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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:29 PM May 2015

Ex-House Speaker Dennis Hastert Indicted On Federal Charges


Ex-House Speaker Dennis Hastert Indicted On Federal Charges

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
PublishedMay 28, 2015, 5:13 PM EDT


CHICAGO (AP) — Federal prosecutors have indicted former U.S. House Speaker House Dennis Hastert on bank-related charges.

A statement from the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago says the 73-year-old Illinois Republican is accused of structuring the withdrawal of $952,000 in cash in order to evade the requirement that banks report cash transactions over $10,000. He's also accused of lying to the FBI.


Read the full indictment @ link:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/former-speaker-dennis-hastert-indicted
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Ex-House Speaker Dennis Hastert Indicted On Federal Charges (Original Post) babylonsister May 2015 OP
Okay, you got my attention frazzled May 2015 #1
Your PS is on the mark. 7962 May 2015 #16
linked to that article- mopinko May 2015 #19
Seems like a win win... Canoe52 May 2015 #37
It just hit the evening news. "Individual A" may be someone who was being paid to be quiet MADem May 2015 #44
Local Chicago public affairs program puts 2 and 2 together frazzled May 2015 #52
Yes, it doesn't take a rocket scientist. MADem May 2015 #54
Lemme guess: he got a student pregnant? SunSeeker May 2015 #94
I don't think either of those are quite it. MADem May 2015 #98
I see, not so much a Sandusky as a Foley kind of thing. nt SunSeeker May 2015 #100
Maybe not even Foley, I really don't know. MADem May 2015 #101
Wow, you don't agree to pay $3.5 million unless its really, really bad Justice May 2015 #2
More GOP "patriotism" They love America so much they don't want to support the government, kelliekat44 May 2015 #57
No surprise, he was House Speaker during most of the Bush pResidency. Zorra May 2015 #3
Couldn't have happened to a bigger prick kysrsoze May 2015 #72
Wow, very serious charges! Spazito May 2015 #4
So did "person A" ASK for the money or did Hastert OFFER? 7962 May 2015 #17
Not really... Spazito May 2015 #24
I think it may be more that Hastert would be embarrassed among his so-called friends to admit to MADem May 2015 #49
It's difficult to say given the lack of details made public so far... Spazito May 2015 #55
I think Individual A is male. If anyone was taking bets, I'd put a grand down on it. MADem May 2015 #60
Given there were rumors back then, I wouldn't bet against your guess at all... Spazito May 2015 #66
The guy Hastert was always with was his Chief of Staff, Scott Palmer. MADem May 2015 #70
Rachel made an excellent point about how the indictment makes deliberate mention... Spazito May 2015 #75
He got married during that time frame, to the gym teacher at the school. MADem May 2015 #76
Excellent! AtomicKitten May 2015 #5
Oh Denny! What have you done?! Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. Avalux May 2015 #6
One down - two to go??? malaise May 2015 #9
One down, two to go. sulphurdunn May 2015 #21
Can't we get Rummy in there, too? nt valerief May 2015 #108
Yes, there's that picture.. mountain grammy May 2015 #23
or All American malaise May 2015 #31
Indeed! mountain grammy May 2015 #42
Chris Hayes is on the story malaise May 2015 #46
I am guessing it wasn't phrased that way. MADem May 2015 #53
I agree but but but malaise May 2015 #56
I was up on the Hill a lot way back when, and I heard a lot of rumors. MADem May 2015 #61
Rachel appears ready to change that malaise May 2015 #69
Yep. They nailed the low hanging fruit. Cleita May 2015 #28
GTA Issa should start to worry malaise May 2015 #32
I would dance on his grave if that happened. eom Cleita May 2015 #59
hear, hear!!! nt Stellar May 2015 #40
I can think of loads of equally deserving guys!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #27
I don't understand how withdrawing the money saves the williesgirl May 2015 #7
Doesnt make much sense. Withdrawals arent reported, as far as my experience. 7962 May 2015 #18
Could it be that he was wiring the money to the other person's account? Jamastiene May 2015 #36
I think he was taking it out in cash, and transferring it in cash. MADem May 2015 #51
Now my nosiness demands to know who "person A" is and what the cash was for!!! 7962 May 2015 #79
I think it was an ongoing effort to purchase silence. MADem May 2015 #88
