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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTime breastfeeding cover sparks controversy
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/time-breastfeeding-cover-sparks-immediate-controversy-151539970.htmlThe provoctive cover, published online Thursday, was met with the predictable Twitter jaw-drop.
"Love the Time cover," AllThingsD.com's Peter Kafka wrote. "In the cringiest way possible."
"Anybody else slightly slack-jawed over this week's Time cover?" The Atlantic Wire's Adam Clark Estes rhetorically asked.
"Breastfeeding your 3-year-old is one thing," the Daily News' Bill Hammond wrote. "But putting a picture of him doing it on the cover of Time?"
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Oh wait, we get the icky over normal functions... We have seen photos like this published in National Geographic from other places in the world...
Oy.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Those have been out of style for at least 4 years.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)for the military sucking at the government tit as Simpson would say
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Fits your metaphor, I suppose.
polichick
(37,152 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)hand me downs....
That is not to be done...
Thanks for the laugh.
cali
(114,904 posts)manner. She's using him to illustrate her adult pov. I have a real problem with parents using children like they're some sort of extension of themselves. They aren't.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I wouldn't want to be this kid in 15 years.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but this is perfectly normal around the world.
cali
(114,904 posts)He lives in this society and his mother knows that. And btw, in most parts of the world, it's not "normal" to pose breastfeeding your 4 year old on the cover of a national mag- not that that's the most germane point.
FedUpWithIt All
(4,442 posts)it's views on this point.
And like many times in history, public discourse and a certain amount of public exposure are necessary for change to be understood, accept and embraced.
This is just more of the same and we, as a nation, would do well to respect the legal rights of others.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Now that would be controversial.
appleannie1
(5,062 posts)off my nose. Everyone to their own thing. I personally stopped it once teeth came in.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)first three years are not that crazy... studies and all that.
HubertHeaver
(2,520 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)He was called that up until the day he died in his 70's
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Good thing this is none of my damned business, or I might have an opinion. But, I do not.
I DO have an issue with the provocative headline, because wtf kind of a throwdown is that?
vanlassie
(5,666 posts)Since I won't pay to read the article, is whether there are also some lovely tender photos included... Apparently not-Time was going for the Enquirer-style presentation here, just trying to sell their rag.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)The whole cover--image, headline, is belligerent and confrontational. The only thing missing is the camo kid flipping the reader off.
Why? What is the point they are making?
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Sacrilege!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I don't see a problem.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)this one actually made me laugh
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)and the "source" not likely so perky. LOL.
eissa
(4,238 posts)And I speak as someone whose grandmother breast-fed her only son well into his elementary years, and another male relative did the same until he was about seven. This was back in the old country where women in the villages believed that breast-feeding your son as long as possible would make him grow stronger. Both men are in their late 40s now. Both are extremely juvenille and childish. Connection?
Btw, my teens would be horrified if I posted any baby pics of them on FB. I can't even imagine what this poor kid is going to think of this very public photo when he's 16.
Bake
(21,977 posts)And probably cut his own piece of meat with the knife and fork.
Just sayin'.
Bake
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)JHB
(37,157 posts)...my guess is that the men have grown up with a whole array of things that failed to discourage juvenile behavior by the time they qualified as grown-ups. Going by my little window on the world, it seems to rarely be from just one thing.
If there's a connection with the late breast-feeding, odds are it's just part of a package.
Lucky Luciano
(11,250 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It looks like torture, really. Who puts a kid on a chair and feeds them standing up???
The posture of both is fucking unreal and over the top, her hand on her hip, and he's what? on a chair? like, "mom, do I HAVE TO?"
The scene is just bizarre, as is the caption, and the photograph is unkind toward women who chose this practice with children this age.
So the photograph is "editorial", to be kind, and designed to generate emotion.
unkachuck
(6,295 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)...creeped me out. It was just weird to see a kid standing on a chair and looking at the camera.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)But this chick is taking it to a whoooole 'nother level. I can't help but think that in 6 or 7 years when her son's playmates come across this photo, her son will probably be as creeped out as the rest of us.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)That woman is going to regret that magazine cover. IMMENSELY.
derby378
(30,252 posts)Kids need to learn how to be independent, how to do things on their own, how to succeed on their own merits. That poor kid isn't going to learn any of that if his mom smothers him.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)these were the poor kids we had to wrench from the mothers at kindergarten...both of them clutching to hold on. Smother Mothers. Milk from a straw in a carton with graham crackers...tough on the kids.
guitar man
(15,996 posts)Now, if there's an ad for Olive Garden and an article about Pitbulls in this rag too, THAT would be controversial
Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)A mother breastfeeding her child. Why in the world would anyone consider that controversial? If someone finds this offensive, it says more about them than it does about the picture.
polichick
(37,152 posts)I'm pretty sure that's not how they normally go about it.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)Can you visualilze Dad standing there posing with mom and Kindergarten age/size boy?
vanlassie
(5,666 posts)Early childhood ed expert? Btw I nursed my firstborn son until he turned 4. His teachers in primary school often noted how gentle and friendly he was. He was a leader. He graduated with a physics degree from Cal. He is the best father to his own three year old still nursing son that I could not be more proud. Maybe there is something you didn't get taught about "early education?". I think early education means meeting age appropriate needs and gently weaning from mom. But that's just me and I never did teach early education, except to my own two delightfully well adjusted now successful adult children.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)Many kids don't get to nurse at all and get along fine, as well. Many kids don't get a "natural" birth and come out just fine. My son started snatching at "real" food at 8 months, walked at 10 months, weaned himself at 18 months, talked early, etc. He's an Aries and I've been chasing him ever since...he was homeschooled through Kindergarten and a neighborhood Preschool Coop and now is doing great, as well. Each parent-child relationship is unique. No one is judging you, your child or your choices.
Early Childhood Education in California, which included Pre K -3rd grade, began in 1971 because of mothers having to go out into the workplace. Lots of stay-at-home mothers had a lot of judgment around that. Some public school systems began to provide for kids during the day younger than 5 or kindergarten age. We were a pilot program in the South Whittier School District and we had a full educational curriculum. But the kids had to be weaned to come to preschool/PreK and for the mother to go to work. That's all.
vanlassie
(5,666 posts)sit right with me. Maybe you know this is not fair to say and it just slipped out. And yes- there are many variations of "fine." Long term nursing does not equate with smothering. It is more than a fine thing to do- it's an excellent thing- and yes it is sad that all mothers and children don't get to do it.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)...on account of because in school we do not ask them their nursing history. They are the kids that the mother has a harder time sending off to school and both have evident "attachment issues". Perhaps "hovering" would be a better word, reflecting some earlier family incident, and yes, mothers too often have both responsibility and criticism.
WonderGrunion
(2,995 posts)in children as young as 6 - 8 years of age, exactly how long do we want mothers with their sons attached to their breasts?
vanlassie
(5,666 posts)cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)the new rage ... plus Six Dicatators with Mommy Issues...really. I just don't know how to get the image from Windows Photo. This one does look a bit more like National Geographic than Chic Magazine, however.