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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEvery answer I read on the Bernie Sanders Reddit Q&A
sounded just like every single other Democrat.
There was nothing new there.
They were pat answers that have been given time and time again by all Dem candidates.
Even Bernie admits there is little a president can do about these issues with a republican congress.
And that he would have to compromise a lot to get some stuff done.
I'm happy Hillary is out there trying to build a real movement of people for her to tackle these issues, not giving an electronic Q&A where we have all heard the same questions and answers all over again with very little ideas on how to solve the issues. It mean nothing unless you can do something about it.
Bernie wants to build a grassroots movement, get off the TV and Reddit and Facebook and start getting out there and do the real foot work.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Oh, and if Hillary was president, would she be Queen Hillary and wave a magic wand and get everything done?
If they are both the same, some people choose Bernie. You should get over that. I believe the problem with primary Time at DU is that some people are going to spend time trying to, um, what? Get DUers to switch camps? Doubties that will happen much. Maybe better to spend time out there on the grass roots thing, methinks - or are DU unbelievers a grass-roots target? If so, that sort of approach is DOA and just a waste of time. IMO and all that.
Oh, and so far Hillary's answer do sound like vague Miss America answers. Even the WAR ON HEROIN. If that is more outreach and/or more police, then not going to work. Ending that lucrative drug war would work.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I also add that it's unfortunate that candidate's supporters (typically across the board) aren't really doing their candidates any favors with those types of posts.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It is about sniping and ego. It has no bearing on the primary race. It's arguing at the pub.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)as you can get. Her campaign is a top down big money organization.
Sanders is building the movement. It is good that you recognize that Sanders' position are in line with the where the Democratic Party should be.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)You looking for something new?... It isn't there.
He says he needs a grassroots movement to do what he wants to do, but all he does is identify problems, offers no solutions except platitudes that it shouldn't be this way. And the only way he says he can do anything (what that anything is, I have no idea) is by having a grassroots movement.
So, what exactly is it he is going to do, and more importantly how is he going to get it done.
cali
(114,904 posts)he was specific about his plan to make public universities tuition free just this week.
And HIllary? She's been "listening"- and shmoozing with her fellow 1%ers, then she deigns to meet with a handful of handpicked supporters and sez: "I want to be the small business President". Whoopdeedo.
madokie
(51,076 posts)What exactly is Hillary going to do? Tell me and don't say something like if you don't know you're not paying attention cause if I don't do anything else paying attention is the one thing I do do.
think
(11,641 posts)You can use the Control button on your keyboard and the "F" key to open the find function and then enter "Bernie-Sanders" to quickly get to Senator Sanders replies to the questions.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)And that is a fact.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Bernie Sanders will NEVER be president of the United States.
I am 100% certain of that statement.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)You think some people would learn.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)a serious challenger.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)America is ready for Bernie - even if you're not.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)reality can be cruel.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)You really should quit trying to predict stuff. It's getting embarrassing.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)not going to happen.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And, the comparison was between Biden and Sanders. Biden gets no support anywhere. Bernie gets plenty, and it's early.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Because I think they mean literally nothing useful, but in the interests of accuracy, his polling has more than tripled in the last 4 months. Now, that's not bad for someone who only recently announced and was barely known before that. I think there is evidence in the polls that he will at least be a major contender, if you want to call it evidence.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And Bernie isn't doing that much worse than Obama was in 2007 (less than 10 points).
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)your increasingly expanding objections.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Now you know not to waste your time...
Long Drive
(105 posts)I thought it was just me. Thanks for the eye opener.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)And again, Bernie Sanders 2016 = Dennis Kucinich 2008
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)I think this is a whole different world, and most Americans are ready for someone different; unlike 2008.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)instead he didn't even register as a blip.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)In 2008 it was all about Hillary or Obama.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)2008 DU was looney tunes for John Edwards, he won poll after poll here with the Kuch a close second.
The majority that vote on polls at least here at DU have a horrible record of success.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)kacekwl
(7,016 posts)When a honest , hard working , intelligent man of integrity who is standing up for us who have been begging for such a person to come along is dissmissed as unelectable. He is asking for OUR HELP and if given can say fuck you to a gop congress and their owners. Can't just sit back and expect one person to change government.By the people for the people remember ?
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Last edited Wed May 20, 2015, 11:03 AM - Edit history (1)
In 2014 Democrats got their asses handed to them because people were tired of the same old shit. They wanted someone they could trust, who says exactly what he/she is thinking, and isn't interested in playing the political games. They got it in Bernie if they want it. Oh yeah, he's also a populist.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Hillary has long Q & A's like this all the time!
And 2+2=5!
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)Not doing everything he can to to dodge them.
cali
(114,904 posts)because you and I read that thread quite differently- and so did most of those asking questions.
And he has been getting out there as well as reaching voters and potential voters through Reddit, TV etc.
Hillary meets with hand-picked supporters- a few at a time who toss her softballs. Woot. That's just so much more "of the people"
Segami
(14,923 posts)if these so called 'hand-picked-supporters' are campaign workers parroting talking point Qs.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Hillary WOULD NEVER go on a radio talk show EVERY WEEK and answer any question (without knowing it first) from regular Americans. NEVER.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)nothing to you, eh?
Avaunt with your slimy hit job.
cali
(114,904 posts)ops that are nothing but: "the grass is really neon orange, cuz I say so!"
It's nice and transparent.
