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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:42 AM May 2012

Big Oil Is Gaming the System to Keep Domestic U.S. Prices High

Here is a good read:

The U.S. Is Now EXPORTING Oil, But the Oil Companies Are Gaming the System By Switching To a Different Benchmark to Keep U.S. Oil Prices HIGH … And the Keystone Pipeline Will Create Even HIGHER U.S. Prices


Leah McGrath Goodman – who has written for the Financial Times, Barron’s, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes and Fortune – notes that the U.S. is now an oil exporter, but that Americans aren’t getting reduced oil prices because the oil companies are now pricing the oil according to European metrics:

The U.S. is now selling more petroleum products than it is buying for the first time in more than six decades. Yet Americans are paying around $4 or more for a gallon of gas, even as demand slumps to historic lows. What gives?

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Americans have been told for years that if only we drilled more oil, we would see a drop in gasoline prices.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/05/big-oil-is-gaming-the-system-to-keep-domestic-u-s-prices-high/

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Big Oil Is Gaming the System to Keep Domestic U.S. Prices High (Original Post) NeoConsSuck May 2012 OP
We have suspected this for years liberal N proud May 2012 #1
Am I the only person that remembers W talking about 'artificially low gas prices'? Edweird May 2012 #2
I remember him saying that anything over $30 a barrel rurallib May 2012 #6
Global market determines prices. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #3
Until recently WTI has always been priced higher than Brent hack89 May 2012 #4
Canada exports lots of oil and their gas prices are higher than the US (at least last year pampango May 2012 #5
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #7
First, the US is NOT exporting oil.... eallen May 2012 #8
I thought that high gas prices in other nations Duer 157099 May 2012 #9
Partly. Petrol is the equivalent of US$8/gallon in the UK in part because of taxes. Spider Jerusalem May 2012 #10

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
1. We have suspected this for years
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:45 AM
May 2012

Why is it not investigated by the Justice Department? or Congress?

Oh, I know, they are getting paid not to, at least Congress is.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
2. Am I the only person that remembers W talking about 'artificially low gas prices'?
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:22 AM
May 2012

They told us they were going to jack up the price of gas. Then, they did it.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
6. I remember him saying that anything over $30 a barrel
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:39 AM
May 2012

was outrageous and he wouldn't stand for it.
Then I think Cheney told him who was in charge

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. Global market determines prices.
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:40 AM
May 2012

So, even as we drill for more oil in the U.S., the price benchmark has dodged the markdown bullet by taking cues from the more expensive oil. As always, we must compete with the rest of the world for petroleum – including our own.

The giant economies of Europe and Asia and their demand for oil are part of what sets the market price. This isn't some nefarious scheme. However the drill baby drill liars should suffer consequences for so blatantly lying to the American people.

We are in the era of global essential resource scarcity. Oil is but one of many such resources. It will only get worse. No serious efforts are being made to restructure our economies to live within the planet's capacity to sustain us.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Until recently WTI has always been priced higher than Brent
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:01 AM
May 2012

the shift to Brent is not a US issue - WTI use to be a global index. Wall Street switched to reflect how the global markets are now pricing oil

pampango

(24,692 posts)
5. Canada exports lots of oil and their gas prices are higher than the US (at least last year
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:15 AM
May 2012

when I visited Ontario). You're either part of the world or you're not.

eallen

(2,953 posts)
8. First, the US is NOT exporting oil....
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:58 AM
May 2012

We import about 60% of the oil we consume:

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-the-US-is-Not-About-to-Become-an-Oil-Exporter.html

The US recently did become an exporter of oil products. In other words, we have enough refinery capacity to produce gasoline and other refined products not just for domestic markets, but also some for foreign markets. That says nothing about net oil production or consumption.

Second, if you think there is some trickery keeping gasoline prices high in the US, compare them to gasoline prices in most other nations.


Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
9. I thought that high gas prices in other nations
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:03 PM
May 2012

was due to the associated taxes, which their citizens get back in the form of social services (like health care). No?

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
10. Partly. Petrol is the equivalent of US$8/gallon in the UK in part because of taxes.
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:15 PM
May 2012

Remove taxes from the equation and the underlying baseline cost per gallon is pretty much equivalent everywhere in the industrialised world. The UK price per gallon, less fuel duty and VAT (taxes) works out to about US$3.30 a gallon at current exchange rates, which is more than the wholesale cost per gallon in the US.

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