I'm afraid its going to be something along the lines of an underage person. 7962 May 2015 #103
No. It only applies to cash transactions. 7962 May 2015 #77
Hmm, that is odd. Jamastiene May 2015 #81
Curious hell, I'm admitting to being NOSY!!! Who is Person A? 7962 May 2015 #83
I want to know who Person A is too. Jamastiene May 2015 #84
My understanding is that it's cash transactions totaling more than $10k during one day. Jim Lane May 2015 #43
If it's a recurring withdrawal, maybe they already know what it's for...? MADem May 2015 #67
Thats possible. Yes, its in cash every time. 7962 May 2015 #78
This is about hush money malaise May 2015 #47
There's no reporting requirement for small withdrawals. Jim Lane May 2015 #50
I think--not positive, trying to remember what I heard--that he withdrew 55K in CASH. MADem May 2015 #65
It sounds like basically the same way Spitzer got caught. Renew Deal May 2015 #116
Breaking on M$NBComcast malaise May 2015 #8
Menace Hasturd? Blue Owl May 2015 #10
This is just retribution for BENGAZZZIII!!1 progressoid May 2015 #11
Omilord! Jackpine Radical May 2015 #12
Glad to see federal agents doing their job... perdita9 May 2015 #13
Now that'll buy a lot of sausage! ybbor May 2015 #14
i knew something was up when he left the house. mopinko May 2015 #15
Yeah, I figure he buggered some high school boy. AngryAmish May 2015 #25
obvious conclusion. mopinko May 2015 #33
I worked on the House side back then Action_Patrol May 2015 #85
Probably get the Martha Stewart treatment; lying to the feds worse than the initial crime. nt 7962 May 2015 #20
Denny Sandusky d_b May 2015 #22
Pretty big payout for blackmail.. mountain grammy May 2015 #26
Maybe Sibel was right. johnnyreb May 2015 #29
Rachel just raised this malaise May 2015 #68
Dammit! Ya shoulda called me! johnnyreb May 2015 #71
LOL malaise May 2015 #90
There were also those Sibel Edmond allegations starroute May 2015 #30
Sibel's stuff specifically cites blackmail against Hastert starroute May 2015 #73
Thanks for the Mind Jog on this "Starroute." KoKo May 2015 #87
Interesting long term acquaintance..... Historic NY May 2015 #34
Wrestling coach, eh? tabasco May 2015 #35
In the immortal words of Nelson... Major Nikon May 2015 #38
Making Illinois proud. undeterred May 2015 #39
I didn't even know he was still alive. SoapBox May 2015 #41
Do you think the whole story will emerge? Stuart G May 2015 #45
Don't forget the Foley page scandal and Hastert's role: "willfully ignorant" Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #48
how long before Fox identifies Him as (D) Denny Hastert virtualobserver May 2015 #58
LOL. Yup. And the MSM just says he was "Speaker" without naming his party. nt SunSeeker May 2015 #96
Done! Raster May 2015 #107
Scott Palmer, former Chief of Staff? Sienna86 May 2015 #62
I think this is a relationship that predated Scott. It may have even predated his marriage in 73 MADem May 2015 #74
Candid photo of Hastert handing hush money check to go-between. lpbk2713 May 2015 #63
That took long enough. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #64
Ewwww.. remember when we all hated him! Cha May 2015 #80
Now? Jamastiene May 2015 #82
Heard about this in the car on NPR. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #86
Paying someone over $3 million dollars to keep quiet? Catherine Vincent May 2015 #89
How will this effect the GOP chances in '16? JoeOtterbein May 2015 #91
Amazing rpannier May 2015 #92
What I want to know is how the hell did a former school teach and wrestling coach... Raster May 2015 #93
Nailed it, Raster. hedda_foil May 2015 #97
He wiggled his way into Congress and became the Speaker of the House. MADem May 2015 #102
After the required six month waiting period, he first joined lobbying groups LanternWaste May 2015 #112
Originally gvstn May 2015 #99
Person A could be arrested also KinMd May 2015 #95
But Hastert would refuse to cooperate if he wants to keep matter secret. nt Sienna86 May 2015 #104
So when do you think we'll get the first Reich-wingnut email....? Grins May 2015 #105
FIFA officials and washed up politicos. KG May 2015 #106
My guess, for the record lebkuchen May 2015 #109
Gay pedophilia maindawg May 2015 #111
Why "Individual A" instead of just "an individual" Is there an "Individual B"or more? Tikki May 2015 #110
Right now, rumor has it there may have been babylonsister May 2015 #118
*Surprise!* Fearless May 2015 #113
So Denny Hastert pulled a Sandusky? Tarc May 2015 #114
Let me guess... cheated on his wife with a guy? Fearless May 2015 #115
and they all knew... the whole GOP mackerel May 2015 #117

