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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:34 AM May 2012

Mitt Romney - A school bully with a strong streak of cruelty

BLOOMFIELD HILLS, Mich. — Mitt Romney returned from a three-week spring break in 1965 to resume his studies as a high school senior at the prestigious Cranbrook School. Back on the handsome campus, studded with Tudor brick buildings and manicured fields, he spotted something he thought did not belong at a school where the boys wore ties and carried briefcases. John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

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A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.

The incident was recalled similarly by five students, who gave their accounts independently of one another. Four of them — Friedemann, now a dentist; Phillip Maxwell, a lawyer; Thomas Buford, a retired prosecutor; and David Seed, a retired principal — spoke on the record. Another former student who witnessed the incident asked not to be named. The men have differing political affiliations, although they mostly lean Democratic. Buford volunteered for Barack Obama’s campaign in 2008. Seed, a registered independent, has served as a Republican county chairman in Michigan. All of them said that politics in no way colored their recollections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html

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Mitt Romney - A school bully with a strong streak of cruelty (Original Post) cynatnite May 2012 OP
This could do damage to him, right? Maybe not, his followers are as sociopathic as he is..n/t monmouth May 2012 #1
I told my wife yesterday that sometimes when I go to the polls it is with the coalition_unwilling May 2012 #2
Absolutely agree and I shall be doing the same..n/t monmouth May 2012 #4
Wasn't going to vote for Romney to being with SoutherDem May 2012 #11
This will not play well with independents and hifiguy May 2012 #8
My word, this guys such an asshole uponit7771 May 2012 #3
Just another Omega. no_hypocrisy May 2012 #5
Rmoney thinks there is only one way to be a person of quality siligut May 2012 #6
"O Mitt Romney!" Peace Patriot May 2012 #7
I love it!!! SoutherDem May 2012 #12
Glad to see the vetting of Romney underway. Life Long Dem May 2012 #9
Romney Doesn't Recall Event/Will this story have a future life? SoutherDem May 2012 #10
"Romney did things like that so often this is just one of too many to remember." FSogol May 2012 #16
I'm torn between that and the "he's a liar" option. Bake May 2012 #20
Kick Scurrilous May 2012 #13
Where's the gay kid he bullied? aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #14
I believe he died in '04 of cancer..nt monmouth May 2012 #15
Aside from my silly bit above ("O Mitt Romney!"), this story has me wondering... Peace Patriot May 2012 #17
he doesn't seem to have changed much, "you hate me because i'm successful" type shit JI7 May 2012 #18
can't something a bit more current melm00se May 2012 #19
 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
2. I told my wife yesterday that sometimes when I go to the polls it is with the
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:57 AM
May 2012

express purpose of voting against someone, rather than voting for someone.

I will be going to the polls to vote against Romney and all he represents. This just motivates me even more to get to the polls come November to vote against the sociopath.

I will be doing it to honor all victims of bullying.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. This will not play well with independents and
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:37 AM
May 2012

the politically unengaged if it becomes a story. It just reinforces every truthful negative impression of Slimeball Willard.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
6. Rmoney thinks there is only one way to be a person of quality
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:30 AM
May 2012

He has no business running a country as diverse as the US.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
7. "O Mitt Romney!"
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:33 AM
May 2012

I just read this story to a friend and he shook his head and said, "What kind of a name is 'Mitt' anyway?" Then he started playing with it: "Mitch? Mitchell? No. Mitt. Hm. Admit, omit..."--bingo!

Omit Romney!

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I went roaming and found out that Romney's name is actually "Willard Mitt Romney" and he was named after the Marriott Hotels' billionaire, J. Willard Marriott, a friend of his father. The "Mitt" apparently came from his father's cousin Milton "Mitt" Romney, a quarterback for the Chicago Bears (1920s).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

Presumably he or his family/political groomers picked out "Mitt" from this stuffy mouthful ("Willard Milton Romney&quot for future bumper stickers, unaware that a future leftist friend of Peace Patriot would come up with the clever, "O Mitt Romney!"

The Marriott Hotels, indeed.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
9. Glad to see the vetting of Romney underway.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:41 AM
May 2012

When you think about it, there has been very little vetting of Romney.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
10. Romney Doesn't Recall Event/Will this story have a future life?
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:42 AM
May 2012

Ok, will I remember everything I did in high school 40 some odd years ago, I don't know. But, at 26 years yes I remember all but the mundane, and I don't think tackling someone down and cutting their hair would be mundane.

So here are some of the options;
It didn't happen and those 5 men are lying.
Romney remembers and he is lying.
Romney is having memory issues.
All 5 men are having memory issues.
Romney did things like that so often this is just one of too many to remember.

The Washington Post (I think) is thought of as a "real" new paper, having a record to go after the new no matter the side, similar to NPR.

Of course conservatives consider The Washington Post to be liberal, but they think all news media except their mouthpieces to be liberal.

Will other news sources pick this story up? Will Romney ever be asked by another reporter about this occurrence?

FSogol

(45,480 posts)
16. "Romney did things like that so often this is just one of too many to remember."
Thu May 10, 2012, 03:06 PM
May 2012

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

Bake

(21,977 posts)
20. I'm torn between that and the "he's a liar" option.
Thu May 10, 2012, 04:09 PM
May 2012

I'm 56 but I remember a lot of stuff from high school. And if somebody jobs my memory, I remember everything.