The thing about HRC, is there really are issues around her honesty, her "evolution" on issues, her judgment and yes, sorry the appearance of conflict of interest. Those issues don't exist with Bernie, but what's funny is that there actually are valid areas of concern- not that I'm going to elaborate on them here.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)defending Bernie to my comrades who are real Socialists and Communists which probaby explains my fettle too
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)because he associates with the DEMS is a sellout for that reason, and is being used to sheepdog the left to vote for Hillary in the end when he inevitably looses the DEM primary to Hillary's big money, corrupt win. I chuckle when I see Bernie supporters here at DU referred to as "the far left".
He's not even a radical FDR Dem, either. He's middle of the road for a liberal, and some of his policies are even centrist/center-right, like with Israel and the MIC. That he's considered representative of the far left, even by some politically aware FDR Dems on here, shows just how completely clueless about the political spectrum people in the US are.
-none
(1,884 posts)even when they support candidates with Right of Center agendas.
The fact that the Democratic leadership is over center to the Right screws many people's thinking up, because they still think the political center is somewhere between the Democrats and the Republicans. When in fact the political center is to the Left of the Democratic party, as it is being run today.
Bernie is campaining from where the Democratic party should be and where it used to be. The more people that understand this, the better Bernie's chances of winning the Presidency and getting this country back on track.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)She wasn't old enough to vote. Why is this still a talking point?
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)predecessor)? Why would anyone with a heart or actual human blood support someone who advocated using nuclear weapons on Vietnam? Maybe Hillary actually runs on WD-40. Would explain her vote on Iraq, now wouldn't it? Because Hillary is either history's biggest dupe or something far, far worse.
Care to continue?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)You did or did not have opinions when you was a teenager but why are you still using this as a talking point which is over fifty years ago? Why can't you let this go? You are stuck in the '60's.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)something far, far worse. How anyone with even a lick of sense can support her is beyond my meager talents. Unless you go in for supporting dupes (or something far, far worse).
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I rather doubt Hillary supporters is limited to "lick of sense".
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)1,000,000+ innocent people? Bernie voted against the war (and Obama opposed it). Why do you support a candidate who voted for the war?
Oh, wait! Maybe you supported the Iraq War too. Makes sense, now, come to thinkabout it (npi).
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)eloydude
(376 posts)as he is the most qualified candidate!!!!
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Difference is that Bernie actually acts like one.
-He would never voted for an unnecessary illegal war.
-He would never support the TPP.
-He would actually write bills to make college free and raising taxes on the rich to pay for it.
-He actually introduced a bill to break up the big banks.
He actually answers questions from voters and the media ... in public, at any event, and any time - not just in on online Q&A (who says electronic, btw?).
You sound concerned.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Uh, no. You might want to read that bill again. It raises taxes on all stock trades, with no offsets for old folks retirements plans or 401K's. So actually, he will be raising taxes on the middle class as well, including those of us who have worked all of our lives and only have those paltry 401Ks and retirement plans to live on. So, now that I am in my old age and have to choose between food and your free college, which one do you think will win?
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And, he told Wolf the other day that who he's interested in going after.
Bernie: On the very wealthiest people in this country, absolutely.
And, thanks for proving my point by ignoring everything else on my list.
-none
(1,884 posts)earning dividends. Nothing in it is being traded most of the time.
It is those that use high speed computers to trade hundred of thousands to millions of stock trades in milliseconds that this tax is aimed at.
One of the benefits, it would help stabilize the stock market. That would help your 401K in the long run. Far less chance of another stock market crash due to a computer glitch, if nothing else.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)just frack me up.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)$2,500,000,000 to be exact.
Do you think the bulk of that money will come from individual donors like you and me? If you do, you'll have to double your contribution; I ain't givin' a penny.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Hey 'bro
She'll get her money from 28 donors if that many
Bernie will get his from millions, thats with a M, of us out here. A few dollars here a few dollars there. I'm sure that Bernie is the best thing to happen to Hillary's fund raising for sure. Them rich boys and girls sure don't want him to get even close to the whitehouse.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Hope you and yours are doing well! Have a Wonderful Day!
madokie
(51,076 posts)OT but we're water logged here. I didn't know rocks could get water logged but they sure have this spring. We got damn near and inch and a half last night alone. My yard is a bog right now.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Send some our way!
madokie
(51,076 posts)They all come from your direction why you all are swamped is beyond me.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)When I was out there it was beautiful. I was up at Warner Springs and spent a lot of time at riverside and sanberdo.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The best he can hope for is talk shows.
cali
(114,904 posts)seeing your greedy candidate forced to deal with issues he's bringing to the forefront.
And yeah, I think the odds are increasing that Hillary will blow this primary too- doesn't mean I think Sanders will win it, but her record of unforced errors is less than impressive.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)A corner with his poll numbers. Let Bernie keep talking, it will not push her in a corner.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Go figure.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Very weak try though.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)It is in the poll numbers where Bernie is low, go figure.
Long Drive
(105 posts)Sad but funny.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)I can't believe Sen. Sanders would sound like anyone else. The guy's got integrity.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)For what it's worth, I think it's well worth reading and Sen. Sanders answers are excellent.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Sylvester knows better, ask him LOL
ananda
(28,858 posts)So what?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Better luck next time.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)What a pile of shit.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)JM
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)that you see that in others.
You are conditioned.
But it is nevertheless highly ironic and amusing to see you accuse Bernie Sanders of what is actually true of Hillary.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Yes, in bizarro world the candidate that doesn't answer questions is superior.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)If you're running for Head Librarian.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)but trashing the other candidate with stuff like this, is whack.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)She said he sounded like a democrat, which in the context of desperate Clinton support, is apparently now a bad thing. Lol.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
moondust
(19,972 posts)so as to add some "accomplishments" to his legacy and maybe sweeten his retirement prospects? Doubt it.
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)and post less.