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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm concerned about Hillary. What I know so far, culling actual recent DU posts:
Her daughter worked for a hedge fund.
Her son-in-law's hedge fund lost money.
Her husband traveled on a plane owned by a sexual predator/pimp/child molester or some combination of each.
Said husband ("Bubba" had 21 burner phones.
He also got a blowjob.
She has had a lot of hairstyles over the years.
She wears pantsuits.
She was endorsed by a pot-smoking black man with a sordid past.
She does not know how to type.
Lanny Davis might appear on television again.
I know I've missed quite a few, but these alone have caused me considerable consternation. I'm really trying to determine who I'll support in the upcoming primaries.
Am I just being overly sensitive?
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)You're on DU, not FR.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I know where I am.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)You'll have to be patient. Sorry.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Well nearly all of it. It has all been on DU.
Of course who cares about the clothes and hair?
But the other, public stuff, is pretty bad. Hillary has an awful lot to overcome. I doubt she's bad ass enough to make it happen.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)For the first two, a twofer: https://www.google.com/search?q=chelsea+hedge+fund&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&gws_rd=ssl#q=chelsea+hedge+fund+site:democraticunderground.com
The Pedo File: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026210721
Bubba? You're wanted on the hot phones: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026143928
My oh my, I've got lipstick on my tie: www.the.entire.internet.everything
Coiffé extraordinaire! (See below)
Who wears long longs? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026699786#post12
Bow Wow Wow Yippie Yo: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026699702#post114
As Secretary of State, she was a lousy secretary: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141047597
Will he be in the new X-Files? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026339748
I'm hungry again.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)I really took it as yet more HRC supporters with thin skin.
Man... back in 2k4, the hot house flowers would've been crispy by now. Primaries are all about the airing of our candidates' weaknesses. Even the Deaniacs and Clarkies knew this...
Cha
(296,878 posts)links.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Bill is NOT ON THE BALLOT!
Do her clothes or hair style REALLY matter to you?
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)better add a sarcasm tag or some will alert you.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I'll take a hide for the team.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)That's all unsubstantiated bullshit.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Read it again.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)They are making a point, we will see how it gets over.
rock
(13,218 posts)As I've posted before, we can't hear your tone of voice or see the smirk on your face unless you tag it. You say it's so absurd it must be sarcasm. I say so you must have never conversed with a CONservative - it's so absurd it must be sarcasm but it's snot. Kindly use the sarcasm tag.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Or not.
Sarcasm tags are soooo 2014.
rock
(13,218 posts)Go ahead and drop the sarcasm tags - this is not
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)After all, we've been bombarded with D level idiocy so clever, well written and funny it makes Carrot Top look like a comedic genius on a regular basis for years.
But this is satire. And it's good stuff too.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I just barfed...
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Please don't beat me for that.
Number23
(24,544 posts)people I've ever seen in my entire life.
Do you think he's had surgery to make himself look like this???
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msongs
(67,367 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)She has the same policies of a guy, who called himself
a moderate Republican? A man who loves outsourcing
and the TPP so much that he attacks good members
of his own party?
That is a very interesting observation on your part.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)moderate Republican from the eighties, when he was asked
whether he considered himself a socialist. That was during
a TV interview.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Alittleliberal
(528 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)H2O Man
(73,511 posts)position on legalizing Lonnie Anderson's hair.
This is, of course, an explosively emotional issue. There are pro-legalization folks, and anti-legalization people. Where, exactly, does Ms. Clinton stand? We deserve an answer.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I am concerned about spousal golden parachutes also.
