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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:29 PM May 2015

House Dem: Left has 'hijacked' party message

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/243435-house-dem-left-has-hijacked-partys-message

House Dem: Left has 'hijacked' party message

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By Kevin Cirilli - 05/29/15 11:45 AM EDT


Rep. John Delaney (Md.), a centrist House Democrat, on Friday warned that voices on the left have "hijacked" his party’s message.

"With Washington already broken, the last thing we need is a left-wing version of the tea party," Delaney wrote in a Washington Post op-ed published online Thursday evening. "But I am worried about where some of the loudest voices in the room could take the Democratic Party."

He said Democrats' "party microphone has been hijacked by people more interested in scoring points than in solving problems."


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"A fair trade deal is a crucial step in bolstering the U.S. manufacturing renaissance, boosting U.S. exports and growing our economy," Delaney wrote. "Unfortunately, Democratic recalcitrance is increasing the chance that the deal could be done instead by a Republican president."

Aside from trade, Delaney criticized those in his party advocating to expand Social Security, something Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has been pushing in his presidential bid.

"They propose expanding Social Security rather than prioritizing serious efforts to preserve the program — even though it will be unable to provide full benefits as soon as 2032, the Congressional Budget Office has made clear," Delaney said. "The only way a large-scale expansion could work is by allocating new revenue away from needed investments in the next generation or by shifting the financial burden to workers or our children."

Delaney also criticized those in his party who he said want to "relitigate the financial crisis" of 2008.


