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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders, surrounded by lily white people:
April 22, 2015:
On a side-note: There are two easy ways to disempower the trolls who are race-baiting:
a) hide their threads; and
b) put them on ignore.
Look at it this way: the fewer clicks they get, the less they get paid. Eventually, they will shrivel up and fade away into the internet ether.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We now have a "Sanders has black friends" post. Damn near every single person here knows he isn't racist. Why are some fighting so hard to prove something that is known. Is this what is going to happen throughout his whole campaign? Brush it off. He is on the national stage and will take some cheap shots.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Let's let people say whatever they want and it's on the internet forever. Let's just shrug our shoulders when it's on right wing media. Oops, oh well. Let's just let people lie and lie. Too bad there weren't more disgusting photos in that post, that would have made it even better. Let's just all call people the worst possible names and then act like nothing happened.
Let's see, what name would you let people call you and just shrug it off? I, for one, don't take the word racist lightly. I use that word against people who deserve it and I mean it with all venom and scorn. I do not use it lightly and I do not approve of other people using it to score political points.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Please. Lets brush of what wasn't really a conversation in the first place.
"Let's just all call people the worst possible names and then act like nothing happened."
We are all just running around crazily calling Sanders a racist.
"Let's see, what name would you let people call you and just shrug it off?"
I have been called every name in the book and shrugged it off.
"I, for one, don't take the word racist lightly"
Nor do I. The insinuation is baseless on your part. Pretty sure your issue with that aspect needs to be addressed to the op.
You are completely making my point. But look, there is a picture with some black people standing next to a white guy. That is some serious debate on race right there. Nothing offensive. He has white friends and that has been proven by the op. Who would have known. Well, except for all of us.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Not one.
lookatme
(54 posts)makes some DUers sound desperate to find ANYTHING on Sanders
Bad JuJu my friend
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)A candidate for the Democratic nomination failed to directly address issues of concern for POC in the announcement speech.
That's a pretty significant optics gaffe for a would be nominee.
lookatme
(54 posts)That's all I'm trying to say.
We all know this man is not a racist or indifferent to the abuses African Americans and people of color face everyday
as a fact of life.
I just came home from work and reading all these threads started about this was not
something I was expecting on DU
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It isn't anything the Senator cannot come back from.
I think it's more of an indication of his complete inexperience with internal Democratic politics, especially at the national level.
lookatme
(54 posts)I really don't think he has any chance in winning the primary.
At least the way I see it now.
He's a good man and I think he would make a fine President but
our chances of keeping the White House will come down to Hillary and who ever wins the Republican nomination .
just my 2 cents
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)who prefer a second Clinton family presidency.
lookatme
(54 posts)If Bernie was to win the nomination it would be great
but even his supporters know it's a very, very long shot .
I think he's going to run out of money and will have to withdraw less than half way through the primary.
It sucks to say it but it takes about a billion dollars to win a Presidency
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)lookatme
(54 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)appalachiablue
(41,055 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)THAT should be a new OP !!!
Paka
(2,760 posts)and you have to work hard for it is a lot different than "knowing" this early in the game that he can't win. That meme has been all over this board.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The fact that a winning candidate spent $X does not prove $X are required to win.
BTW, in terms of what gets spent, a billion is probably way low. Soft money brings up the total
But Bernie's biggest financial challenges will be in the primary, not the general
lark
(23,003 posts)The Clintons' backers are nothing compared to the Kochs, not even in the same universe as far as spending money. Whoever wins the Repug primary will have the Kochs and Adelsohn running more ads for them and against the Dem candidate than anything we've ever seen before x10. Clinton's handling of him will be so kid globe compared to the frothing lying ranting we'll hear from the right wing, no matter which D is candidate in the general.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)as opposed to on the internets? Now come to think of it,
I know people who were only grudgingly enthusiastic,
if there is such a thing; but Bernie!
merrily
(45,251 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)that the more that becomes a possibility, the more smears, first they will be 'implications' we will see.
It won't matter, the people are sick to death of negative BS. Bernie is right about that too. THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ISSUES.
So ignore or hide threads that are not focused on the issues. Don''t kick them, don't pay any attention to them, just ignore them.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Said with no malice.