Bake

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
14. Where's the gay kid he bullied?
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:42 PM
May 2012

Get that guy in front of a camera now to tell America. And if Romney still doesn't apologize, get all the other witnesses in front of a camera. This is potentially a big story because it reveals his character and is still relevant to this day. Because if Romney either claims he doesn't remember or that it was no big deal even now, that says a lot about the man's present day character.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
17. Aside from my silly bit above ("O Mitt Romney!"), this story has me wondering...
Thu May 10, 2012, 03:35 PM
May 2012

...why the powers-that-be are sliming Romney. I'm still wondering it about Edwards (--what does he know?). I think this may be the work of our worst ruling power--the Bush Cartel--on behalf of Jeb. They may not think the time is ripe yet for Bush Junta II, and they don't want any other Puke to have "titular leader" power among the Pukes nor of course the White House.

I don't take ANYTHING that the Washington Pciast prints at face value (and I'm even, these days, thinking back and wondering about Watergate--were they really pure-hearts then? did they have dark reasons for wanting Nixon out?) (--was the exposure of Watergate and its coverup a coverup of something else?)

The Pciast, in addition to all of their other journalistic crimes, regularly blackhole REALLY BIG news stories (such as the ES&S/Diebold privatization of our voting systems). So, they could easily have deep-sixed this story, for all its witnesses. Of course, it could be that someone peddled the story around and they didn't want to be "scooped." It also could be that they are trying to GET votes for "O Mitt!" among the yahoos (but doesn't he have a lock on bigot voters already?).

Another possibility is that there is a split on the right side of the Corporate/War Profiteer Rulership, with, say, ES&S/Diebold (far rightwing-connected) and their fascist cabal (Rumsfeld, Cheney, the Kochs, Exxon Mobile--their ilk) wanting to strike now, to finish off U.S. democracy and proceed with the bloody military takeover of the world, and the other Corporate Rulers (think, Bush Sr., Leon Panetta, some Corporate/War Profiteer Dems, maybe the military brass--the ones who ousted Rumsfeld) thinking it's best to maintain some illusions, continue this period of "forgetting" and and jump in later, when all is "forgotten," for the Final Looting and a more effective, hypocritical transglobal regime, which controls most of the world's oil through wiles and 'little' skirmishes, not all out war.

If there is such a split (call it "O Mitt Now vs Jeb '16&quot , then the Washington Pciast (in dissing Mitt) may be working for the latter group, of which Leon Panetta seems to be the most visible operative.

Remember that Panetta was a member of the "Old CIA" committee that Bush Sr. assembled--the so-called "Iraq Study Group"--to (my thesis) oust Rumsfeld, stop Rumsfeld/Cheney from nuking Iran ("bad for business&quot , and possibly to rescue Junior from the CIA's wrath over the outing of their entire WMD counter-proliferation team around the world--and it also put Panetta in place to stop the war between the Pentagon and the CIA that Rumsfeld/Cheney had started and to clean up after Junior on a number of fronts. (Panetta may even have "vetted" Obama on investigation/prosecution of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, and extracted his compliance with "the Deal" that was made to get Cheney/Rumsfeld to exit peacefully.)

This "O Mitt" story makes me uneasy, in other words--little alarm bells going off. I don't care if there were 20 witnesses or a hundred. They could all be bought, "divided and conquered," smeared themselves or simply ignored--or, depending on the importance of the suppression, threatened in various ways, or, one by one picked off (a motorcycle accident here, a mysterious heart attack there). But, with the complete subversion of a free press that we have seen, by our Corporate Rulers, "blackholing" news stories (not investigating( it, not printing it, sometimes printing disinformation as a cover) is one of the less risky propaganda techniques. I don't know how these fascist 'news' organizations get their faxes from the CIA (whether directly or in back alleys) but they all cover the same bullcrap-type of "military-industrial complex"-friendly 'news' stories, in the same way--whether the Associated Pukes or the New York Slimes or Rotters or our capitol's prime lie promulgator, the Washington Pest. (Even the BBC and even the Guardian are guilty of such bullcrap about the popular, highly successful Latin American Left.)

The 'news' from such sources is highly, highly manipulated and it is our obligation as citizens of this benighted democracy to question it and try to figure out what is really going on. That is what I am doing here. I don't doubt the story itself (because there were so many witnesses, and these 'news' organizations do like to maintain a sort of minimal credibility and I would think especially so in a right vs. right power struggle). But I DO question their motives in pursuing a story from frigging 1965 in a boys' school. I'm sorry but teenage boys do rotten things--often very uncharacteristic things--and most grow out of it. I don't think children's activities are "fair game," frankly. We may think that Romney is a bully and a bigot (didn't grow out of it) or is just a panderer to bigots. HE--the adult person--is fair game. His mistakes as a teenager are not. So, why didn't the Pciast say, "Sorry, this is not appropriate"? Hm? Why are they pushing it and making a big deal out of it? They would probably say that the issues of bullying and gay rights are current but I don't think I would believe them if they did. I suspect an ulterior motive.

I have to say that, as a Democrat and an Obama supporter, I read the OP with a certain amount of glee. Bigot caught red-handed. Then I started thinking about it. I don't trust the news organization, at all. This is "below the belt" politics. (An awful lot of us would be disqualified from public office if some of our activities as teenagers were known. That's why they seal juvenile records. It's not fair to judge an adult by his or her worst teenage actions.) WHY are they pushing this?

I just thought of another possible motive. If Romney has been "cut loose" by the more powerful faction of the corpo-fascist right, and it's been decided that another term of "forgetting" is needed, perhaps the Washington Psst is using the opportunity (foregone conclusion, Romney out) to gain back a little "liberal" cache, by beating up on teenage Romney.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
18. he doesn't seem to have changed much, "you hate me because i'm successful" type shit
Thu May 10, 2012, 03:40 PM
May 2012

points to similar views. the fucker things he deserves something and other people aren't up to his level.

and did he express any regrets before this came out ? even if you are not able to contact the people who bullied you can say you did things you wish you hadn't. or is his regret just now that we found out and he is runnning for pres.

just like he can't have illegals working for him because he is going to run for president ?

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