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House Dem: Left has 'hijacked' party message (Original Post) babylonsister May 2015 OP
Actually, the DLC/Third Way crowd is far more comparable to the Tea Party--and the Kochs were merrily May 2015 #1
Seems that Mr. Delaney is a bit confused enlightenment May 2015 #2
Just folks here that openy admit they are fans of the Third Way LondonReign2 May 2015 #20
He's a dinosaur who doesn't realize business as usual Warpy May 2015 #36
Mr Delaney seems to be wrong about everything. rock May 2015 #44
God forbid. peecoolyour May 2015 #3
...... daleanime May 2015 #4
AKA they aren't right wing enough AgingAmerican May 2015 #5
fuck you asswipe cali May 2015 #6
Or, from the cinematic classic awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #50
+1000 bravenak May 2015 #54
Don't mince words Cali Jesus Malverde May 2015 #80
Centrists make me vomit CTBlueboy May 2015 #7
The problem with the Democratic Party.... kentuck May 2015 #8
Agian we here from a Wellstone ruled May 2015 #14
I was curious so I read up on Delaney Art_from_Ark May 2015 #82
"The loudest voices in the room" are dollars... Orsino May 2015 #9
^^^THIS^^^ mike_c May 2015 #43
Well Mr Delaney if you want to be a Republican run as a Republican INdemo May 2015 #10
"the last thing we need is a left-wing version of the tea party" deutsey May 2015 #11
Are we sure he doesn't post at DU? He seems to have the "left = right" bs down pat. merrily May 2015 #55
How ironic, since the Tea Party and Centrist both embrace 'free trade'. Rex May 2015 #12
The tea party hates "free trade". They call it "Obamatrade". pampango May 2015 #47
Even a broke clock is right twice a day. Vincardog May 2015 #52
Tea party republicans are "digital clocks". They're broken and they're never right. pampango May 2015 #56
If they oppose the TPP they score one with me. Vincardog May 2015 #57
+1000000 woo me with science May 2015 #74
Yeah, the tea party hates TPP..& they're never right about a damn thing-regardless of broken clocks Cha May 2015 #84
If only all Dems could be like Sen. Sanders. ananda May 2015 #13
Go rot LeftOfWest May 2015 #15
Delaney's a third wayer. He's currently part of a catfood commission in Congress octoberlib May 2015 #16
Ahoy, maties! Man from Pickens May 2015 #17
Which party is he talking about? And what message? arcane1 May 2015 #18
F U Delaney !!! WillyT May 2015 #19
He sounds a bit disgruntled that Democrats want their party to represent THE PEOPLE. sabrina 1 May 2015 #21
meaning "wah wah...I may lose some of my way-too-much money" NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #22
All those "lefties". FDR, John Kennedy, LBJ, Robert Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, etc. and etc.. mmonk May 2015 #23
a left-wing version of the tea party is exactly we need bowens43 May 2015 #24
The DLC/Third Way/New Democrat wing of the party is to liberal what decaf is to coffee. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #25
New Democrat = Old 1970's Republican meow2u3 May 2015 #68
He's an asshole who wants to cut SS. Fuck him! CharlotteVale May 2015 #26
I wonder how many zeros Hillary had to put on his check to his Super Pac. Exilednight May 2015 #27
Hmm... kenfrequed May 2015 #30
Possibly. Although I am sure he wouldn't turn down a check if it were offered. It does Exilednight May 2015 #31
well... kenfrequed May 2015 #35
Another classy,fact free anti Hillary post. nt sufrommich May 2015 #38
Feel free to put me on ignore if that statement offends you. I won't take it personally. Exilednight May 2015 #41
Yup workinclasszero May 2015 #59
That sums up 99.9% of the Hillary hit-comments here. nt stevenleser May 2015 #64
Why are you doing this shit? Have you ever thought about posting at FR! B Calm May 2015 #58
See Keith Olbermann's 2008 special comment on Hillary. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #61
Delaney needs to be primaried anyhow kenfrequed May 2015 #28
He sounds EXACTLY like a republican. Exactly like a republican. djean111 May 2015 #29
spokesperson from the obama wing of the republican party lol nt msongs May 2015 #32
deja vu 2003, and after every failed election...blame the left. madfloridian May 2015 #33
"UN-hijacked" actually. Agony May 2015 #34
My thoughts exactly. bvar22 May 2015 #45
You speak the truth but with more flair than I... Agony May 2015 #48
They all need to go back to the GOP zipplewrath May 2015 #37
I doubt this Delaney has ever thought about drifting to the left... NEVER SUMMER May 2015 #39
Hijacked, I can live with that and I bet millions of American voters can too. n/t Jefferson23 May 2015 #40
Oh, bullshit. hifiguy May 2015 #42
Classic third way false choice presented dreamnightwind May 2015 #46
When asked who he supported for President FlatBaroque May 2015 #49
Hijacked? Fuck that. We're taking it back! nt. neverforget May 2015 #51
John Delaney: Private Equity Investment Executive, Lawyer, Medical Services Company Owner hatrack May 2015 #53
Ever notice how the neoliberals pushing the TPP corporate enrichment deal... 99Forever May 2015 #60
That son of a bitch lied to my face when he was campaining hootinholler May 2015 #62
Fuck Delaney, fuck the TPP. n/t X_Digger May 2015 #63
There's that Third Way messaging problem again. woo me with science May 2015 #65
Good for him. BKH70041 May 2015 #66
Or we can take back OUR party and let you folks figure out which side you're on. hay rick May 2015 #73
Jesus on a pogo stick! TM99 May 2015 #78
Or maybe the "centrists" like him can go back to the Republican party kcr May 2015 #79
How about we let you all form your own party or go back to the Republicans? Katashi_itto May 2015 #83
Nobody's proposing to relitigate the financial crisis... JHB May 2015 #67
These 3rd Way 'Democrats' hate their fellow Democrats RandiFan1290 May 2015 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots May 2015 #70
Here's a hint what kind of businessman/banker Delaney was: Faryn Balyncd May 2015 #71
What message is he talking about? Boomerproud May 2015 #72
I don't like this guy. freshwest May 2015 #75
lol.. I actually thinks he makes a couple of good points.. Cha May 2015 #85
Dispicable MannyGoldstein May 2015 #76
sounds like some of the shit I read right here ibegurpard May 2015 #77
With Democrats like him, who needs republicans? Our party could do bad by all ourselves. nt Zorra May 2015 #81
Dear Representative Delany, bite me. Scuba May 2015 #86
I see a problem stinking to high heaven that we need to solve right now, LWolf May 2015 #87
John Delaney needs to go be the republican that he actually is. DINOs are way too RiverLover May 2015 #88
I proudly stand with President Obama./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #89

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Actually, the DLC/Third Way crowd is far more comparable to the Tea Party--and the Kochs were
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:31 PM
May 2015

involved in both, too.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
20. Just folks here that openy admit they are fans of the Third Way
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:04 PM
May 2015

With the Republican party openly becoming insane we have more than a fair share of folks who would have been Republicans just 10-20 years ago. Problem is, like the Rep quoted above, they are still pushing moderate Republican economic policy.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
36. He's a dinosaur who doesn't realize business as usual
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:00 PM
May 2015

isn't selling well to people who have been excluded from reaping the rewards, which would be roughly 99% of the American public.

