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notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
3. you forgot to add- they are too lazy to write their own legislation like they were elected and being
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:03 PM
May 2015

paid by tax payers to do. Talk about someone sucking off the government teat.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
6. Oh, I think they are lazy too
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:10 PM
May 2015

no doubt they do their master's bidding when the price is right. But can you imagine some of these idiots actually sitting down and composing a comprehensible piece of legislation? I can't.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
9. and I think plenty of them aren't particularly bright, either.
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:18 PM
May 2015

They couldn't come up with their own ideas on a bet.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
5. It's not illegal, though.
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:09 PM
May 2015

Anyone can create model legislation and send it to legislators in any state. What can be done is for us to create our own model legislation for consideration. Who knows? Maybe we are already doing that. Yes, ALEC is a corporate front and its legislative models are right-wing in nature. But that's not illegal, nor could or should it be made illegal.

Countering it with progressive model legislation is how to combat it.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. what they do goes far beyond writing model legislation. It's clear you haven't watched
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:19 PM
May 2015

the video

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
11. If they do things that break the law, they should be prosecuted.
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:22 PM
May 2015

Feeding legislative language to state legislators, however, is not illegal, and should not be. If the other side of the political spectrum isn't doing it, too, they're missing a bet.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
8. In a word, no
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:15 PM
May 2015

Some states have laws that actually encourage buying legislators with gifts, dinners, vacations, etc. I don't know if they still do so, but Public Citizen used to put out a "return on investment" calculation that showed the value of the tax breaks and other stuff lobbyists got in return for a few lunches and a game of golf. In some cases, the ratio was literally a million to one, with corporations getting a $10 million tax break in return for a few thousand dollars worth of booze and hors d' oeuvres.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
12. IANAL, but isn't it tax evasion to hide lobbying activities behind a charitable front?
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:12 PM
May 2015

ALEC has 503 (c)(3) nonprofit status, so they're supposed to be a charitable organization, but what they instead do is lobby legislators to the point of drafting model bills and conduct their doings in secret.

The only reason ALEC hasn't been busted by the IRS is that the IRS is underfunded--deliberately!

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