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Okay, you got my attention
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:36 PM
May 2015

Here's the Tribune article (though I'm not sure links work if you're not a subscriber):

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-dennis-hastert-20150528-story.html

I want to know who Individual A is, what s/he was blackmailing him about (it must've been pretty good if they could get $3.5 million for it), and when the trial will be. As a resident of Illinois, for once I'd be intrigued to get a notice for jury duty!!


PS: This is a pretty huge story, and I'm surprised no one has responded to your thread. I guess they're too busy posting specious defenses against non-existent allegations of racism. My impression is that made-up shit gets way more traction here than real news. I'm about ready to bail on the joint.

mopinko

(70,074 posts)
19. linked to that article-
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:24 PM
May 2015

Former House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert has plowed through about $1 million in taxpayer dollars in the last two years for an office and staff in west suburban Yorkville, thanks to a little-known perk given to ex-speakers.

Hastert, 68, a lobbyist and business consultant who retired from Congress in 2007, has hired three of his former staffers at salaries of more than $100,000 apiece to run the publicly financed office.

Taxpayers also are paying monthly rent of $6,300 to a company partly owned by three sons of a Hastert mentor and business partner. Other public funds go for an $860-a-month 2008 GMC Yukon leased from a dealership owned by a Hastert friend and campaign donor.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-use-this-hastert-0218-20100217-story.html#page=2

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
37. Seems like a win win...
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:08 PM
May 2015

"I'm about ready to bail on the joint."

Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. It just hit the evening news. "Individual A" may be someone who was being paid to be quiet
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:59 PM
May 2015

about a personal relationship.

I don't think they're getting Hastert for the crime (and it wasn't a crime, I do not think--it was just a relationship that he did not want revealed...because it would make him look like a MASSIVE hypocrite) , they are getting him for the cover-up. He LIED to federal officials.

He said he was taking out the money and keeping it. He wasn't -- he was transferring it to another person. He lied about this more than once.

Don't lie to federal officials. Better to say "None of your fucking business."

I had heard rumors when I was in DC about this guy. Surprised nothing came out before now.

Never a good idea to live a lie.


PS: When things get posted at the east coast commute/dinner hour, there's often a lag. The thread will pick up. It's a big news story. And, as you know, in LBN...There Can Be Only ONE (thread, that is....).

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
52. Local Chicago public affairs program puts 2 and 2 together
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:14 PM
May 2015

from the indictment. Individual A has been and remains a resident of Yorkville, IL. That's where Hastert was a high-school teacher and wrestling coach for more than a decade before entering politics in 1981.

