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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:24 PM May 2015

I'm concerned about Hillary. What I know so far, culling actual recent DU posts:

Her daughter worked for a hedge fund.
Her son-in-law's hedge fund lost money.
Her husband traveled on a plane owned by a sexual predator/pimp/child molester or some combination of each.
Said husband ("Bubba&quot had 21 burner phones.
He also got a blowjob.
She has had a lot of hairstyles over the years.
She wears pantsuits.
She was endorsed by a pot-smoking black man with a sordid past.
She does not know how to type.
Lanny Davis might appear on television again.

I know I've missed quite a few, but these alone have caused me considerable consternation. I'm really trying to determine who I'll support in the upcoming primaries.

Am I just being overly sensitive?

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I'm concerned about Hillary. What I know so far, culling actual recent DU posts: (Original Post) OilemFirchen May 2015 OP
... Cooley Hurd May 2015 #1
I learned all of this on DU. OilemFirchen May 2015 #2
Post links then... Cooley Hurd May 2015 #6
Off to dinner. OilemFirchen May 2015 #12
Okay... Cooley Hurd May 2015 #14
I'll vouch for all that RobertEarl May 2015 #34
Burp. OilemFirchen May 2015 #47
It's satire. Agschmid May 2015 #15
Oh... Cooley Hurd May 2015 #29
I believed you.. I don't need no stinkin' Cha May 2015 #57
None of those things pertain to HER! napi21 May 2015 #3
... OilemFirchen May 2015 #7
LOL - that's about the size of it OKNancy May 2015 #4
Won't do it. OilemFirchen May 2015 #9
Which team, the Republican team? JaneyVee May 2015 #13
... Satire Agschmid May 2015 #17
Poster said not sarcasm. Ok guess I misunderstood. JaneyVee May 2015 #21
He just said he won't add the sarcasm tag. Agschmid May 2015 #22
Which makes it non-sarcasm rock May 2015 #31
One could also, if in doubt, look up a poster's history. OilemFirchen May 2015 #50
If you don't want to communicate effectively rock May 2015 #59
I thought it was a joke MaggieD May 2015 #18
I'm not surprised that some here are having a hard time understanding legitimate satire Number23 May 2015 #23
Ugh Carrot Top! Agschmid May 2015 #25
Wait a minute, I saw C-Top shirtless on the Tosh.0 show and he is BUFF! NYC_SKP May 2015 #32
I don't normally comment on people's looks but sweet Jesus. He is one of the ODDEST looking Number23 May 2015 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate May 2015 #49
in terms of policy she is practically indistinguishable from the current president nt msongs May 2015 #5
Do you stand by this statement? sadoldgirl May 2015 #24
Obama called himself a moderate republican? Agschmid May 2015 #26
Yes, he did compare himself to a sadoldgirl May 2015 #28
Link? Agschmid May 2015 #40
Pretty simple to find Alittleliberal May 2015 #43
I was out at dinner, thanks for posting. Agschmid May 2015 #46
I waiting to hear her H2O Man May 2015 #8
I am concerned about the lack of attention given to national security. Thinkingabout May 2015 #10
No, you're being overly selective, not overly sensitive cali May 2015 #11
There absolutely can be. Agschmid May 2015 #19
It fascinates me that one side or another complains about behavior from others JonLP24 May 2015 #33
LOL! Ok this totally cracked me up MaggieD May 2015 #16
I ask on burner phones JonLP24 May 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #30
She just said that we have no business adding troops WhiteTara May 2015 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #27
Your concern is noted. truebluegreen May 2015 #36
She is the great Third Way Boogeywoman! hrmjustin May 2015 #37
By, Of, and For the corporation. onecaliberal May 2015 #38
You forgot she's a badass. polichick May 2015 #41
I think she has a lock on the pot-smoking-black-men-with-a-sordid-past demographic. Vattel May 2015 #42
and there is this. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #44
x 1,045,000 AtomicKitten May 2015 #45
You're not being overly sensitive. You're being a troll. n/t Lil Missy May 2015 #48
Its not okay to call people that. Agschmid May 2015 #52
Perhaps the concern should be for her trashers, heads will be exploding. Thinkingabout May 2015 #51
My goodness, SUCH a love of violence! Interesting. djean111 May 2015 #58
It probably won't matter much. upaloopa May 2015 #53
She does not know how to type? Jamastiene May 2015 #54
Don't forget supporting GMO's and hiring a Monsanto lobbyist to run her super PAC TheNutcracker May 2015 #55
PS. Not to mention hedging on TPP but comfortable being hawkish. TheNutcracker May 2015 #56
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
34. I'll vouch for all that
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:06 PM
May 2015

Well nearly all of it. It has all been on DU.

