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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:59 AM May 2015

Krugman rips William Daley over Daley's yesterday NYT Op-Ed pushing the TPP

Krugman has gone from being neutral on the TPP to mildly opposing it to being more opposed- partly because he's pissed about the lying shit coming from the WH and its proxies. This isn't the first time he's addressed the lying issue:

The Mis-selling of TPP

One of the great blog posts of all time was from Daniel Davies, who declared — apropos of Iraq — that

Good ideas do not need lots of lies told about them in order to gain public acceptance.

It’s a good dictum; and if you see a lot of lies, or at least misdirection, being used to sell a policy you should be very, very concerned about said policy.

And the selling of TPP just keeps getting worse.

William Daley’s pro-TPP op-ed in today’s Times is just awful, on multiple levels. No acknowledgment that the real arguments are not about trade but about intellectual property and dispute settlement; on top of that a crude mercantilist claim that trade liberalization is good because it means more exports; some Dean Baker bait with numbers — $31 billion in trade surplus! All of 0.2 percent of GDP!

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/the-mis-selling-of-tpp/

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Krugman rips William Daley over Daley's yesterday NYT Op-Ed pushing the TPP (Original Post) cali May 2015 OP
And lets not forget turbinetree May 2015 #1
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #2
K&R.... daleanime May 2015 #3
Interesting... druidity33 May 2015 #4
I never knew Krugman supported any free trade deal d_legendary1 May 2015 #6
stems from this... druidity33 May 2015 #7
From what I read on your link Krugman doesn't know enough d_legendary1 May 2015 #9
Right wing ones. hifiguy May 2015 #8
Kick. JEB May 2015 #5

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
1. And lets not forget
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:10 AM
May 2015

that there are those that are on the side of supporting this illustrious "deal" want to give 700 million of our social safety net Medicare, yours, mine for each year for six years (4.2 trillion) to help the "displaced" workers if jobs are lost (if this was such a good deal then why this caveat ------why)-----------its the old axiom rob Peter to pay Paul.
Then come out later in those six years and say that the Medicare system is underfunded and that it needs to be privatized-------wrong---------enough is enough.

Just think of what they did to the British rail when they gave it to Richard Branson:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/10/truth-richard-branson-virgin-rail-profits


This is why this "deal" needs to be stopped. I am tired of going to a third rate state for failure, just to enrich the already rich in the world



druidity33

(6,446 posts)
4. Interesting...
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:36 PM
May 2015

i often see defenders of TPP using Krugman as their shield. "Krugman thinks it'll be ok!". What economist can they point to now?

K&R.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
6. I never knew Krugman supported any free trade deal
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:13 PM
May 2015

I know the free trade ghouls are out there but I have never heard one of them use Krugman as a reference.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
9. From what I read on your link Krugman doesn't know enough
Wed May 20, 2015, 04:01 PM
May 2015

about TPP to make a valid decision. He simply compared it to the Free Trade Agreements we currently hold with the other countries. In 2013 TPP wasn't yet recognized, but now that he knows more about it he can say without a doubt that its a complete disaster.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. Right wing ones.
Wed May 20, 2015, 03:40 PM
May 2015

Sure as hell not Krugman or Stiglitz. Or any other HONEST economist for that matter.

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