You do the math.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. Yes, it doesn't take a rocket scientist.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:20 PM
May 2015

It's not really surprising, either. This rumor has been in the air since he was the Speaker.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
94. Lemme guess: he got a student pregnant?
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:30 AM
May 2015

Or is it more along the lines of trapping a boy in the showers?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
98. I don't think either of those are quite it.
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:48 AM
May 2015

I think he had an inappropriate relationship with a member of the wrestling team.

The word "misconduct" is a very different word from "abuse." I think the use of the word is deliberate.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
101. Maybe not even Foley, I really don't know.
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:02 AM
May 2015

Foley was flirting with underaged teens.

I think Hastert had a relationship with a member of the team. I don't know if the team member was at the age of consent, or what. It would be improper because of the coach/teacher-student aspect; it may not have been "criminal" in accordance with the law at the time....even if it was, there may be a statute of limitations.

I remember hearing mumbling about this, hell, twenty years ago, or more. Everyone was waiting for the other shoe to drop, and it never did.

The Wheels of the Gods Grind Slowly....

Justice

(7,185 posts)
2. Wow, you don't agree to pay $3.5 million unless its really, really bad
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:41 PM
May 2015

Otherwise, just do what Letterman did - come out and tell the truth, don't allow the blackmailer to win.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
57. More GOP "patriotism" They love America so much they don't want to support the government,
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:26 PM
May 2015

Think about how long it would take a "welfare queen" to cheat the Feds out of that much money. RWingers really don't want to pay their fair share of the tax burden .

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
3. No surprise, he was House Speaker during most of the Bush pResidency.
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:43 PM
May 2015

Birds of a feather flock together.

Spazito

(50,269 posts)
4. Wow, very serious charges!
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:44 PM
May 2015

"According to the indictment, in 2010, Hastert agreed to provide Individual A $3.5 million in order to compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct against Individual A. From 2010 to 2014, Hastert withdrew a total of approximately $1.7 million in cash from various bank accounts and provided it to Individual A."

http://wgntv.com/2015/05/28/former-speaker-of-house-dennis-hastert-indicted-on-corruption-charges/

A "prior misconduct" worth 3.5 million to keep quiet, geez, must be a pretty ugly act on his part.

Spazito

(50,269 posts)
24. Not really...
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

the charges are bank-related charges plus lying to the FBI. The issue of the reason he was illegally withdrawing the money is tangential to the charges not central to them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. I think it may be more that Hastert would be embarrassed among his so-called friends to admit to
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:06 PM
May 2015

the so-called "misconduct."

The charges that are getting him in trouble are "bank related," not about where he may, or may not, have put his sexual organ.

Spazito

(50,269 posts)
55. It's difficult to say given the lack of details made public so far...
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:22 PM
May 2015

We do know it involves someone who has known him for years so it is most likely a personal rather than a professional 'relationship'. We don't know if Individual A is female or male.

You make a good point as to the current charges although further charges can still be added at any time if there is evidence warranting them. I do think it is something very unsavory, at best, for him to be willing to pay 3.5 million and break the law to hide the payments.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. I think Individual A is male. If anyone was taking bets, I'd put a grand down on it.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:40 PM
May 2015

I'm not a bettor on a normal day, and I'm cheap, too. I also don't have money to throw around. But some things are almost a sure bet. That's simply based on the rumors I heard when I was working in DC and was on the Hill a lot. He was regarded as the Hypocrite of the Year, to put it mildly. Mike Rogers wasn't yet "on the case," but people were talking about him even before he became Speaker.

I had heard the "wrestling coach" story way back then--of course, it never went anywhere and no one was inclined to follow up in the lapdog media at the time. Apparently a news outlet is confirming that it's someone from the community where Hastert was doing that coaching. There may be a statute of limitations issue, or an age-of-consent threshhold that was passed, which is why they are using the "misconduct" word (notwithstanding that it's never a good idea for a teacher to mess with a student, even in a coach-athlete scenario) rather than language like "sexual assault" or anything even more dire.

If it turns out to be something else (well, there were those guys who lived with him in the bachelor pad--and he NEVER went home to his district--that's not an impossibility, either) I will be surprised.

