got vanished? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #35
I didn't catch a glimpse. Enthusiast May 2015 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #34
BAM! Segami May 2015 #2
Speaking Truth To Power - Always Effective - Always Welcomed cantbeserious May 2015 #3
K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #4
Bets? SoapBox May 2015 #5
Oh, yes! Past time to deconstruct (as in a recent book) Ronnie. maddiemom May 2015 #6
Add a couple of presidents for me: Rolando May 2015 #8
Why? What problem do you have with FDR and Truman? I think they were good liberal Democrats. StevieM May 2015 #9
He said Truman and Eisenhower (not FDR) but I agree, Truman was VERY progressive... George II May 2015 #11
He said Truman, Eisenhower and also FDR. StevieM May 2015 #15
Missed that ("couple" threw me off!), skipped right over to Truman and Eisenhower, sorry! George II May 2015 #25
Eisenhower was a Liberal compared to most of today's Democrats. bvar22 May 2015 #32
Seriously? Brewinblue May 2015 #10
Truman and Eisenhower started our obsession with intelligence because it was so helpful JDPriestly May 2015 #27
They are deeply misinformed. Must watch a lot of Lying Fox News. Enthusiast May 2015 #39
I'm puzzled. Harry and Ike were not at all perfect, but...? maddiemom May 2015 #12
Really? daleanime May 2015 #13
Why? jwirr May 2015 #33
And we have lived it for 35 years and continue to live it..... joanbarnes May 2015 #7
+300 million nationalize the fed May 2015 #14
Sigh! I like your Sanders/Warrne signature line. JDPriestly May 2015 #26
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2015 #16
K & R. Tell it Sister Elizabeth! She is a righteous force God knows. Thanks for the post- appalachiablue May 2015 #17
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast May 2015 #19
Wasn't she voting for conservatives into the nineties? boston bean May 2015 #20
she still chose to vote for and with con's after Reagan? stonecutter357 May 2015 #21
How do you know who she voted for? JDPriestly May 2015 #23
Who cares? If she did, she learned. If she didn't, she had already learned. JDPriestly May 2015 #24
Then your position is at odds with Warren herself, who states that Reagan's R B Garr May 2015 #29
Wonderful! Wonderful! Wonderful! JDPriestly May 2015 #22
I am damned glad Warren decided not to run. Buzz Clik May 2015 #28
If you "have no idea what the hell she is up to" LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #40
Looks like you need an education in rhetorical comments. You won't be getting it from me. Buzz Clik May 2015 #42
"rhetorical" is not used as a comment but a question FYI LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #43
As I said, your education is incomplete, and it is not my responsibility to correct it. Buzz Clik May 2015 #44
here is a video someone posted from yesterday's speech rurallib May 2015 #30
She is the Real Deal. hifiguy May 2015 #31
Signal, wardrobe blunder, or neither? CA parents wear red and black at all protests against #SB277. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #36
Ditto, Loretta Sanchez, 2 hours ago. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #41
Pictorial uppdate. proverbialwisdom May 2015 #46
My hand kept clicking this over and over... Octafish May 2015 #37
Awesome! blackspade May 2015 #45
K&R woo me with science May 2015 #47

Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #1)

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
6. Oh, yes! Past time to deconstruct (as in a recent book) Ronnie.
Sat May 16, 2015, 08:46 PM
May 2015

Anyone who has lived (as did I) through Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, and the wrongly maligned Jimmy Carter (hell, even Nixon) can trace the national downward spiral to the Reagan administration. Whether it was he, or his puppet masters. the fact remains that he turned this country around. Just not in a good way.

 

Rolando

(88 posts)
8. Add a couple of presidents for me:
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:12 PM
May 2015

FDR and Harry Truman. I blame Truman and Eisenhower for a lot of our troubles.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
9. Why? What problem do you have with FDR and Truman? I think they were good liberal Democrats.
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:26 PM
May 2015

I wish that our presidents today were more like them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. He said Truman and Eisenhower (not FDR) but I agree, Truman was VERY progressive...
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:49 PM
May 2015

....and even Eisenhower would be considered liberal these days.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
15. He said Truman, Eisenhower and also FDR.
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:05 PM
May 2015

I agree that Eisenhower is liberal when compared to Reagan and Company.

1980 was definitely a turning point in our country's history, and not for the better.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
27. Truman and Eisenhower started our obsession with intelligence because it was so helpful
Sun May 17, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

in winning WWII.

We do need intelligence services, but under Eisenhower they got irresponsible, began to take risks that are incompatible with our values and moved out of bounds. They have harbored an irrational fringe ever since and we have had problems with their activities ever since.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
14. +300 million
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:57 PM
May 2015


In 2009, the Boston Globe named her the Bostonian of the Year,[20] and the Women's Bar Association of Massachusetts honored her with the Lelia J. Robinson Award.[95] She was named one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in the World in 2009, 2010, and 2015. The National Law Journal repeatedly has named Warren as one of the Fifty Most Influential Women Attorneys in America, and in 2010 it honored her as one of the 40 most influential attorneys of the decade. In 2011, Elizabeth Warren was inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame.

In January 2012, Warren was named a "Top-20 U.S. Progressive" by the New Statesman, a magazine based in the United Kingdom. In 2009, Warren became the first professor in Harvard's history to win the law school's The Sacks–Freund Teaching Award for a second time. She delivered the commencement address at the Rutgers School of Law–Newark in May 2011, where she was awarded an Honorary Doctor of Laws degree and was conferred membership into the Order of the Coif.