cali
(114,904 posts)and you're trying to make it look like their can't possibly be any legitimate criticism of her policies, current and previous rhetoric and her record.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)But that's not what happens 70% of the time.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)and the other sides does too every primary election and I recognize it -- Cali looks like she's been here longer than me so I'm sure she recognizes it. I typed into searches after I joined July '08 or so back into the winter and threads up of supporters using Rezko against Obama that may be fair or not I don't really know but considering the controversy was non-existent (especially on Bill Ayers & Jeremiah Wright) I imagine it was pretty weak. Since I've joined, I've never seen a post using Rezko. Then there is a DUer, who I value his contributions left DU right because he didn't like the new format compared to the DU2 post, really good with numbers & probabilities no good bye post or anything just a mention he didn't like it in a thread at the old Meta discussion that to get the DU2 classic view would cost a subscription and a mentioned he had to learn the costs of a good value and paying to give his opinion wasn't it & poof. Did see 1 & 1 only post right after the midterms but he supported Hillary & no doubt he does again (probably enough hints that called him out but probably on DU2 for all I know) but he would often reference the bad behavior from Obama supporters that they quit according to the PMs he claimed he received which I no doubt believe people want to live over the behavior of others and I have my own stories. Me, personally I know what to expect from what supporters I'm just worried about when my own candidates' supporters come down on me if I feel something isn't right or feel differently on a policy (though I trust his ethics 90% -- can't do 100% because I'd be naive but all I do is care about issues which opens me up to the bad behavior because the debate is illogical if it were on the issues just like this OP here.
A personality here or there will have someone that will give him/her the best defense no matter the issue & always I have to deal with assumptions into motive & assumes that I have bad intentions -- what I have found -- though a salesperson would smile at some of the techniques such as a bullet point listing of O'Malley's accomplishments & Mother Jones names him most environmental friendly candidate -- to be more helpful is to find common ground is things we agree or disagree on & work from there. I often see these bad behavior of the other candidates' supporters opportunity for common ground and so many do post discussing the behavior of your candidate's behavior & vice versa. Some take it (and haven't seen this outside of Obama or Hillary Clinton they can do no wrong type of supporters) that they are voting for someone else because of the behavior of the supporters and so-and-so who. I've seen pretzel logic defense of all kinds of things, attacking is one thing but defending anything no matter what because a personality supports rubs me worse the wrong way.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And the humor is very much appreciated.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Is that a misrepresentation or your OP looks like sarcasm with a dry sense of humor. N/m --who she was endorsed by clued me in. I'll leave it up since I don't this thread is going anywhere. Someone on DU did accuse him of those 21 phone numbers listed as burners so wasn't sure at first but none of those, not even the phone numbers have anything to do with why I'm not choosing her. What daughter, son-in-law or do especially -- husband, it depends on what it is but she sounds more like a hawk than him, sounds more like a hawk than any Democrat I know -- just referring to rhetoric since she favored saying this rather than saying "no withdrawal" .
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WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)in Iraq. That sounds less than hawkish, but what do I know.
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truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Couldn't resist, mate.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Come to take away all liberal souls and make them obedient to their corporate masters.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)Is anyone so ignorant as to think that corporations giving her millions are not going to expect anything in return. Come on now, did you just fall off the frikin turnip truck in Arkansas?
polichick
(37,152 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said she is not sorry she voted for a resolution authorizing President Bush to take military action in Iraq despite the recent problems there but she does regret "the way the president used the authority."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/21/iraq.hillary/
Moderator Tim Russert pointed out that the title of the resolution was the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002." Clinton responded saying, "We can have this Jesuitical argument about what exactly was meant. But when Chuck Hagel, who helped to draft the resolution said, 'It was not a vote for war,' What I was told directly by the White House in response to my question, 'If you are given this authority, will you put the inspectors in and permit them to finish their job,' I was told that's exactly what we intended to do. "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/13/hillary-clinton-defends-2_n_81261.html
ISTANBUL: United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday implicitly defended Washingtons use of drone strikes to kill suspected militants, days after an aircraft reportedly killed al-Qaedas Libyan-born Abu Yahya al-Libbi in Pakistan.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-15210-Hillary-Clinton-backs-using-drones-in-Pakistan
Hillary Clinton's Business Legacy at the State Department (leading part in drafting TPP)
Shes pressed the case for U.S. business in Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, and other countries in Chinas shadow. Shes also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free-trade pact that would give U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=67554
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)* That's for the approximately 45,000 Americans and 1 million Iraqi citizens killed in the bullshit war greenlighted by Hillary Clinton.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Heads exploding, hair on fire - this is what life must have been like for women and children in Iraq. No matter how much "equality" they had.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)She will make a great President no matter what Bill did or will do. See we aren't electing her family and it is a fool who judges a person based on what the fool doesn't like about her family.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)*GASP* That's a deal breaker. NO way.