Of course who cares about the clothes and hair?

But the other, public stuff, is pretty bad. Hillary has an awful lot to overcome. I doubt she's bad ass enough to make it happen.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
29. Oh...
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:54 PM
May 2015

I really took it as yet more HRC supporters with thin skin.

Man... back in 2k4, the hot house flowers would've been crispy by now. Primaries are all about the airing of our candidates' weaknesses. Even the Deaniacs and Clarkies knew this...

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. None of those things pertain to HER!
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

Bill is NOT ON THE BALLOT!

Do her clothes or hair style REALLY matter to you?

rock

(13,218 posts)
31. Which makes it non-sarcasm
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:00 PM
May 2015

As I've posted before, we can't hear your tone of voice or see the smirk on your face unless you tag it. You say it's so absurd it must be sarcasm. I say so you must have never conversed with a CONservative - it's so absurd it must be sarcasm but it's snot. Kindly use the sarcasm tag.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
23. I'm not surprised that some here are having a hard time understanding legitimate satire
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:42 PM
May 2015

After all, we've been bombarded with D level idiocy so clever, well written and funny it makes Carrot Top look like a comedic genius on a regular basis for years.

But this is satire. And it's good stuff too.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
32. Wait a minute, I saw C-Top shirtless on the Tosh.0 show and he is BUFF!
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:01 PM
May 2015


Please don't beat me for that.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
35. I don't normally comment on people's looks but sweet Jesus. He is one of the ODDEST looking
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:34 PM
May 2015

people I've ever seen in my entire life.



Do you think he's had surgery to make himself look like this???

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #13)

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
24. Do you stand by this statement?
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:43 PM
May 2015

She has the same policies of a guy, who called himself
a moderate Republican? A man who loves outsourcing
and the TPP so much that he attacks good members
of his own party?
That is a very interesting observation on your part.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
28. Yes, he did compare himself to a
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:52 PM
May 2015

moderate Republican from the eighties, when he was asked
whether he considered himself a socialist. That was during
a TV interview.

H2O Man

(73,511 posts)
8. I waiting to hear her
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:35 PM
May 2015

position on legalizing Lonnie Anderson's hair.

This is, of course, an explosively emotional issue. There are pro-legalization folks, and anti-legalization people. Where, exactly, does Ms. Clinton stand? We deserve an answer.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. I am concerned about the lack of attention given to national security.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:35 PM
May 2015

I am concerned about spousal golden parachutes also.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. No, you're being overly selective, not overly sensitive
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:36 PM
May 2015

and you're trying to make it look like their can't possibly be any legitimate criticism of her policies, current and previous rhetoric and her record.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
33. It fascinates me that one side or another complains about behavior from others
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

and the other sides does too every primary election and I recognize it -- Cali looks like she's been here longer than me so I'm sure she recognizes it. I typed into searches after I joined July '08 or so back into the winter and threads up of supporters using Rezko against Obama that may be fair or not I don't really know but considering the controversy was non-existent (especially on Bill Ayers & Jeremiah Wright) I imagine it was pretty weak. Since I've joined, I've never seen a post using Rezko. Then there is a DUer, who I value his contributions left DU right because he didn't like the new format compared to the DU2 post, really good with numbers & probabilities no good bye post or anything just a mention he didn't like it in a thread at the old Meta discussion that to get the DU2 classic view would cost a subscription and a mentioned he had to learn the costs of a good value and paying to give his opinion wasn't it & poof. Did see 1 & 1 only post right after the midterms but he supported Hillary & no doubt he does again (probably enough hints that called him out but probably on DU2 for all I know) but he would often reference the bad behavior from Obama supporters that they quit according to the PMs he claimed he received which I no doubt believe people want to live over the behavior of others and I have my own stories. Me, personally I know what to expect from what supporters I'm just worried about when my own candidates' supporters come down on me if I feel something isn't right or feel differently on a policy (though I trust his ethics 90% -- can't do 100% because I'd be naive but all I do is care about issues which opens me up to the bad behavior because the debate is illogical if it were on the issues just like this OP here.

