The Clintons STILL aren't corrupt...

[MaggieD]

Excellent article that uses facts to make the case.....

"Now, 2008, you will recall, was when Hillary Clinton was running for president. It would stand to reason, would it not, that if Clinton was so intent on advancing Giustra’s Colombian business interests, she would have been for the trade deal at the exact moment Giustra finished paying her husband $131 million? But she was against it as a candidate, and implacably so! “I will do everything I can to urge the Congress to reject the Colombia Free Trade Agreement,” she said on the stump in Pennsylvania that April.

That’s not exactly the position of someone shilling for a donor, but I suppose if you’re a committed enough Clintonologist, you can turn it all into a conspiracy—she was just opposing it then to throw the rest of us off the scent, but she’d support it later when it mattered. In fact, she was so intent on hiding her “real” position that she even parted ways with campaign manager Mark Penn because he was consulting for the Colombian government in behalf of the deal."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/22/the-clintons-still-aren-t-corrupt.html

[NYC_SKP]

1. Giustra and the Columbians? This sounds more and more like a Martin Scorsese script.

This is one of the reasons everyone on my block loves them some Bernie.

He comes out, he talks to them about the unfairness of people earning $30 million/year on the backs of people losing their homes and benefits.

And he's been doing it for years.

Just now, he's getting some media coverage and it's lighting up the voters!

[MaggieD]

3. Sure busts that meme some people....

... are trying to sell though. The outrageous screeds about HRC's position on trade just tells me people have no clue what she has actually voted for, against, and spoken out about.

[Autumn]

5. Did you see Bernies Reddit discussion? OMG that was awesome

He really lit them up.

[NYC_SKP]

10. Wow! "I've never vote in 11 years, but I'm voting for this guy."

This is like a steam locomotive leaving the station.

[madokie]

14. F'ing A

[Scuba]

2. Congratulations, you found an instance in which Hillary wasn't corrupt!

[MaggieD]

4. Meanwhile, after 30 years

Some people are STILL trying to find something. And still no luck.

[Fred Sanders]

17. No need for the GOP, riddled themselves like Swiss cheese with corruption, to dig...when so many Democrats are shovelling.

And also finding nada, because there is nada to be found.

How about using those corruption-finding shovels on GOP ground?

You know, where the opposition party is camped.

Why are we helping them in their never ending quest for hopefully nada until at least the middle of next year, again?

Supporting someone for nomination as the Democratic Party candidate for President other than Clinton is not a good answer for having set foot in the enemy camp and photocopying their 'strategy', such as it is.

Me, I am just happy the word "corruption" is actually on the reluctant lips of the mass media, reluctant because we all know where the real and mass corruption is.....beginning with the media.

[Scuba]

21. If Hillary can't stand the heat, she should stay out of the kitchen. Or is being anti-corruption ..

... not OK with you?

[moondust]

6. Are the War Room donuts free? n/t

[bigwillq]

7. No, but the Kool-Aid is.

[MaggieD]

9. I'm just here to offset the nutty posts about HRC

Is it pissing you all off yet?

[Autumn]

24. Not at all Some of us are having a lot of fun with this

We've seen this movie before

[hobbit709]

8. It's all in the definition.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

11. My 19 year old son thinks her hair looks corrupt. All of his friends feel the same.

They don't dislike her, and they don't think that she herself is corrupt. But they think her hair looks corrupt. They'll vote for her if she wins the primary though.

[MaggieD]

13. That's funny!

My kid said, "and damn, Bernie needs to learn how to comb his hair before he goes on TV!" Kids say the darnedest things, don't they?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

16. Thanks, Maggie. It was low-hanging fruit; it needed to be done.

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[MaggieD]

18. LOL!

You sincerely made me laugh. Thank you.

[Aerows]

25. Your post

was so full of win, I need to know where to ship your internets.

You've won them today.

[uponit7771]

12. But But... Hillary killed Abe Lincoln!!! Sigh...

[cali]

15. I'll accept that, but the appearance of conflict of interest is in your face.

[MaggieD]

19. I think it proves just the opposite

Her vote is not for sale.

[cali]

22. well, that was muddled- and whatever you think, it has zippo to do

with the appearance of conflict. that is in your face.

Her judgment is so poor, I don't think she has any business near the Oval Office.

[MaggieD]

30. You just can't stand...

... To be proven wrong, can you?

[BreakfastClub]

20. Most people will not allow the facts to stand in the way of their beliefs. nt

[True Blue Door]

23. Nihilism isn't corruption.

So I wouldn't say Hillary Clinton is corrupt. Her motives, whatever they are, clearly do not involve money as an end in itself or she would have chosen the other Party.

People who choose the Democratic Party but act like she does have complicated motives. Unfortunately, the net result in her case is still despicable.

If it weren't for the Iraq War vote, I would be more willing to listen to her. But that was a boundary moment in American history with razor-sharp moral distinctions, and she couldn't see more than a millimeter in front of her face. And she still acts like that. Nothing has made a dent in that bubble of limitless self-regard and inability to see context.

[Hekate]

32. HRC is a Methodist. How does Nihilism come into that?

Good grief.

[True Blue Door]

34. Nihilism doesn't preclude membership in a religious organization.

Nor vice-versa.

[hrmjustin]

26. Thd media has nothing on them and it bothers those who don't like them.

[Thinkingabout]

27. Thanks for the post, good point. We need more of these to spread the truth.

[Octafish]

28. Because today Reverse Robin Hood is LEGAL.

Ever hear of Glass-Steagall?

Phil Gramm, the slow talking tip o' the spear for the repeal of Glass-Steagall hisself. On the payroll is a regular Who's Who of the process, including the guy who signed it into law, William J. Clinton. Now they work together at UBS, of all places, one of the "Too Big to Fail Banks" the US Taxpayer has had the privilege of bailing out, not to mention it isn't even a US bank.

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Speaker Sam's immoral moral of the story: "When everybody goes along, everybody gets along."

Like Nixon said, it rhymes with "in the book."

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Has there ever been a person in the history of the world who made $12,000,000 in speaking fees...

in FIFTEEN months?

[redstateblues]

31. And that proves?

There are people that make lots of money that are not corrupt. This idea that because someone makes a lot of money that makes them corrupt and evil is puzzling to me. Money only makes you more of what you already are.

[MFrohike]

33. Heh

We'll just ignore the $100 million Bill's made by peddling access and influence over the last 15 years. Nothing to see, folks.

[Hekate]

35. Do you even know what the CGI DOES? No, of course you don't--but it makes a good slur.

[MFrohike]

36. I'm not talking about the foundation

I'm talking about their personal wealth, which is valued at over $100 million. Bill alone is reputed to have collected $104 million in speaking fees over the last 15 years.

In the future, hold the condescension until you're sure you understand the subject at hand.

[Hekate]

37. I've moved on from condescension to outright scorn, because I actually can see what's going on.

[MFrohike]

38. Really?

I always thought ideological blinders got in the way of that. I guess you do learn something new everyday.