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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon May 18, 2015, 06:50 AM May 2015

Paul Krugman- Errors and Lies

Surprise! It turns out that there’s something to be said for having the brother of a failed president make his own run for the White House. Thanks to Jeb Bush, we may finally have the frank discussion of the Iraq invasion we should have had a decade ago.

But many influential people — not just Mr. Bush — would prefer that we not have that discussion. There’s a palpable sense right now of the political and media elite trying to draw a line under the subject. Yes, the narrative goes, we now know that invading Iraq was a terrible mistake, and it’s about time that everyone admits it. Now let’s move on.

Well, let’s not — because that’s a false narrative, and everyone who was involved in the debate over the war knows that it’s false. The Iraq war wasn’t an innocent mistake, a venture undertaken on the basis of intelligence that turned out to be wrong. America invaded Iraq because the Bush administration wanted a war. The public justifications for the invasion were nothing but pretexts, and falsified pretexts at that. We were, in a fundamental sense, lied into war.

The fraudulence of the case for war was actually obvious even at the time: the ever-shifting arguments for an unchanging goal were a dead giveaway. So were the word games — the talk about W.M.D that conflated chemical weapons (which many people did think Saddam had) with nukes, the constant insinuations that Iraq was somehow behind 9/11.

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Paul Krugman- Errors and Lies (Original Post) n2doc May 2015 OP
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that frank discussion Demeter May 2015 #1
When co-conspirator Condi Rice was Thespian2 May 2015 #2
There's a lot of discussions we need to have..... daleanime May 2015 #3
Bam! In one short paragraph, Krugman fingers Hillary Clinton as either KingCharlemagne May 2015 #4
Non sequitur rock May 2015 #5
A fertile environment for the 28 Pages. johnnyreb May 2015 #6
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that frank discussion
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:17 AM
May 2015

It isn't the Klingon way...I mean, GOP. Not the human way, either.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
2. When co-conspirator Condi Rice was
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:27 AM
May 2015

given a membership to The Augusta National Golf Club, thinking people knew the PNAC murderers would never come to trial...the members of Augusta National are oligarchs, and they honored this murderess as their first female member...

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
3. There's a lot of discussions we need to have.....
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:41 AM
May 2015

all of them kept being put off for some reason.

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KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
4. Bam! In one short paragraph, Krugman fingers Hillary Clinton as either
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:46 AM
May 2015

modern American political history's biggest dupe or as something far, far worse:

Now, you can understand why many political and media figures would prefer not to talk about any of this. Some of them, I suppose, may have been duped: may have fallen for the obvious lies, which doesn’t say much about their judgment. More, I suspect, were complicit: they realized that the official case for war was a pretext, but had their own reasons for wanting a war, or, alternatively, allowed themselves to be intimidated into going along. For there was a definite climate of fear among politicians and pundits in 2002 and 2003, one in which criticizing the push for war looked very much like a career killer.
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