A personality here or there will have someone that will give him/her the best defense no matter the issue & always I have to deal with assumptions into motive & assumes that I have bad intentions -- what I have found -- though a salesperson would smile at some of the techniques such as a bullet point listing of O'Malley's accomplishments & Mother Jones names him most environmental friendly candidate -- to be more helpful is to find common ground is things we agree or disagree on & work from there. I often see these bad behavior of the other candidates' supporters opportunity for common ground and so many do post discussing the behavior of your candidate's behavior & vice versa. Some take it (and haven't seen this outside of Obama or Hillary Clinton they can do no wrong type of supporters) that they are voting for someone else because of the behavior of the supporters and so-and-so who. I've seen pretzel logic defense of all kinds of things, attacking is one thing but defending anything no matter what because a personality supports rubs me worse the wrong way.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
20. I ask on burner phones
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:40 PM
May 2015

Is that a misrepresentation or your OP looks like sarcasm with a dry sense of humor. N/m --who she was endorsed by clued me in. I'll leave it up since I don't this thread is going anywhere. Someone on DU did accuse him of those 21 phone numbers listed as burners so wasn't sure at first but none of those, not even the phone numbers have anything to do with why I'm not choosing her. What daughter, son-in-law or do especially -- husband, it depends on what it is but she sounds more like a hawk than him, sounds more like a hawk than any Democrat I know -- just referring to rhetoric since she favored saying this rather than saying "no withdrawal" .

Response to JonLP24 (Reply #20)

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
39. She just said that we have no business adding troops
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:30 PM
May 2015

in Iraq. That sounds less than hawkish, but what do I know.

Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
37. She is the great Third Way Boogeywoman!
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:39 PM
May 2015

Come to take away all liberal souls and make them obedient to their corporate masters.


onecaliberal

(32,786 posts)
38. By, Of, and For the corporation.
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:53 PM
May 2015

Is anyone so ignorant as to think that corporations giving her millions are not going to expect anything in return. Come on now, did you just fall off the frikin turnip truck in Arkansas?

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
44. and there is this.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:04 PM
May 2015
Hillary Clinton: No regret on Iraq vote

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said she is not sorry she voted for a resolution authorizing President Bush to take military action in Iraq despite the recent problems there but she does regret "the way the president used the authority."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/21/iraq.hillary/


Hillary Clinton Defends 2002 Iraq War Vote On Meet The Press



Moderator Tim Russert pointed out that the title of the resolution was the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002." Clinton responded saying, "We can have this Jesuitical argument about what exactly was meant. But when Chuck Hagel, who helped to draft the resolution said, 'It was not a vote for war,' What I was told directly by the White House in response to my question, 'If you are given this authority, will you put the inspectors in and permit them to finish their job,' I was told that's exactly what we intended to do. "



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/13/hillary-clinton-defends-2_n_81261.html





Hillary Clinton backs using drones in Pakistan

ISTANBUL: United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday implicitly defended Washington’s use of drone strikes to kill suspected militants, days after an aircraft reportedly killed al-Qaeda’s Libyan-born Abu Yahya al-Libbi in Pakistan.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-15210-Hillary-Clinton-backs-using-drones-in-Pakistan



Hillary Clinton's Business Legacy at the State Department (leading part in drafting TPP)


She’s pressed the case for U.S. business in Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, and other countries in China’s shadow. She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free-trade pact that would give U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=67554




 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
45. x 1,045,000
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:05 PM
May 2015

* That's for the approximately 45,000 Americans and 1 million Iraqi citizens killed in the bullshit war greenlighted by Hillary Clinton.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
58. My goodness, SUCH a love of violence! Interesting.
Sat May 23, 2015, 07:15 AM
May 2015

Heads exploding, hair on fire - this is what life must have been like for women and children in Iraq. No matter how much "equality" they had.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
53. It probably won't matter much.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:56 PM
May 2015

She will make a great President no matter what Bill did or will do. See we aren't electing her family and it is a fool who judges a person based on what the fool doesn't like about her family.

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