But I will never quit.. As Dylan Thomas so aptly suggested.
merrily
(45,251 posts)posters on a message board.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)but oh so sweetly, while pretending there aren't several OPs that are pretty damn ugly.
merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Those are not issues of concern for people of color?
Do you realize when Wall Street banks crashed the economy people of color were hit hardest and first, many losing homes and life savings?
Do you get that when bad trade deals sent jobs overseas that black communities were destroyed?
Some people seem to be mistaking words for deeds. Take a look at whose policies actually help people of color, and whose policies hurt.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)What, you want a 20 mile long list of everything a candidate should say he supports?
Suppose he left off bringing back the 1965 Mustang as one of his "planks?"
Which I actually think is important because the present Mustang ain't no Mustang in my book. Close, but no cigar. Now the modern version of the Beetle. THAT was well done.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)More ad hominem attacks to mask the fact that shit was just made up.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)And I can completely understand why when you look at the pictures in the post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026737025
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Events and an issue that the Senator failed to address in his speech.
It was a significant optics issue related directly to the largest constituency of the Democratic Party and was a 100% legitimate criticism of the Senator's speech.
Nothing at all wrong with that post.
delrem
(9,688 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Sanders has a history of civil rights support and was one of the few Democratic candidates that actually spoke at Selma this year for the anniversary. His history and record is beyond impeachment.
An optics issue?
Dear gods, did you look at the pictures included in that post? A mocking racist photo included for no discernable reason. Your cut and paste response is repugnant.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Hillary Clinton made note of those issues in her speech.
Sanders failed to do so.
History has no bearing on the political optics.
It is a general statement on Bernie Sanders' ineptitude when it comes to internal Democratic Party politics, regardless of anything else he has ever done.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)The entire body of a candidates work in legislation and civil rights has no bearing? I daresay that Sanders has done a hell of a lot more than Hillary Clinton and I trust deeds, not mere words.
In the face of history you should be ashamed for defending this kind of a meme.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)when it comes to the political optics of the announcement speech.
You're starting to get it.
Obama made worse gaffes than this one by Bernie. Bernie will make it right with a speech somewhere down the line.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I am disgusted by someone reducing the quantity of a mans work on race and class based issues legislatively and in terms of civil action and disobedience down to a photo op.
You are a part of the problem. Congratulations.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I am not some idealistic dreamer who wishes things were a way when they are not.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)How do you sleep at night?
Bernie has done action in the real world and you are playing fantasy-land with images and nonsense and spin.
Do you really think that if Bernie wins that the republicans are going to magically capitalized on the African American vote with his record? Seriously?
You aren't interfacing with the reality of his record or his actions in the real world.
I am done with you.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I accept the reality in which I live.
You deny that reality.
Let's see whose candidate is more successful.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Okay, come on, you left the window wide open for that one.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)wishes they were different, and then tries to change them.
That is also Bernie Sanders.
merrily
(45,251 posts)appalachiablue
(41,055 posts)and starting in with the tired 'idealist' vs. reality, how unoriginal. It's ok, all will come out in the wash.
Paka
(2,760 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)You probably wouldn't discount that if Sanders' record wasn't so stellar. I guess you need that as your excuse.
merrily
(45,251 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)That post was a vile attempt to smear Sanders by putting that disgustingly racist pic in the OP and hoping people's takeaway would be that Sanders had something to do with that pic. That is the lowest of lows and the most despicable and disgusting OP ever posted on DU. And you and all sheshe's defenders are the ones who won't shut up about Pitt using the used car salesman line in an emotional outburst. Her OP was premeditated with a clear goal in mind. It is the same tripe that is in the bowels of the most extreme right wing. So good for you if you think there's nothing wrong with it. It's clear you have absolutely no decency and no integrity what so ever, just like the OP.
Why the hell would you and others want to go so far as to swiftboat the best fighter for ALL of the people of the US? Well, not all, he's against the 1%.
appalachiablue
(41,055 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Today, I read in a Nation article that Sanders backed Jesse Jackson for president in 1988.
http://www.thenation.com/article/206521/bernies-race
I have also read remarks about the fact that Vermont is such a white state and that the crowd at Bernie's kick-off was mostly white. There have also been many statements about the poll stating that a large percentage of African-Americans supports Hillary.