Spazito

(50,269 posts)
66. Given there were rumors back then, I wouldn't bet against your guess at all...
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:02 PM
May 2015

I wonder if the media, having ignored the rumors previously, will now pursue the "misconduct" that Hastert was so desperate to hide, I hope so.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
70. The guy Hastert was always with was his Chief of Staff, Scott Palmer.
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:16 PM
May 2015

He's the miserable looking guy in the center of the photo.




Apparently they'd been together for years since his first campaign. They lived together which was unusual in the extreme for a boss-subordinate relationship.

On the rare occasions when Mrs. Hastert came to town, she stayed at the Willard, I think.

Lawrence O'Donnell's take from way-back-when: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/who-is-scott-palmer_b_31171.html

Spazito

(50,269 posts)
75. Rachel made an excellent point about how the indictment makes deliberate mention...
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:43 PM
May 2015

of the years he was a coach while not noting other times he was doing other things. As Rachel says, "Watch this space", more to come over time I am sure.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
76. He got married during that time frame, to the gym teacher at the school.
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:48 PM
May 2015

That's the wife that never came to DC...well, hardly ever.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
6. Oh Denny! What have you done?! Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

I will be very interested to see how all of this unfolds, it doesn't bode well for the ex-speaker's future.

malaise

(268,902 posts)
46. Chris Hayes is on the story
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:02 PM
May 2015

Hush money for blackmail ---where are my freaking chocolates - this is delish.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. I am guessing it wasn't phrased that way.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:19 PM
May 2015

I am guessing it was phrased something on the lines of this:

"I've already pitched my book idea to a publisher, and I've been offered a three and a half million dollar advance for my story....."

Hey, a person's gotta make a living, don't they? If writing salacious books about their affair with a former famous government official at the highest levels of power, who knew where a lot of bodies were buried, and who maybe kissed and told, is a way to make a living, and if some of the featured players in the book don't want that information to come out, well....it is what it is.

It ain't really blackmail, it's an accommodation. He could choose to let the book come out, and let those chips fall where they may. I'm guessing he didn't want to do that, because he's so invested in not telling the truth.

Imagine what would happen if the truth came out....and no one--save those putting a check mark on his You Big Stinking Hypocrite card --really cared?

malaise

(268,902 posts)
56. I agree but but but
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:25 PM
May 2015

that would damage his precious reputation and he was the longest serving ReTHUG Speaker in history. Remember these words now - pure as the driven snow...NOT. It's always the coverup that catches these scumbags.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
61. I was up on the Hill a lot way back when, and I heard a lot of rumors.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:48 PM
May 2015

Of course, that's all they were. The media wasn't inclined to go digging, but it's not like this was a huge secret to anyone who had any friends or acquaintances up there--or even saw the guy coming into work or going home with his little "entourage."

Hell, even the interns were clued in--as were the pages (ask former Rep. Foley about that business).

I love the fact that the charges are BANK RELATED, and I'm fine if they stay that way, even if the whole truth and nothing but comes out. We don't need this guy playing the "I'm being persecuted" card--and if things get rough enough, he'll probably try that.

williesgirl

(4,033 posts)
7. I don't understand how withdrawing the money saves the
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

10K reporting requirement. I thought it had to be reported following deposit? Why isn't the MSM jumping all over this?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
18. Doesnt make much sense. Withdrawals arent reported, as far as my experience.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:23 PM
May 2015

One of my jobs requires me to withdraw between 70-100K at one time each week. I never fill out the form. But if I bring in 10k the bank makes me fill it out.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
36. Could it be that he was wiring the money to the other person's account?
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:07 PM
May 2015

Wouldn't that meet the 10k requirement for the other person?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. I think he was taking it out in cash, and transferring it in cash.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:08 PM
May 2015

He came to the attention of the feds because he initially exceeding the ten K limit. Then, after being advised of that, he started taking out amounts UNDER ten K to avoid scrutiny, but by then the 55K horse had already left the barn. He was on their radar.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
88. I think it was an ongoing effort to purchase silence.
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:47 PM
May 2015

And the silence being purchased was as a consequence of behavior that was, at a minimum, "inappropriate" and characterized as "misconduct." If it was more, we'd have to know the identity of Person A, and how old this person was when Hastert and this individual intersected.