Such men will always rail against "the left" as though it's something new and aberrant. It's not.

The call for economic justice is as old as the human race. Men like Delaney are deaf to it.

 

CTBlueboy

(154 posts)
7. Centrists make me vomit
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:37 PM
May 2015

So acting like a true democrat makes you part of the fringe left huh ?

so to Mr. Delaney , Democrats must obey and allow the corporate takeover of the party

Of course he doesn't care about issues that affect the poor and middle class when you millions sitting in your account ( John K. Delaney (D-Md) ranks 2nd in the House with an estimated net worth* of $222,410,577 in 2013.) http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/summary.php?cid=N00033897&year=2013

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Agian we here from a
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:55 PM
May 2015

quintessential D.C. insider. Must really suck to be enlightened to the fact,rank and file Democrats are pleading for a return to Policies that are tried and proven to work. Like Hubert Humphrey said,you have to perkulate the economy from the bottom up and not from the top down. Another clue is,do you know what the price of a loaf of bread is,when you do not know,you are very well off and you need to share your wealth or get back to reality.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
82. I was curious so I read up on Delaney
Sat May 30, 2015, 05:37 AM
May 2015

I hope they can primary this guy-- he really sounds like the quintessential R masquerading as a D.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0522/128.html

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
9. "The loudest voices in the room" are dollars...
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:43 PM
May 2015

...and I am very worried about where they have taken us--to the point, for example, where party hacks wring their hands at the mere mention of concerns affecting most of us.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
10. Well Mr Delaney if you want to be a Republican run as a Republican
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:45 PM
May 2015

We have enough Republican lites and the "leftists" as you accuse us as if we were some radical political party. Research the Democratic Party history and then you will see You Don't belong.You should not be a political figure with a "D"in front of their name.

In other words Mr. Delaney STFU

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. How ironic, since the Tea Party and Centrist both embrace 'free trade'.
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:48 PM
May 2015

I guess he doesn't look in the mirror much.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
47. The tea party hates "free trade". They call it "Obamatrade".
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:07 PM
May 2015
http://obamatrade.com/

Polls show they oppose TPP, TPA, WTO, more than any other partisan group.

Cha

(297,104 posts)
84. Yeah, the tea party hates TPP..& they're never right about a damn thing-regardless of broken clocks
Sat May 30, 2015, 05:46 AM
May 2015
 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
15. Go rot
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:58 PM
May 2015

So sick of 'centrist' and 'conservative' dems. What are you CONSERVATIVE about????? Women and minorities? Sucking up to the criminal 1%? Tell us all what you are centrist and conservative about, you can't. Because it would show you are no a Democrat but a MeMeMeocrat.



Corporate owned liars all. Scratch a little on them and them and there it comes, 'me me me', 'mine, mine, mine'.

i want the criminals of 2007/08 IN JAIL. You wanna drink Tea with them Delaney. Self serving right wing 1% puppet master.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
16. Delaney's a third wayer. He's currently part of a catfood commission in Congress
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:59 PM
May 2015

Last edited Fri May 29, 2015, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)

with Republicans , trying to cut SS

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
18. Which party is he talking about? And what message?
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:59 PM
May 2015

It seems he's the one who is trying to "score points"

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. He sounds a bit disgruntled that Democrats want their party to represent THE PEOPLE.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:05 PM
May 2015

When is he up for reelection? Time clear out all the 'centirsts' who care more about poor Wall St than the people who elected them.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,013 posts)
22. meaning "wah wah...I may lose some of my way-too-much money"
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:13 PM
May 2015

more and more evidence that an awful lot of current Democratic politicians are simply republican lite - more concerned with their own wealth than their supposed constituents.