So, yes, the issue of Sanders' views on race has been raised numerous times on DU. Time to respond to it.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Obama made worse gaffes in 2008.
Of course, even acknowledging that Sanders made a gaffe is enough to have some people get all butthurt about it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)African Americans he had had on his staff as Governor. She was from Cape Cod, Massachusetts, so she probably knew very well how much bullshit her canard was.
The way campaign events are staged nowadays, from the fake cheering to the fake diversity turns my stomach. I hope Sanders doesn't jump on that bandwagon.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)A very low point for this site.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There was never an implication of racism, only butthurt people who cannot accept the fact that Bernie Sanders made a political optics gaffe in his announcement speech.
Qutzupalotl
(14,230 posts)You think your subjective impressions are facts. You think constituents showing up to an announcement speech constitute a gaffe. You need to get over yourself and stop trying to stir the shit.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)base in a presidential bid announcement is a pretty damned significant gaffe by what amounts to a neophyte in national Democratic politics.
CANDO
(2,068 posts)Which issues of concern that POC have that Sen Sanders missed? Because he didn't say "people of color", doesn't mean each and every issue he talked about wouldn't also apply to that demographic. That's some damned shallow analysis on your part. Of course if he had bussed in POC, you'd have attacked him for those optics as well...after all, what matters is the attack and smear, whatever way you can. Don't quit your day job, a campaign operative is not your strong suit.
merrily
(45,251 posts)realistic shot at the nomination won the hearts and mind of African American voters? See also Reply 37.
Besides, Sanders did not fail to address. When he says equal, he means it and his lifetime backs him up.
You can fall for a carefully orchestrated campaign and ever "evolving" political philosophy, or you can look at the last 40 years.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)That is my opinion and the people doing this should be ashamed of themselves...again in my opinion.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That is my opinion and the people being butthurt over this should be ashamed of themselves...again in my opinion.
rpannier
(24,304 posts)That supporters of Hillary Clinton are grasping at any straws to go after Sanders (or anyone else) because they're all butthurt that anyone would deign to challenge their candidate. They're clutching their pearls and fanning themselves over the indignity that she will have to defend her positions instead of getting the automatic, no primary opponent they feel their candidate deserves
And they should be ashamed of themselves for being so undemocratic as to be all butthurt that she didn't get what her supporters feel she deserves
Just an opinion
tonybgood
(218 posts)IF (and that is a huge "IF" Clinton were to win the nomination, you're going to need those Sanders votes. Try to destroy Bernie with smears and innuendos and those voters are liable to stay at home. Sanders will make this moot by winning the nomination with a very simple strategy: the issues!
appalachiablue
(41,055 posts)themselves, note the tone, language. But wait until truths come out. Remember to say, "just brush it off". I can't wait.
merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)And, given no one is buying, I can't imagine why you keep wasting your time repeating them. I mean, if they went nowhere the first thirty times, what are the odds forty will do the trick?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)among other pinnacles of nonsensical "throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks" lame-itude that have come up in GD in the past 48 hours.
Let's not be cute, and pretend these things aren't what they are.
merrily
(45,251 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)One said Sanders was about nothing but white men, which bullshit, if true, would make him both racist and sexist. Yet the poster denies implying he's racist. And there's certainly been enough ugly, false, shameful shit on this board about his supporters who are DUers being racist and sexist. Things we were meant to see or they would have been posted on another board or on facebook or some other locale. But, they were posted here, for us to see. And we're still operating under the bs mythology that no one attacks Bernie or his supporters. It's only ever the other way around.
Interesting, too, that you know what every single poster on this board technically refrains from saying.
But sure, I'll buy your claim that "not a single poster" actually called Sanders racist, using that exact word.
.
Sorry, the innocent act and lame denials on technical grounds fail big time. You all may be convincing each other, but none of you are convincing us, so you may as well save your breath.