I wonder what Mrs. Hastert will do? I don't think she and he are close. She may have known more about him than we realized.

She might want to dump and run, to get half before the lawyers take it all...!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
103. I'm afraid its going to be something along the lines of an underage person.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:15 AM
May 2015

Otherwise, I dont see why person A would be un named.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
81. Hmm, that is odd.
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:22 PM
May 2015

I guess we will have to wait and see what the actual charges against him are. I'm curious about it now.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
83. Curious hell, I'm admitting to being NOSY!!! Who is Person A?
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:25 PM
May 2015

But from my own dealings, it only applies to cash. I guess they dont think drug dealers do many ACH transfers or wire transactions!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
84. I want to know who Person A is too.
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:31 PM
May 2015

I'm almost afraid to find out though. If what he did was worth $3.5 million or $4 million (I have seen both numbers being used) to keep quiet, it had to be really bad. I just hope it is not another Sandusky type situation. That is always horrible to find out. Still, I'm thinking that much money, it had to be something major he was trying to hide.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
43. My understanding is that it's cash transactions totaling more than $10k during one day.
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:57 PM
May 2015

I've been asked for my SSN, so that the bank could do a Cash Transaction Report, when withdrawing more than $10k in cash or when depositing more than $10k in cash.

BUT I've never been asked to fill out the form. I just provide the information (name, SSN, and, I think, home address); the bank does the reporting.

In your case, perhaps they got your name and SSN the first time, and after that they remembered you and didn't need to ask again. It's quite possible that a CTR form was filed about your withdrawal each week without your knowledge. If they required a form for deposits, perhaps that was the bank's own rule or some other government regulation (state, maybe).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
67. If it's a recurring withdrawal, maybe they already know what it's for...?
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:03 PM
May 2015

Were you taking it out in cash? And is it a business account? Those might get a different look than a personal account.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
78. Thats possible. Yes, its in cash every time.
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:17 PM
May 2015

And also a business acct. But a crook could open a business account by simply saying its a business acct.
But maybe like you said, they did it once and now know what its for every week.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
50. There's no reporting requirement for small withdrawals.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:08 PM
May 2015

The allegation is that Hastert, wanting to withdraw $50k in cash to give to Individual A, went to the bank on several different days, each time withdrawing less than $10k. That saved the requirement because the reporting kicks in only if there's a cash transaction or series of cash transactions totaling more than $10k in any one day.

Doing it that way for the purpose of evading the reporting requirement, however, is called "structuring" and it's a felony. Hastert isn't charged with making illegal payments but with structuring, which is a felony even if the cash is withdrawn for a perfectly legitimate purpose.

It was pretty silly of Hastert to get busted over reporting. He should have signed a settlement agreement with Individual A: Individual A has asserted certain claims (definitely NOT spelled out in case any media get hold of the agreement), Hastert denies liability, parties wish to resolve their difference, Hastert without admitting guilt will make payments on the following schedule, Individual A will keep this agreement and his/her underlying claims confidential. Then Hastert gives the person checks and there's no cash transaction to report.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. I think--not positive, trying to remember what I heard--that he withdrew 55K in CASH.
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:59 PM
May 2015

That triggered a "HUH?" He was asked about it, and instead of saying "Back off" or "None of your business, talk to my lawyer, do-you-know-who-I-AAAAAMMMMMM?" he lied. Even if he said "I'm giving this money to a friend, now go away" he would have been OK. Instead, he said he took the money out because he didn't trust banks and was keeping it at home. Yeah, right.

Then he kept taking out money just under the limit. By then he was on their radar.

