NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN IRAQ!

[Are_grits_groceries]

This is what ISIS wants. All of the warmongers want to defeat ISIS. How do you defeat a idea? That is ultimately what it is. It is a violent Sunni group that only wants to destroy. The core are fervent believers in a form of Islam. The rest are a motley crew of thieves, adventurers and fools.

Saudi Arabia and others fed this monster and they damn well better get off their asses to defeat them. ISIS just threatened them and that should be no surprise. The Saudis can either help defeat them now or wait until they are on their doorstep.

The Iraqi army fled. I'm sure there were a lot of reasons, but if they won't defend themselves then we cannot do it for them. Everybody in that area is waiting for us to be foolish enough to come back in with ground troops. We will end up fighting ISIS and gawd knows who else. There are groups such as the Shite militias who can either be allies or foes. That can shift on a dime.

I hate the violence and pure terror they are unleashing. Who doesn't want to stop that? However, boots on the ground will just provide targets for them to kill and capture.

We insist on thinking in terms of WWII. Nothing seems to have taught those in command or the fools in Congress any different. We are not going to send in a large force and establish lines of battle that will result in victories. Any group that fights there has to be mobile, self-sustaining, and well-trained in fighting an enemy that is the same.

We will not be putting boots on the ground. We will be sending targets.

[cali]

1. We currently have 6,000 boots on the ground in Iraq

in the form of 3,000 advisers. Don't be surprised to those numbers increase

[ShawnRIN]

4. Source? n/t

[cali]

5. Satisfied?

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There are about 3,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, including hundreds of trainers and advisers. They are limited largely to protected bases, not any battlefield, because of White House concern that an expanded military role could lead to "mission creep," the slow expansion of involvement in another war four years after U.S. combat troops withdrew from Iraq.

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http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/02/25/will-us-troops-be-drawn-back-into-iraq-war/24009315/

[Jesus Malverde]

2. or Syria!

Ooopp

[Skidmore]

3. I wonder if it occurs to anyone that

perhaps the Saudis want ISIS to succeed. You don't fund that much mayhem without wanting to achieve the stated purpose.