Oh, almost forgot: BRUSH.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)but responding to something again and again get something seen on the internet.
cali
(114,904 posts)but it's the equivalent of saying "Sanders has black friends" to post a pic of Bernie's original announcement crowd which does include people of color?
Wow. That's interesting.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Please stop putting words in my mouth. Yes, candidates on the national stage will have to deal with things like this. Only a political neophyte would think campaign optics aren't open for discussion at this level of politics. Fine and dandy? Where do you get this stuff? Read your post again with respect to my reply. I get that you are outraged over a non-story. I am beginning to really feel for the perpetually outraged brigade.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)in which I keep asking the same loaded question no matter how many times you deny it with your answer, and so you are forced to keep denying it until the allegation becomes credible because you continue to deny it. The worst thing possible is to keep responding to and denying the allegation.
merrily
(45,251 posts)allowing the Big Lie to be stated over and over without contradiction does a lot of good, either.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)As the Nazis made clear, if you tell a big enough lie, keep it simple enough and repeat it endlessly, it will eventually be accepted as truth. The Bush administration used the same tactic in the run-up to the Iraq War.
merrily
(45,251 posts)There was a study once that showed (supposedly) that people tend to believe the first version of a story they hear. And, get this, a retraction only reinforces the original, false impression.
Ever notice for example how many time during the recession that the government put out unemployment figures twice for the same month, with the original unemployment figure ALWAYS being lower than the later, corrected figure?
I tended not to kissass or gossip at work. But, then I noticed my superiors coming to me with something they'd heard about me. It would be a lie, but suddenly, somehow, I had the burden of proving I had NOT done something, when the burden should have been on the accuser to prove I had done it. And, I worked for some very smart people. Unhealthy work environment, but smart people.
I swear, this is the kind of thing they should teach in school.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)... the Hillary team preparing, "but I have more Black friends than Bernie," as a possible way to deflect attention from her racist 2008 campaign.
If so, they're not doing her any favor. Bernie has made it clear he won't bring up that 2008 unpleasantness. If the Hillary team does bring race into it, someone is going to point out the obvious. And nobody who made a last minute attempt to change election laws in the Nevada primary to suppress the Black vote should ever be qualified to hold office as a Democrat ever again.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And the fact that all of these folks suddenly touting his records are hardly ever to be found in the threads about Black Lives Matter and have never stepped even a toe in the African American forum on this web site makes all of these "he's got black friends!1" posts beyond insane.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)intimated that Bernie Sanders was privileged and that he didn't discuss race or have anyone other than white folks at his announcement for candidacy.
Is a post like this unnecessary? It *should* be unnecessary, but some least common denominator types "called him out", so I think it is appropriate.
No one is going to shut up and shut out candidates other than Clinton and her supporters. That's not democracy, nor is it what the Democratic party is about, either.
Response to NCTraveler (Reply #1)
merrily This message was self-deleted by its author.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Sanders has black friends post. The text of the post is:
On a side-note: There are two easy ways to disempower the trolls who are race-baiting:
a) hide their threads; and
b) put them on ignore.
Look at it this way: the fewer clicks they get, the less they get paid. Eventually, they will shrivel up and fade away into the internet ether.
And brentspeak is a consummate master of brush it off OPs.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5767160
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)LOL.
Relatively speaking, DU is small potatoes.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Shills are a known fact of political life. Sure, they'll probably aim more for Reddit or the like, but why wouldn't they salt some resources towards Kos and DU? Just make it part of a plan. Post to Reddit, post to Fark, post to Redstate, post to Kos, post to Freeperville, post to DU, lather rinse repeat.
Mbrow
(1,090 posts)Cali, even in our little world here in Idaho we have paid trolls doing our local paper and blog. they make no bones about who they are, (Idaho Freedom Foundation). The director works for ALEC and one of the other leading knuckle heads was elected to the state congress. they are reaching havoc with the state and I keep hoping people will wake up here.
7962
(11,841 posts)or a racist!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Democratic message board?
that's not to say it's the full time job of any poster. So many message boards, so little time.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Was it a Sanders event at all?
When was it held?
onenote
(42,383 posts)Sanders and other members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus attended. Sanders was one of the speakers. But it wasn't a "Sanders" event per se.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)This kind of brilliant PR tactic must explain his meteoric rise in the polls...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Is he at least close?
