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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:06 PM May 2015

Bernie Sanders Has More Support Than Every 2016 Republican Candidate In New Poll

According to the latest polling, Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) presidential campaign has more support than the campaign of media favorites Scott Walker, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and every other Republican candidate.

The latest Quinnipiac Poll revealed that five Republicans are tied at the top of the Republican field. Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, and Mike Huckabee each were at 10%.

Do you know who is more popular than even the most popular 2016 Republicans? Sen. Bernie Sanders. In the same poll, Sanders was supported by 15% of Democrats for their party’s nomination. Sen. Sanders trailed Hillary Clinton 57%-15%, but his fifteen percent made him the second most popular presidential candidate in the country.

The media treats Republicans like Carly Fiorina (2%), Ted Cruz (6%), and Rand Paul (7%) like they are serious candidates, but Bernie Sanders has two to seven times more support than these three Republicans. Why does the media treat Sen. Sanders like he is token opposition to former Sec. of State Clinton instead of as the legitimately popular stand alone figure that he is?

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Bernie Sanders is legitimately popular. The prism that the media is trying to force this election into doesn’t fit. Sen. Sanders has a larger base of support than any Republican hopeful, which is why it is time for the media to stop pumping up GOP pretenders and face the reality that Bernie Sanders is legit.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/05/29/bernie-sanders-support-2016-republican-presidential-candidate-poll.html

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Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. I do not disagree that the media should cover Sanders more as a legitimate candidate...
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:16 PM
May 2015

however, the problem is the media is looking for clicks and views and readers and viewers and they do not care at all about the responsibilities of the past. In the past, the media felt a real obligation to report news, to cover issues, to investigate politicians (follow the money?...I'd laugh if I could ever stop crying about how commonplace that sentiment has become), but no more!

Today's media is a whorehouse of special interests and ratings driven madness all tuned to the lowest common denominator - namely the ability to fog a mirror and spend a dollar.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. The Corporate media is dying. Few get their news from the US media anymore. If they had any
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:22 PM
May 2015

influence with their 'looking for clicks' mentality, Sanders would be done. Instead, it seems the more they bash someone, the more popular that person becomes, because they are so not credible anymore.

Maybe if they want clicks and views, they should start telling the truth. That's what people are begging for. That' what they hear from Bernie Sanders, and that's why he's beating their 'media darlings' in polls.

 

NEVER SUMMER

(26 posts)
2. Old media is dying..
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:24 PM
May 2015

New Media is the king... and it's social media - the more Bernie spreads his word and capture the hearts of every American who can clearly see that being a progressive is better than being on the other side of the fence.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Funny you would dismiss this. I remember back in Jan when people were begging Bernie to run we were
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:30 PM
May 2015

constantly reminded that he 'wouldn't have a chance, was only at 3% in the polls, couldn't defeat a Repub etc etc.

I keep track of the arguments against Bernie now. They seem to change each time the previous ones are proven to be wrong.

I guess that's what I like most about Bernie, as do most people once they get to know him. He is CONSISTENT.

He doesn't adjust his message or his words because he is sincere.

When I see the ever changing 'reasons' why nothing that is positive about Bernie should be 'taken seriously', that is what I find myself doing, comparing his adherence to what is important, never having to alter his positions on the issues, and see the stark difference in his critics.

That FACT is that since Jan as more and more people get to know this candidate, across the political spectrum, the more enthusiasm grows for him.

He doesn't waste time addressing the smears or the critics, he keeps climbing the ladder, leaving the snapping turtles on the ground.

Six months from now, of course, these criticisms of him will be forgotten (not by me though lol) and the critics will have moved on to try something else.

Meantime he will just keep on climbing and talking ABOUT THE ISSUES and he will keep on gaining support and the smears will become more nasty.

It's sad how a good candidate is attacked, not on the issues, of course, ever.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
16. And we will keep spreading the word about him and the polls will
Fri May 29, 2015, 05:15 PM
May 2015

keep climbing! His authenticity, honesty, and message will ultimately prevail!

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
5. The comparison is in evaluating the level of support.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:38 PM
May 2015

Sen. Sanders is more popular than any of the republicans. That is not to say that he is anywhere close to approaching HIllary's huge lead or that he would win in a head to head match up with any particular republican. That was not the point.

The point is, he has more support than any of the dipshits on the right.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. Yeah.. I get that but it really means very little.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:43 PM
May 2015

If we had 10 Dem candidates and Bernie still polled at 15 then that would be significant.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. And I get that there is very little true statistical comparison to be made.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:48 PM
May 2015

But, two things, it is as much a comment on the lack of popularity of any of the republicans as it is on their number.

And second, 15% is a respectable start. The question is whether that is Sander's floor or ceiling. That is yet to be determined. As his starting point, it certainly shows that there is support for him due to who he is or that he is "not Clinton." As more Dems get in, we will learn the answer. Will O'Malley and Webb pull from Sanders? Will the Warren supporters accept she isn't running and increase Sanders' numbers (if they haven't already). And then, most importantly, whether Sanders can draw from Hillary's support to build his.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
10. And some of those who were voting for Hillary might defect now...
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:12 PM
May 2015

... if they feel that the person they really want (Bernie), won't have as much of a problem with any of the Republicans as was previously pushed forth. Therefore, now the "pragmatic choice" is less to 'we should vote for Hillary", but to vote for who we really want as president. The more the message gets out that Bernie can beat any of the Republicans, the more Hillary's larger vote percentage will get smaller and move to Bernie.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. This is still at best misleading
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:33 PM
May 2015

It's not shocking that support divided over 20 or so candidates is lower than support divided over many fewer.

It tells you absolutely nothing about relative popularity in a one on one comparison. Repeating this is really silly.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
14. I hadnt' seen the first post. This one is more accurate with its headline.
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:35 PM
May 2015

It has little to do with 20 repubs. It has to do with no repub being as popular at this moment as Sanders is.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
15. But that itself has *everything* to do with there being 20 Repub candidates
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:52 PM
May 2015

There is little space for a Rep to distinguish themselves because everybody not theocratic, jingoistic, anti-science and anti-government was discarded years ago. Their 100% is just divided up based on region, name recognition and minor trivia. There is no real front runner so the division is simple arithmetic. Nobody can get to 15 facing 18-20 nigh identical clone candidates. Asking a RWNJ which candidate they like best is like asking us which candidate of theirs we like the least - you'd get very similar flat results because it's hard to distinguish one horror show loon from the next.

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