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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sun May 24, 2015, 05:17 PM May 2015

So what if Jinger Duggar wants to move out...Patriarchal movement would squelch that.

From a Patheos blog...

Carefully scripted lives: My concerns about the Duggars

The family has been hugely influenced by Bill Gothard's andthe Christian Patriarchal movement.

In a family influenced by Quiverfull beliefs, children who embrace different beliefs or ways of life from their parents are seen as failures. The idea is to raise ideological clones. The amount of expectations this places on children is immense. I really don’t know what those older Duggar kids want out of life, but I do know that if they want something different from what their parents want for them they are in for a lot of trouble, a lot of emotional manipulation, and a lot of guilt.

7. A patriarchal family order

The main emphasis in the Christian Patriarchy movement, as I pointed out in my introduction to it, is on a hierarchical family order where each member plays his or her role and everyone stays in their place. As an example, click here and here to see what the teachings the Duggars follow regarding the proper role of the husband and of the wife. The gist is, of course, that the husband is to lead and the wife is to submit.

The main way this plays out for the children is threefold. First, the children are required to obey their parents without exception. Second, the children are being raised for their future roles – the boys are to be providers and protectors and the girls are to be homemakers. They’re taught this from day one. Third, daughters are taught that they must obey their father even after they become adults.

Those older Duggar girls have been taught that they are under their father’s authority, and that they must follow his will for them. His commands are absolute, just as their obedience is to be absolute. By obeying their father, they are preparing for the time when they will similarly obey their future husbands. Furthermore, by staying at home rather than leaving the home to attend college or get a job, they are preparing to spend their lives as homemakers, as mandated by their gender.


Jinger Duggar expressed her desire to move to the city, somewhere. Seems Momma Michelle does all the talking for her.

Jinger Duggar had high hopes of getting out of her one horse town

Jinger Duggar had high hopes of getting out of her one horse town, but RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned that she won’t be moving any time soon.

Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar’s daughter had said that she wants to live in a big city — in fact, any city — but her parents claim that the teenager’s intentions were misunderstood, that she doesn’t REALLY want to live in a big city, and if she did, it would definitely NOT be the Big Apple!

“Jinger didn’t mean she wanted to move to New York City,” her mom Michelle explains to RadarOnline.com. “She meant that she wants to live closer to a city. We’re talking right near a city, but not New York City.

“Jinger meant she wanted to live 15 minutes from a Wal-mart. We live so far out of town on 20 acres, but Jinger wants to live closer to town, so she doesn’t have to drive so far to go shopping.”

Her older brother Josh, his wife Anna and their children are moving to Washington, DC for his new job, and Michelle suggests maybe Jinger could spend the summer with them in that city.

“Jinger would love to spend time with her brother and all their children in Washington,” she says — explaining that that’s about as far as she is allowed to go!

“New York City is way above what we would ever consider a city where she should move!” The devoutly Christian mom of nineteen vows.


See? The parents have all the answers for this.

There is by the way a Twitter page called Free Jinger
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So what if Jinger Duggar wants to move out...Patriarchal movement would squelch that. (Original Post) madfloridian May 2015 OP
When Jinger is 18 she could tell her family where to go... mnhtnbb May 2015 #1
way more with a tell all book JI7 May 2015 #2
Now there's a thought. madfloridian May 2015 #3
One of those Duggar kids is going to write one one day. It's gonna happen. Butterbean May 2015 #4
That is very likely treestar May 2015 #5
She's already 21 SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #6
You have to consider how she was brought up JI7 May 2015 #7
I have no idea what kind of education she received SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #8
The Duggars are NOT your typical homeschooling family. Not at all. madfloridian May 2015 #9
My bad SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #10
I'm going to ignore that remark. madfloridian May 2015 #11
You don't have to personally go to their home to observe their children rearing methods. LisaL May 2015 #12
So I've heard SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #13
yeah it doesn't show the sexual abuse . JI7 May 2015 #17
It's pronounced "ginger," correct? jmowreader May 2015 #14
I'm not sure. madfloridian May 2015 #15
yes JI7 May 2015 #18
and I bet none of those kids got any of the money made from that show. If Jinger had been liberal_at_heart May 2015 #16
The poor kid has no chance vankuria May 2015 #19
I do too davidpdx May 2015 #20
Jesus. She can go live with JOSH?!?! Who has a new job in DC? lostnfound May 2015 #21
Yeah, that part got to me. madfloridian May 2015 #22
Not any more. Hobo May 2015 #23

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
1. When Jinger is 18 she could tell her family where to go...
Sun May 24, 2015, 06:15 PM
May 2015

put up a gofundme page and probably get at least $50,000. to start a life on her own.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
4. One of those Duggar kids is going to write one one day. It's gonna happen.
Sun May 24, 2015, 06:40 PM
May 2015

It's just a matter of which kid at this point.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
8. I have no idea what kind of education she received
Sun May 24, 2015, 07:01 PM
May 2015

I know homeschooling families that have done an outstanding job educating their kids, so I can't say whether she received a good education or not.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. The Duggars are NOT your typical homeschooling family. Not at all.
Sun May 24, 2015, 07:42 PM
May 2015

The families in these Quiverfull and Christian Patriarchal movements will cut those who leave before being married from the rest of the family. That is based on the Gothard philosophy which the Duggars followed.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
10. My bad
Sun May 24, 2015, 07:44 PM
May 2015

I didn't realize that you had been in their home, observed their teaching methods, and were intimately familiar with what happens to kids that leave the home.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. You don't have to personally go to their home to observe their children rearing methods.
Sun May 24, 2015, 07:47 PM
May 2015

They have a reality TV show, in case you haven't heard.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
13. So I've heard
Sun May 24, 2015, 08:01 PM
May 2015

I've never seen it, but I'm guessing that it doesn't show every single detail of every minute of their lives. And I'm also guessing that it doesn't say they'll shun their children if they leave home.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
16. and I bet none of those kids got any of the money made from that show. If Jinger had been
Sun May 24, 2015, 08:48 PM
May 2015

Last edited Sun May 24, 2015, 09:32 PM - Edit history (1)

properly compensated for being on the show, she would have the freedom to choose the life she wants. But as we all know that is why they are so strict. They want to prevent that kind of freedom and choice. How did Josh get his own used car business? Dad's money perhaps? Will the girls see any of that money to start their own lives? No. And weren't some of the girls midwives? Do they get to keep their income or does Daddy take that for family expenses?

vankuria

(904 posts)
19. The poor kid has no chance
Sun May 24, 2015, 08:53 PM
May 2015

I doubt the Duggar kids are even allowed around anyone outside of their cult, only have friends preapproved by dad and will eventually get married off to someone dad picks out and the girls will have babies until they can't anymore. From what I've read the family had no television or internet connection until recently and I'm sure dad controls what can be viewed.

Girls are taught to be completely dependent on men so for her to get away would take enormous courage and probably some outside help from others.

I hope that happens so she can lead a normal life.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. I do too
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:55 PM
May 2015

i particularly hope it is one of the girls (women) who breaks free because they obviously have it worse given the harsh expectations. As someone above said, it's only a matter of time before one of them breaks free and writes a book about it.

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