I haven't seen the latest polls.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Unless you're one of weak-minded birther types who will believe any lie no matter how far-fetched
merrily
(45,251 posts)Treating a single OP as though it were posted by all of DU's Sanders' supporters is therefore bizarre. If so much as one Sanders' supporter does something, I get accused of it, with answers demanded, no less. The Whacko of it all was amusing at times, but it's gotten very old.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)/hide thread.
Starting with this one...
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)you gave to get banned from the Sanders Group.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)eom
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)All I see is that Bernie is resonating with a LOT of Americans!
Totally exciting!
appalachiablue
(41,055 posts)are already overworked, I love it!
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BainsBane
(53,003 posts)that reveals a hostility to the concerns of people of color. You will not advance any politician's career by excluding them. Carry on with your efforts to delegtimate the voices of everyone but your select group. You clearly want nothing more than to make your candidate irrelevant. I would say your cause, but you have no cause. You have shown that any principle, economic or social cause is less important that uncritical reverence for a single politician, a great man you clearly value over your fellow citizens, especially the ones who dare to voice concerns of the subaltern.
Sanders is not racist. No one has claimed he is racist. Too many of his supporters, however, have showed your backsides. You cannot win an election with such a hostile, exclusionary attitude, but such behavior indicates that Sanders so-called supporters cannot possibly care about that because so many of their posts actively work to drive away voters. I suspect, however, that you will succeed in what you do care about: making this one website completely homogeneous in every way possible. The ten remaining posters of color may well leave in response to this disgusting demonstration of white privilege in GD before. Skinner has set up alternative platforms for Clinton supporters. He himself seems to have abandoned ship. So congratulations on creating an insular little website where anything but uncritical adoration for the one person the orthodoxy has chosen to stand above the citizenry. We see open war on the subaltern who dare to ask questions about someone they might consider voting for. There are only about a dozen active AA posters remaining on DU, if that. That tiny number in no way represents the make up of the Democratic party or America at large. But even that small number is too much for you, if they dare to question the man that you all have determined is superior to them and any and all citizens he seeks to represent.
I have little doubt that Sanders would be horrified at what is being carried out in his name. He deserves better. Most importantly, citizens, the 99 percent, deserve better. Here they get worse.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And may I add that Hillary supporters are showing their backsides in this very thread.
Fact is that we have a primary going in the Democratic Party, and it is important to scrutinize the candidates carefully.
As I said in a post above, the Nation magazine reports that Bernie Sanders backed Jesse Jackson in the 1988 election cycle. That should put to rest any questions about Bernie Sanders' possible racism. As you say, BainsBane, he is not.
Here is the Nation article. It is a one-sentence comment.
http://www.thenation.com/article/206521/bernies-race
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)that actively argue against scrutiny of candidates on issues of diversity?
I backed Jackson in 84 and 88 too. I was a delegate for Jackson in MN in 84. So what? That doesn't address the question of what Sanders, Clinton, or any other candidate will do for communities of color. And it certainly doesn't excuse calling anyone who asks the question of being a race-baiting troll.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)answering questions. He even talks to the press at every possible opportunity. Amazing isn't it?
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)Why is it that some of his supporters respond with such hostility when potential voters ask about his positions?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)You are among those who believe the citizenry has no right to ask a prospective candidate--at least Sanders--what he will do to address their concerns. You elevate a great man above the people he seeks to represent. The irony is that you have claimed to be a leftist, yet you reveal a profoundly conservative view of the role between citizen and elected official.
Now, one would think if someone supports a candidate, they would seek to inform the public about his view. But not here. Here hte goal is to target with contempt anyone who asks about a candidate's plans and accomplishments. The goal is not to persuade voters but to exclude. The astounding thing is that anyone could think the effect of that would be to do anything but turn voters off.
Sanders deserves far better than what is being carried out on this site in his name. Clearly some of his supporters lack his commitment to democracy, integrity, and transparency.