"centrist" and "moderate" and "libertarian" - probably undecided and independent as well - are just synonyms for "conservative republicans" that don't have the guts to say it. It's all about them and only them and their needs.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
23. All those "lefties". FDR, John Kennedy, LBJ, Robert Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, etc. and etc..
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:20 PM
May 2015

Whole lot of hijacking going on.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
68. New Democrat = Old 1970's Republican
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:48 PM
May 2015

The DLC/Third Way/New Democrat wing is a corporate-backed fifth column. They think exactly like the establishment Republicans did before the RWNJs took over.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
30. Hmm...
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:35 PM
May 2015

While I am not a fan of Hillary as a candidate, I think Delaney is corporatist enough to sell out on his own.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
31. Possibly. Although I am sure he wouldn't turn down a check if it were offered. It does
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:39 PM
May 2015

Reek of 2008 hillary campaign. A nice Op-Ed attacking your opponent without your name attached.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
35. well...
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:54 PM
May 2015

I would expect any third-way democrat to complain about this regardless of who was running for president. To me it is less about hillary and more about the ideology of the third way people. It is a failed strategy that does nothing to forward progressive ideas or values.

I imagine Rahm Immanuel will say something about it. Max Bacchus or Steny Hoyer will probably chime in as well bemoaning the idea that the democrats have gone too far to the left.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
28. Delaney needs to be primaried anyhow
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:34 PM
May 2015

Another "Third way" shill that really doesn't represent progressives anyhow.

Maybe he should accept that the majority of democrats don't agree with him and stop accusing progressives of 'hijacking.'

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
29. He sounds EXACTLY like a republican. Exactly like a republican.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:35 PM
May 2015

Fuck him and his Third Way bullshit. What he is spewing is GOP talking points. Out in the open. Game over.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
45. My thoughts exactly.
Fri May 29, 2015, 05:59 PM
May 2015

In the early 80s, the Democratic Party was hi-Jacked by Republicans and High Rolling Wall Street Bankers.
We are working to "UN-hijack" the Democratic Party.

FDR Economic Bill of Rights

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be[font size=3] established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.[/font]

Among these are:

*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

*The right of every family to a decent home;

*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

*The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
---FDR, 1944, SOTU


Please note that the above are stipulated as Basic Human RIGHTS to be protected by our government,
and NOT as COMMODITIES to be SOLD to Americans by For Profit Corporations.

There was a time when voting FOR The Democrat
was voting FOR the above values.
Sadly, this is no longer true.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
48. You speak the truth but with more flair than I...
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:10 PM
May 2015

Hopefully your Asparagus is still tender and plentiful.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
37. They all need to go back to the GOP
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:01 PM
May 2015

Really, the best thing they could do for the country, and for the GOP is to join the GOP all at once. Take all the blue dogs and all the Third Way bunch, as well as the former DLC'ers. Take the whole gang and in one day switch to the GOP. Then we'd have a true opposition party and we could have these debates. It's be the best thing they could do for the country. It would overwhelm the nut jobs in the GOP and they'd either go all "third party" or just stop voting. And we could go back to the days of Eisenhower and Rockefeller and debate just what Social Security should be, not IF it should be. We could discuss gun control, and international policy, and monetary policy, and trade.....

Instead we have the nut jobs versus the adults in the room.

 

NEVER SUMMER

(26 posts)
39. I doubt this Delaney has ever thought about drifting to the left...
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:03 PM
May 2015

He'd rather stay on the right...

And that is why the Democratic Party is in trouble, as long as the Third Way Democrats continue to carry the wrong message to the people.

Thank $DEITY_OF_CHOICE for Bernie Sanders, someone who will be able to steer his and the progressive's messages to the people.

Everyone is starting to learn about Bernie Sanders, and hot-diggity-dog, if Bernie is not a dead heat by the time the debates roll around, he certainly will be beyond that.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
46. Classic third way false choice presented
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:01 PM
May 2015

"They propose expanding Social Security rather than prioritizing serious efforts to preserve the program — even though it will be unable to provide full benefits as soon as 2032, the Congressional Budget Office has made clear," Delaney said. "The only way a large-scale expansion could work is by allocating new revenue away from needed investments in the next generation or by shifting the financial burden to workers or our children."

No mention of raising the cap on income that is subject to social security taxes. No, the "only" way is to take money away from needed investments or by taking it from our children. Sick stuff.