It's not the crime (or "misconduct&quot that is at issue anymore, it's the cover-up. Lying to federal officials is a jail-able offense.

mopinko

(70,074 posts)
15. i knew something was up when he left the house.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:14 PM
May 2015

didn't he step down mid-term?
somebody has some juicy pictures.

eta- child sex abuse, perhaps? he was a wrestling coach.

eta, he stepped down 11 months into his term after dems retook the house.

i knew then that there was a story.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
85. I worked on the House side back then
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:35 PM
May 2015

He had a lot of health issues and the loss of power coupled with those made sense for him to step aside. These allegations really just put a bow on the pretty package and make it make far more sense.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
29. Maybe Sibel was right.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:38 PM
May 2015
Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds is accusing the FBI of covering up improper contacts and financial dealings between certain Turkish nationals and the office of House Speaker Dennis Hastert. We speak with Sibel Edmonds and Vanity Fair journalist David Rose. [includes rush transcript]
http://www.democracynow.org/2005/8/10/did_speaker_hastert_accept_turkish_bribes


June 1, 2008
Sibel Edmonds Case: Dennis Hastert to receive payoffs for 'services rendered'
So, former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds is again proved right. For more than a year Sibel has been predicting that Dennis Hastert will join a lobbying firm involved with Turkey, and now we learn that Hastert is joining Dickstein Shapiro.

In the "Representative Engagements" section of Dickstein's website, we learn that they represented "the government of Turkey in connection with the development and financing by private sponsors of the Baku-Ceyhan oil pipeline and TransCaspian gas pipeline spanning from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean."
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/06/sibel-edmonds-case-dennis-hastert-to.html

malaise

(268,902 posts)
68. Rachel just raised this
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:14 PM
May 2015

Damn!!

Maybe that coaching thing - Mr.A knows about something at the high school

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
71. Dammit! Ya shoulda called me!
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:24 PM
May 2015

I was working on the latest war-criminal-of-a-rethug "28 pages" thread.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
30. There were also those Sibel Edmond allegations
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:44 PM
May 2015

Though those don't seem like "misconduct against an individual."

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/8/10/did_speaker_hastert_accept_turkish_bribes

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds is accusing the FBI of covering up improper contacts and financial dealings between certain Turkish nationals and the office of House Speaker Dennis Hastert. We speak with Sibel Edmonds and Vanity Fair journalist David Rose. . . .

Vanity Fair alleges that Hastert may have been the recipient of tens of thousands of dollars of secret payments from Turkish officials in exchange for political favors and information. In the article, titled "An Inconvenient Patriot," Edmonds says that she gave confidential testimony about the payments to congressional staffers, the Inspector General and members of the 9/11 Commission. Edmonds says that she heard of the payments while listening to FBI wiretaps of Turkish officials who were under surveillance by the FBI.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
73. Sibel's stuff specifically cites blackmail against Hastert
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:33 PM
May 2015

Here's Brad Friedman in 2009 describing the allegations:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brad-friedman/fbi-whistleblower-hastert_b_277704.html

Dennis Hastert: "Several categories. The acceptance of large sums of bribery in forms of cash or laundered cash ... to make it look legal for his campaigns, and also for his personal use, in order to do certain favors ... make certain things happen for foreign entities and foreign governments' interests, Turkish government's interest and Turkish business entities' interests. ... other activities, too, including being blackmailed for various reasons. ... he used the townhouse that was not his residence for certain not very morally accepted activities. ... foreign entities knew about this, in fact, they sometimes participated in some of those not maybe morally well activities in that particular townhouse that was supposed to be an office, not a house, residence at certain hours, certain days, evenings of the week."

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
87. Thanks for the Mind Jog on this "Starroute."
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:40 PM
May 2015

Could justice finally be coming after all this time for Sibel's revelations....?

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
45. Do you think the whole story will emerge?
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:00 PM
May 2015

Like who was he paying off, and why? Did he do something in return for those payments? Was that legal?...

Let's wait for the next installment of.....

...When the Hastert turns, around, and around and around...