I used to consider you someone who upheld values and principle. I'm not sure how I had that impression, if you ever actually did, but it seems now your only response is to treat with hostility anyone you merely suspect of failing to conform to site orthodoxy. I will never hold any politician among the people he seeks to represent, and I cannot respect any conception of politics that does. It is neither Democratic nor democratic.
merrily
(45,251 posts)positions, asked in good faith.
Poster, please.
No one has asked a Bernie supporter an honest, good faith question and gotten anything but a sincere answer, often laden with links. Then again, there haven't been that many questions, just mostly smears, insinuations and the like.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If that's not a wonkish, detailed, specific list of policy proposals, I don't know what is.
merrily
(45,251 posts)very soon, I'm sure.
totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)you know what race I am? Some people may mention what their race is and you might be acquainted with some people. But surely you don't know everybody and some don't ever mention their race.
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)I pay attention to how they view these issues on the site. I see them discuss how many African American members have left the site due to hostility, and I read their frustrations about discussions that go on in GD. Of course African Americans aren't the only people of color, but their group is the most active. I can also tell from the way the many discuss issues, and the way they dismiss concerns of racism and, in some cases, resentment toward the party's appeal to women and people of color, that they themselves are white.
There is a certain kinship of sorts between certain safe haven groups on this site. Members of the African American group and many LGBT members have been particularly supportive of feminist issues. We have discussed our various backgrounds and our position relative to the dominant culture. Equal rights is a priority for me. I have participated in discussions on racism and sexism throughout my membership here. Overtime, I have learned a bit about some of the most active posters in those discussions, and in turn who reacts with hostility to our addressing those concerns. All of this precedes the Democratic primary. The issues have been there all along but are now coming to a head.
totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)participates in the AA group. And I don't think that you can always tell what someone's race is by their comments. After all AA's are a very diverse group with varying views on important issues and you cannot pigeonhole them. (Not that that's what you are trying to do.)
And BTW, I am Asian American and gay so I too know what it's like to be in a minority.
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)just on a post or two. It's only after time that I know certain posters, far from all. However, it is true that the majority demographic on this site is older, whiter, and more affluent than the national average. Skinner has said so.
merrily
(45,251 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)johnnyreb
(915 posts)Has any other candidate appeared with strikers?
http://www.google.com/images?q=bernie+sanders+with+strikers
http://www.google.com/images?q=hillary+clinton+with+strikers
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)He will be speaking at the Minneapolis American Indian Center this weekend. The union hall he originally planned to use was too small.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)annoying threads to the top, believing that DUers are actually buying the silly propaganda memes, if no one calls them on it.
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." - George W. Bush
valerief
(53,235 posts)fighting each other so the elite can plunder, plunder, plunder!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)in the bay during his announcement. OMG- he's a racist K&R
MFrohike
(1,980 posts)You know the type. They know everything there is to know about campaigning, but you've never seen their name on a ballot.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)If he didn't, then that's just it...Fail. He must be a woman-hater/misogynist and I demand he put us prominently in his next speech. There's a lot more of us than minorities. Oh right, we come in all colors. But...but...but Bernie Must Pay.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)On Thu May 28, 2015, 05:20 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Bernie Sanders, surrounded by lily white people:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026741009
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This OP is nothing but a call out and personal attack on DUers. The "put them on ignore" bit could not make that more clear. There is enough drama and garbage in this forum right now without this clear attempt at division and disruption.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 28, 2015, 05:27 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Accusing those not agreeing to vote for Sanders in a party primary "trolls who are race-baiting" is more than rude and offensive.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: As a Bernie supporter, this is far beneath the man. He would not endorse this post, so why make it?
The campaigns are about ideas, not posters here. Also, the term 'race baiting' has applied to black leaders by racist rightwing media.
Quit, please.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Yeah lets just hide this inconvenient truth. The Hillbots have lost their shit
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You mean someone is responding to the lame "Sanders campaign is racist" attacks which have been floated in the past 2 days? Heaven forfend. Well, lets try to get some Sanders people hidden- THAT will make sure Hillary is REALLY inevitable, this time!
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
marble falls
(56,359 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Hillary Rodham Clinton (L) rings the opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange.
akbacchus_BC
(5,700 posts)guess people of colour are not invited to his camp!