Bernie will eat these people for lunch if given a chance to make his positions known to the public.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
60. Ever notice how the neoliberals pushing the TPP corporate enrichment deal...
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:26 PM
May 2015

... wax poetic about "increasing USA exports" but never mention the much LARGER increase in imports that actually happen? Kind of like giving a baseball score like this:

Dodgers 4

Just precisely who do these freakin' clowns think they are fooling anyway?

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
62. That son of a bitch lied to my face when he was campaining
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:22 PM
May 2015


Told me flat out how he was a progressive. Time to find a fucking challenger, I seriously doubt he will support Bernie's agenda.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
65. There's that Third Way messaging problem again.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:29 PM
May 2015

He apparently didn't get the memo that the Third Way candidate is now pretending to be a populist right now, and that the open touting of right-wing, predatory, liberal-punching talking points is best left until AFTER the new corporate puppet has been installed.

This is the phase of the con game during which the Third Way is supposed to pretend to be as passionate about liberal issues as the rest of us, while lying to our faces that they just support a slower, more "pragmatic" route to the goal.


The implementation of a corporate authoritarian state is clearly a necessary incremental step in the long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long. long, long journey toward a liberal, compassionate future.

They can't tell us people with limited smartness why, though. It's a secret.



BKH70041

(961 posts)
66. Good for him.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:36 PM
May 2015

The "progressive populists" that have embedded themselves within the Democratic Party need to go form their own party instead. They don't deserve to have legislative representation at any level of government.

hay rick

(7,603 posts)
73. Or we can take back OUR party and let you folks figure out which side you're on.
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:37 PM
May 2015

I've been stuck with the lesser evil for a while. Won't break my heart if you have to choose between Sanders and Cruz.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
78. Jesus on a pogo stick!
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:29 AM
May 2015

Progressive populists ARE the fucking Democratic Party.

Third Way, neo-liberal, DLC's are the ones who need to just go the fuck a way.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
79. Or maybe the "centrists" like him can go back to the Republican party
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:31 AM
May 2015

where they used to be in the first place. Either way, we get more Republicans in office. Is that the point?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
67. Nobody's proposing to relitigate the financial crisis...
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:44 PM
May 2015

You can't relitigate something that was never actually litigated in the first place.

And the only Democratic versions of the Tea Party are the so-called "centrists" themselves, who, like the Teabaggers, cannot distinguish policies that provide checks and balances on economic power from a membership application to the Warsaw Pact.

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
69. These 3rd Way 'Democrats' hate their fellow Democrats
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:51 PM
May 2015

more than they hate the 'publicons.

I guess that is what Skinner was talking about in ATA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12597937#post1



 

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Boomerproud

(7,951 posts)
72. What message is he talking about?
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:19 PM
May 2015

What principles has the Democratic Party stood for and articulated and fought for in a generation?

Cha

(297,104 posts)
85. lol.. I actually thinks he makes a couple of good points..
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:06 AM
May 2015

"They propose expanding Social Security rather than prioritizing serious efforts to preserve the program — even though it will be unable to provide full benefits as soon as 2032, the Congressional Budget Office has made clear," Delaney said. "The only way a large-scale expansion could work is by allocating new revenue away from needed investments in the next generation or by shifting the financial burden to workers or our children."

"He said Democrats' "party microphone has been hijacked by people more interested in scoring points than in solving problems."

I've seen that against President Obama.. basically calling him a "liar" and "sexist".. to score points. Their bullshite isn't true.

Key legislation Delaney has sponsored:

Veterans' Advisory Committee on Education Improvement Act of 2013 (H.R. 2011; 113th Congress) - a bill that would extend through the end of 2015 the Veterans' Advisory Committee on Education and change its membership.

Partnership to Build America Act of 2013 (H.R. 2084; 113th Congress) - a bill that would establish the American Infrastructure Fund (AIF).

Medical Foods Equity Act of 2013 (H.R. 3665; 113th Congress) - a bill that would extend coverage of medical foods, vitamins, and amino acids to those with metabolic disorders. [19]

MOre.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Delaney_(Maryland_politician)

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
87. I see a problem stinking to high heaven that we need to solve right now,
Sat May 30, 2015, 08:50 AM
May 2015

and his name is John Delaney.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
88. John Delaney needs to go be the republican that he actually is. DINOs are way too
Sat May 30, 2015, 08:54 AM
May 2015

prevalent in DC.

They really need to GO.

Democrats ARE the LEFT. Idiot.

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