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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI apologize. I might have snickered in 1965
I don't remember, being so young. Not snickered for something like Romney did....but just toward those in the GLBT community who appeared to be different.
We didn't know back then. We didn't understand. Humanity hadn't evolved back then.
But, never, never, ever, would I have done something like he did, acted with overt cruelty toward another
human being, no matter how different they were than I.
If this doesn't get us to fight for Obama's reelection, nothing will.
vt_native
(484 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)week. The first President speaking out. And his opposition showing what
the antithesis of what Obama is.
It's ending up being a classic good vs. evil...which will grow awareness and
acceptance even more toward the day when it is not even a discussion topic.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)and said some snide things, being kids and not knowing any better. That's not to say being snide and snarky toward the "different" kids (not just the gay ones - the fat ones, the nerdy ones, the too-smart ones, the kids with thick glasses or shabby clothes, the special ed kids - all the kids who weren't cute and clever and popular) was OK; it wasn't. But to have committed an act of assault as Mittens did would have been unthinkable. And to claim to not even remember having done it is completely unbelievable.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)something like Romney did. It strikes me that if I was one, and I didn't remember, then that would mean I had done so much hating and bullying that it was a blur. If it was an anomaly, then I would remember. So, the guy's a liar or a serial bully
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Making signs with the guys name and picture so everyone will know what Rmoney did. Dead men do tell tales, and maybe his victim would like this story told. And let's not forget Seamus. Let's speak for both who cannot speak now.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Mitt couldn't even manage to do that, and he did attack that kid.
He did a non-apology apology, the "If I offended anyone" routine, and snickered and laughed nervously on Faux News. He is annoyed that people are talking about this, he's not at all contrite about his behavior, though.
The guy is clueless, and a real jerk.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Abso-fucking-lutely
What is it about human nature....when someone does something so shitty
that you think of anything that might be related and slightly shitty
to apologize?
Totally ignoring the election...this whole thing just reaffirms my belief
that this guy is fucked up.
And before, it wasn't because of putting Seamus up on the roof, it
was the unnatural authoritarianism he exhibited toward his children
on this trip. His son said, in the article in February 2012, Vanity
Fair, that his dad had the trip from Boston to Toronto (I believe)
mapped out to a tee. He spoke to his sons and told them they
would be stopping for gas at X and Y and that would be it. There
would be no exceptions.
My dad didn't want to stop either...but he never, ever mandated that
there would absolutely positively no exceptions.
The guy's a nutcase.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He's a very weird person....and weird in a "not good" way.
Bet Ann Romney wishes she never touted this bozo's "wild" side.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)one and he's got the exact same characteristics. Very overly defensive, and his
body and voice get stiff and stilted when challenged.
There is no way he will win. They are probably all meeting as we speak (write). I
believe their sole focus will be damage control and picking up house and
senate seats. O needs to speak out every chance and connect legislative
candidates to this nut case.
MADem
(135,425 posts)http://www.politicker.com/2012/05/mitt-romneys-history-of-haircut-bullying/
He also thought KKK-ish Home Invasions were a real scream!
http://www.politicker.com/2012/04/mitt-romneys-strange-sense-of-humor/
Mr. Romneys shaving incident, which his father, former Michigan Governor George Romney revealed in a 1970 speech, occurred while he was a student at Stanford. The elder Mr. Romney said Mitt and his friends lured students from the University of California into a trap where they shaved their heads and painted them red.
George Keele, who served as a Mormon missionary in France with Mr. Romney in the 1960′s, described the home invasion prank to the Post:
One night in Bayonne, in southern France, Keele answered a knock on the door and saw two men, their faces hidden by sheets, ordering him in French to put his hands behind his back, turn around and not utter a word. Keele fled out the back door only to hear Romney, his mask removed, laughing uproariously in the house.
The guy is what most would call a sick fucker...!
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)my wingnut in-laws. They think it's just horrible to dredge this up
said it was just boys being boys.
Said Obama bullied fat girls. Said it was in his book. I read his book
and don't remember any story like that.
I said, "it's pretty weak, when all you can do when someone
does something wrong, is to bring up other examples of other
people doing something wrong." That kind of quieted them
MADem
(135,425 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)Boy, these kinds of stories keep coming. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there are enough of them to write a book by the time November rolls around.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)would have laughed or been indifferent. For me I'd like to think I've completely evolved from my late 50's and early 60's thinking.
btw , Fortunately, the obviously gay boys at my school were very likely to kick your ass just like any other kid.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Glad I figured out how to outgrow it.
This incident and its recounting are just an opportunity for Romney to express that he's changed. Even the President has described his position on marriage equality as having evolved. I don't see where we profit from this.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)it's not as much about his homophobia, which you can evolve from...it's about his
cruelty to others.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)The macho ethic of 1965 affected a lot of us in that day. That was pre-"Women's Lib" as they called it in the early 1970's. It was considered acceptable for boys to get in fights, and even to gang up on someone who was 'different'.
There's an awful lot more that Mitt Romney has said since he tried to convince the reich-wingers that he's one of them that I find telling about who he is today. This is about as relevant as a young Barack Obama eating dog meat.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)as a High School student leading a gang to bully one person?
Were you ever bullied? I'm guessing maybe not.
cali
(114,904 posts)granted I'm female but no it wasn't acceptable to pick on other kids.
It's relevant alright.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)But the schools and society didn't care that much about bullying before Columbine.
Like I said, there's plenty more about the things that Romney does and says in the present day than anything he ever did back in high school.
cali
(114,904 posts)who were different, or weaker.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Humanity was every bit as "evolved" then as it is now. There have always been people who don't quite fit in (gay or straight) and there have always been people who bullied them. And it has always been WRONG, and anyone with a brain and a conscience knows that now and knew it then.