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
48. Don't forget the Foley page scandal and Hastert's role: "willfully ignorant"
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:05 PM
May 2015
In a December 2006, the House Ethics Committee determined that Hastert and other congressional leaders were "willfully ignorant" in responding to early warnings of the Mark Foley congressional page scandal, but did not violate any House rules.[19][20]
-- Wikipedia

Kind of plays into the speculation about sexual misconduct from his years as wrestling and football coach?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
74. I think this is a relationship that predated Scott. It may have even predated his marriage in 73
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:36 PM
May 2015

They lived together, Hastert and Palmer. Scott may have even served as a fixer, keeping people 'in line,' preventing any leaks or tragedies ... who knows?

The Hastert marriage was kind of strange (I guess they are still together, on paper, anyway) --they did not spend much time together, when she came to DC she stayed in a hotel, even though he had a good sized house in a convenient location. Odd.

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/p/dennishastert.htm

What's so unusual about this situation is that he was an accidental speaker. It should have been LIVINGSTON, but he was scandal-plagued and had to back out! Then, he resigned...and here's the kicker--you know who replaced him? David "Diaper Boy" Vitter!!!!

I mean, damn...! So many scandals, so little time....

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
91. How will this effect the GOP chances in '16?
Thu May 28, 2015, 11:09 PM
May 2015

(If it was a former DEM power-broker

24/7 for at least a week until everyone, including republicans, beg for it to stop.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
92. Amazing
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:28 AM
May 2015

If I understood correctly, he withdrew about 1.7 mill at less than 10k a pop

That's a hell of a lot of withdrawals

Raster

(20,998 posts)
93. What I want to know is how the hell did a former school teach and wrestling coach...
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:42 AM
May 2015

...accumulate that kind of wealth?

I know, the question is somewhat rhetorical.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
102. He wiggled his way into Congress and became the Speaker of the House.
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:04 AM
May 2015

Then he became a lobbyist!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
112. After the required six month waiting period, he first joined lobbying groups
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:50 PM
May 2015

After the required six month waiting period, he first joined lobbying groups, and then started one of his own. There's some pretty good money in that.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
99. Originally
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:50 AM
May 2015

It was $50,000 every 6 weeks for two years (which probably is what got him flagged). Then it was $100,000 every 3 months, which is when he started doing the $10,000 at a time thing.

Nobody has mentioned this but I think the Feds monitor all large cash transactions even under $10,000 because they know a lot of people would just take out a couple of $9000 if they wanted to attempt to stay of the radar.

Grins

(7,205 posts)
105. So when do you think we'll get the first Reich-wingnut email....?
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:42 AM
May 2015

So when do you think we'll get first Reich-wingnut email from their Noise and Rage Factory™ telling me how Hillary/Obama forced the new attorney general to go after Hastert in order to divert our attention from Benghazi, the Mooslims, abortion factories, forbidding prayer in schools, immigration, the IRS, and/or destroying the Constitution to bring the United States under the Caliphate, and to make Sharia the supreme law of the land. Huh? Huh?

Note: If they can blame Baltimore/Ferguson/tornadoes/etc. on Obamacare or lack of prayer, you just KNOW one is coming.

KG

(28,751 posts)
106. FIFA officials and washed up politicos.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:47 AM
May 2015

low hanging fruit, when the real financial criminals are buying second super yachts

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
111. Gay pedophilia
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:36 PM
May 2015

The entire leadership of the GOP are so twisted that they have morphed into a cartoon. Reality so bizarre its mind numbing. It unbelievable to the point that it goes full circle to a new reality where up is down.
Its ok to be a child molester but if your sexuality does not meet what some RWNJ considers what his version of jis god would approve thats bad and they think our country was based on that same non existent imaginary god thing they believe in. They are crazy and they are in charge of our nation !
Now this discusting old pervert who still sucks us for millions of our tax dollars running his racquet will
probably be praised for being a great man by the other criminals who are the leaders of our country .

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