Imagine Washington DC Filled with Elizabeth Warrens.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
17. K & R. Tell it Sister Elizabeth! She is a righteous force God knows. Thanks for the post-
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:05 PM
May 2015

35 Years of Reaganomics, Trickle Up, Free Trade and Neoliberal Friedmanomics has Decimated the Middle Class. The American Dream IS the American Nightmare now, she's right!



boston bean

(36,220 posts)
20. Wasn't she voting for conservatives into the nineties?
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:02 AM
May 2015

This is nice to hear and all, and glad she has finally come around. But this has been obvious to Democrats for a long time now... Including, when Reagan was in office and the policies were being put into law.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. Who cares? If she did, she learned. If she didn't, she had already learned.
Sun May 17, 2015, 12:39 PM
May 2015

What I am concerned about is not how Elizabeth Warren voted in the 1990s, but what bills Bill Clinton signed in the 1990s.

Elizabeth Warren's votes in the 1990s didn't affect my life. Republicans lost the White House, and her single vote was not decisive in placing a Republican candidate for Congress.

What affects my life is NAFTA, the welfare reform (not my life so much as that of my neighbors0, the Telecommunications Act, and the repeal of Glass-Steagall to name just a few bad bills passed during Clinton's terms in the White House in the 1990s.

So I am not concerned about how Elizabeth Warren voted in the past. Her present convictions are very clear. And I like them.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
29. Then your position is at odds with Warren herself, who states that Reagan's
Sun May 17, 2015, 01:53 PM
May 2015

trickle down economics were the death-knell for the middle class. From the article:

"She said the governorship of former President Ronald Reagan in the Golden State was "the epicenter of the earthquake that shook the middle class to its core."

"Trickle-down economics was nothing more than political cover for helping the rich and powerful get richer and more powerful," she said."

But anything for a good Clinton bash, I guess.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
28. I am damned glad Warren decided not to run.
Sun May 17, 2015, 01:05 PM
May 2015

I have no idea what the hell she is up to, but I could not vote for someone who uses these tactics.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
40. If you "have no idea what the hell she is up to"
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:52 PM
May 2015

I'd suggest you get yourself informed there Buzz

But then it sounds like a speech talking truth to power is a "tactic" you have no use for. So ...

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
42. Looks like you need an education in rhetorical comments. You won't be getting it from me.
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:28 PM
May 2015

Let's just say I know exactly what Warren has been up to, and I'm mighty unimpressed with her and those who support her.

...speech talking truth to power...

Yes, yes, I'm well aware that socialist claptrap is all the rage at DU these days; another case of American liberals embracing a failed cause.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
43. "rhetorical" is not used as a comment but a question FYI
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:41 PM
May 2015

"I have no idea what the hell she is up to"

"Let's just say I know exactly what Warren has been up to"

There is nothing "rhetorical" in that, just confused and contradictory statements.


http://classroom.synonym.com/origin-phrase-speaking-truth-power-11676.html

"Talking truth to power" origins are either from a Quaker's book in 1955 on arguing for pacifism or some say it was first coined by "African-American civil rights leader Bayard Rustin's personal correspondence, Rustin states in a 1942 letter that the role of a religious group is to "speak the truth to power"

Nothing exclusionary about the phrase as "socialist". And if you really think the act of speaking up against those who hold greater power is "claptrap" then do you even support he idea of a free speech democracy?



proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
36. Signal, wardrobe blunder, or neither? CA parents wear red and black at all protests against #SB277.
Sun May 17, 2015, 04:43 PM
May 2015
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/warren-662044-sanchez-harris.html

Sen. Elizabeth Warren rouses Democrats in Orange County
May 16, 2015 Updated May 17, 2015 8:24 a.m.




Senator Elizabeth Warren gave a speech during the general session of the California Democratic Party's annual convention at the Anaheim Convention Center on Saturday.
BILL ALKOFER , STAFF PHOTOGRAPHER


BY MARTIN WISCKOL / STAFF WRITER

Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s scathing attacks on corporate control of Washington, D.C. won repeated ovations from the nearly 3,000 delegates gathered at the Anaheim Convention Center on Saturday for the annual California Democratic Party’s statewide gathering.

“Washington works great if you’re a millionaire or a billionaire or giant corporation,” said the former Harvard Law School professor. “It works great if you can afford to hire an army of lobbyists and lawyers. But it’s not working for California families. It’s not working for American families. We’re here to change that.”

Warren, a 65-year-old first-term senator from Massachusetts, has become perhaps the most charismatic voice of progressive Democrats. Although she has said repeatedly that she is not running for president, there was a scattering of white boater hats in the crowd festooned with stickers saying “Warren for President” and “Run Warren Run.”

In her 22-minute speech keynote speech, Warren pointed to statistics on the shift in the country’s income growth over the last 80 years.

From 1935 to 1980, the lower 90 percent of American earners received 70 percent of all income growth, Warren said. From 1980 to 2012, the top 10 percent received all the nation’s growth in income.

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“I know Washington is a tough place,” she said. “But we don’t win what we don’t fight for. We need people who believe that we can build a future. Not a future for some of our children but a future for all of our children. You are the heart and the soul and the living spirit of the Democratic Party. If we fight for our values will win. Are you ready to win?”

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proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
41. Ditto, Loretta Sanchez, 2 hours ago.
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:12 PM
May 2015
http://mynewsla.com/government/2015/05/17/sanchez-apologizes-for-war-whoops-in-native-american-meeting/


Loretta Sanchez at the Democratic Party Convention in Anaheim. Photo courtesy of the California Democratic Party

POSTED BY ALEXANDER NGUYEN ON MAY 17, 2015
2 hours ago


Yesterday outside the convention hall (SOURCE: Twitter):

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
37. My hand kept clicking this over and over...
Sun May 17, 2015, 04:48 PM
May 2015

Thanks for the heads-up, kentuck! Great quotes from a REAL DEMOCRAT.

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