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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:07 PM May 2015

Antarctic glaciers thinning so fast, it's like a switch was flipped

A new study has recorded a sudden and rapid thinning of once-stable glaciers along the southern Antarctic Peninsula, demonstrating that significant changes in glacier mass can occur surprisingly quickly as ocean and air temperatures rise.

The findings support what researchers have been seeing in other parts of Antarctica, with scientists warning last year that four key glaciers on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet appear to be on the verge of wholesale retreat with nothing to stop them.

The new study points to a common cause among the glaciers it studied: Warm water is melting away the underside of the glaciers where they meet the sea floor, weakening the ice shelves that slow the glaciers’ slide the ocean. The researchers "observe a relatively strong [common] response across multiple glacier systems that clearly points to changing ocean condition as the main culprit," says Alex Gardner, a glaciologist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif., who was not a part of the study, in an e-mail.

The study is unique, he says, because of how effectively it pinpointed the major driver of the changes. The study, which appears in this week’s issue of the journal Science, also points to the speed with which these changes are occurring.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2015/0521/Antarctic-glaciers-thinning-so-fast-it-s-like-a-switch-was-flipped

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Antarctic glaciers thinning so fast, it's like a switch was flipped (Original Post) IDemo May 2015 OP
Glad to be a Boomer. We were so fortunate. Faygo Kid May 2015 #1
I'm Gen X here, glad too that we got to play outside and only had 4 channels on the TV. Rex May 2015 #15
It is very arrogant to make that claim! BillZBubb May 2015 #2
I think it's called a tipping point. Climate has been changing faster than expected all along... haikugal May 2015 #3
There is no political will on a global level to address this issue. CrispyQ May 2015 #13
.... Pooka Fey May 2015 #14
this video never fails shanti May 2015 #19
K & R AnotherDreamWeaver May 2015 #4
They'd have to build and deploy a vast number of them IDemo May 2015 #5
It takes a long time for Redwoods to reach 300' AnotherDreamWeaver May 2015 #6
Stopping the destruction of the Rain Forest would be a good start n/t IDemo May 2015 #7
And stop the tar sands extraction, but they are just starts. AnotherDreamWeaver May 2015 #8
How about repopulating the tundras with megafauna? kristopher May 2015 #10
thanks for the Bison article. AnotherDreamWeaver May 2015 #17
But....this is junk science!? blackspade May 2015 #9
-- G_j May 2015 #11
Yeesh. RadiationTherapy May 2015 #12
Learn to swim. KamaAina May 2015 #16
Well soon enough we won't have to hear all this depressing stuff n2doc May 2015 #18
we used to lead now we will follow...very sad squandering great opportunity dembotoz May 2015 #20

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
1. Glad to be a Boomer. We were so fortunate.
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:12 PM
May 2015

This world is unraveling. We got dirty, built forts, came home when the street lights came on, watched black and white TV, rode our bikes, and watched three or four channels on TV.

Of course, we also had to remember JFK, Vietnam, MLK, RFK, and more. Still, I think we grew up in the greatest place and era in world history.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. I'm Gen X here, glad too that we got to play outside and only had 4 channels on the TV.
Fri May 22, 2015, 02:58 PM
May 2015

Video games were found in arcades and movie theaters. Popcorn and a drink was still cheap and movies were entertaining without the need for green screens and the compulsion to make a billion dollars.

OF course we still have to remember Reagan and the Bush Family, but still it is better than what I believe the future offspring will remember about this planet.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
3. I think it's called a tipping point. Climate has been changing faster than expected all along...
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:45 PM
May 2015
yet people act like we've got all the time in the world.

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
13. There is no political will on a global level to address this issue.
Fri May 22, 2015, 10:48 AM
May 2015

We are so fucked.

Some of the crew of "Chasing Ice," a documentary on the melting of the arctic, caught a huge calving event on film. At about 1:55 you can see a whale leaping out of the water.



This video is about 5 minutes long, but in real life the calving event took 75 minutes to complete. At 3:45 he superimposes an image of Manhattan over the glacier to show the scope of the breakage.

It is stunning in scope & global leaders don't do a thing.

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
4. K & R
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:04 AM
May 2015

Could someone build a device that takes carbon out of our air faster than trees and shrubs? (I think that's where they get it from anyhow.)

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
5. They'd have to build and deploy a vast number of them
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:07 AM
May 2015

And likely at a large carbon output in doing so. As well as having the problem of what to do with the 'captured' CO2.

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
6. It takes a long time for Redwoods to reach 300'
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:25 AM
May 2015

but reforestation of the world is something we could do.

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
8. And stop the tar sands extraction, but they are just starts.
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:01 AM
May 2015

Here on the Calif. coast we haven't stopped the forest conversion to grapes. Back East it's Mt. Top Removal and creek fill. Lots that could be done if we didn't have climate change deniers.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
18. Well soon enough we won't have to hear all this depressing stuff
Sat May 23, 2015, 09:43 PM
May 2015

Repubs will make sure no one in the US is funded to study climate science. And their allies in other countries are following suit.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
20. we used to lead now we will follow...very sad squandering great opportunity
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:48 PM
May 2015

And there is opportunity

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