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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it possible that Romney can't remember a specific instance of anti-gay bullying
because he recalls having acted out in so many similar events he can't distinguish between them?
teddy51
(3,491 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)to him, it wasn't a big deal, just teasing the guy.
Either way, he's an asshole.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)as it was to the kid he attacked.
RandySF
(58,770 posts)Bullies like this like to rack up a body count.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)without outlining exactly who he embarrassed, harassed, and/or bullied.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)You only tend to remember things that are out of the ordinary (either positive or negative).
Perhaps that was just another day of "bein' Mitt".
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)it just could be that the "fun" loving anti-gay bully is the Mitt that his wife Ann says is just itching to come out.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)That's what I was going to say. That it was one of many so how could he pick that particular one out.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Remember that he bullied another student he thought was gay. He yelled "atta girl" any time the student tried to speak in class:
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1002670311
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Vividly. Maxwell's description is of an incident that has haunted him for damn near half a century.
Romney claims not to remember.
Another participant apologized to Lauber in the 90's, 30 years later. Lauber remembered; the participant felt it deeply enough to apologize after 30 years.
Romney claims not to remember.
Five separate accounts all say the same thing. Five separate men remember it clearly 47 years later.
Romney claims not to remember.
Romney could have defused this quickly: "Yes, I did that, I participated in it, I orchestrated it, and I am deeply, deeply ashamed of my actions."
That's all. I know on DU many claim to have been bullied, but there is always a counterparty to these claims, and many people on the other side of that have grown up and feel deeply ashamed of their actions.It would have rung true.
But Romney claims not to remember.
He claims to have forgotten all about it.
It sounds like a lie, which is horrific enough. But if it's true, it's even worse.
Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)For months everyone has said Mitt is out of touch with ordinary people and just doesn't get their plight.
What if it's not just the ordinary people that Mitt is out of touch with?
What if Mitt is incapable of empathy?
What if Mitt is one of those many psychopathic personalities that the Wall Street Journal tells us go on to be CEOs?
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)another buck...
Same behavior.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)going on, not directed at me, I failed to speak up. (I have apologized to the victim for my failure and she claims not to remember it herself.) But I remember it, oh do I remember it and will do so until the day I die. Not good memories.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)Just can't accept his own bad self
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)He's pretty much in a class by himself when it comes to the rightness of his rightness.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Adding to the evidence that he is not fit to be leader of the free world.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)than Dick Cheney?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Karl Rove was bullied but retaliated in a way that made bullies blush.
on edit: I see Rove as more impulsive, and a bit more wiser than meathead Romney.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)Also, he is one of the biggest liars in history so he may recall and just is trying to spread bullshit.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I had long hair back then and was called a sissy a lot....
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I suppose that's possible...though its a distinction without a difference relative to identifying him as a bully.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I just adding that as a clarifier.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)it certainly wouldn't have been acceptable behavior for public school students.
Of course, that could vary regionally or locally.
I sometimes think I came from a much more civilized part of this country, but it might have been that I kept my eyes lowered and was better at staying off everyone's radar.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)targeted you and accused you of being the worst thing they could think of. They hated gays and felt that once they had labeled you this way, they were free to abuse you, and that you would be wounded by their accusations whether you were gay or not. They also felt they could treat you any way they wanted as a result. Call you names. Torment you. And even attack you. In fact they felt as if it were their duty to do so all the while smiling their fake Sunday School smiles when the adults were around. The guilt the other boys felt about being part of this mob is telling. They obviously matured and felt remorse. Only the worst of them has no memory of the event.
I am so disturbed by this story. Lots of people who were bullied in just this fashion are having a visceral reaction as I am.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I am only stating that at the time, having long hair was enough to get people to go after you. I was accosted when I was hitch hiking in ninth grade because I had log hair. Called me a sissy hippie and my Friend and I just made a get away. The guy threatening us was wielding a knife and his friends were egging him on.
I think it's pretty horrible.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)But it was so wrong for others to target guys like you. And it still makes me upset years later. The Romney story provoked an unexpected reaction from me.
And I am reminded of how I was taunted for being a part Asian kid. Like it was a bad thing and justified certain behaviors. This is why I know it must be so hurtful in the gay community to see further evidence that for so long the worst insult some men could throw at others was to call them gay. So childish and mean. And that Romney shithead can't even remember doing it. He scars others for life and he can't remember doing it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Odd how Mittler is having a hard time remembering.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)I remember in middle school standing up for a boy who was being bullied. The bully got huffy and him and I ended up in a fight where I bloodied him. I remember every second of the incident and will remember it on my dying day. I have long regretted bloodying the bully, but I don't regret standing up to stop what he was doing.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)is to protect his ambition, or whether he's actually humiliated by the memory.
One option makes him appear psychologically flawed, the other would make him seem human.
I can't help but believe his advisors have gone through this with him. Yet he chooses to claim amnesia