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If we suppose that there's been a slight (most likely temporary, as people readjust) swing against Obama due to his recent endorsement of gay marriage, using Rasmussen's 2010 GOP bias % we have a lead of about 3% which will become a tie when people get over the marriage issue (as anyone with a hint of mental cogency did years ago).
Even with Scotty's partisan hackery nullified, however, it does show that there are lots of people beyond the 30% GOP base who find Romney's bully-boy persona endearing and representative of their preferred direction for America. Perhaps the newest revelations will strip some of the ludicrously coiffed one's sheen.
http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)"Currently, the baseline targets for the adult population are
35.8% Republicans
33.0% Democrats
31.2% unaffiliated.
Likely voter samples typically show a slightly larger advantage for the Republicans."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)I would, however, buy a small lead of around 3-4%, just as I would've done for Michael Dukakis in 1988, despite the much higher advantage he routinely posted prior to the late summer. There is a treasure trove of material which will be opened gleefully by the Obama camp as the year wears on.
I also happen to think that, in spite of this election's unique dynamics, '88 is the one it will come to resemble most closely when the dust settles, a weaker Mass. governor than Dukakis sent packing to his home state...wherever that will be come November!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)First of all Rasmussen is total asshattery, pumpkin.
Secondly, we don't hold a national election. duh.
Thirdly... sniff, sniff, sniff.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)To the GOP candidate for his polls. I think they're worth a glance because knowing how he cooks his numbers, you can get an idea of the bigger picture at this point in time.
I don't think they'll amount to much when Romney goes down by 8 or 9 in November but there are obviously a lot of people who aren't that familiar with his record of failure at this point.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)No, after bringing the Republicans to parity with the Democrats in their polls, they then goose it 4% more on top of that.
Turnout in a Presidential Election hasn't matched their likely model in decades, not by a longshot.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)What did they do this time, poll 60% repubs and 20 percent D's?
shagsak
(371 posts)Then it's biased and should be ignored. No offense.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)BklnDem75
(2,918 posts)They've never been legit.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)I explicitly noted their bias in the OP. I think Nate Silver had their 2010 bias at around 4%.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Smilo
(1,944 posts)and anti-Obama nutjobs who will vote for him regardless and nothing will change that.
All we can do is remember that and go out there and beat Romney's butt in November.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)but especially when you're quoting asshattery.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)They are just talking out of their ass now.They just lost any credabilty they had left.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)I follow the polls and think they are a good temperature check. When a poll is touted as an accurate predictor of results, within a margin of error, it's rarely mentioned what the specific results were. When the votes are counted I don't hear things like, "Joe Blow won. The polls predicted he would and here is the timeline of how the polls were right." (Unless it's an obvious blow out. Polls are moot at that point.)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)meeting Julius Caesar for lunch.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Not at all. Polls right now are not really indicative of anything much at all.
democrat_patriot
(2,774 posts)I call bullsh*t.
Fine, let them push this meme - Dems get motivated, Teabaggers sleep through the vote.
abolugi
(417 posts)Doesn't seem possible to be losing to every demographic except white men and still be ahead 7 points.
I, too, call bullshit!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Thank you for your concern.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The Values Voters are on the march, I tell ya!
newspeak
(4,847 posts)have short term memory; and forgot how little boots gutted the treasury and expanded the disparity between the have nots and have mores. And, they apparently forgot before the presidential election when little boots basically stated "my bad, you gotta help bail me out or the whole world is going down." Now that wasn't obama, that was little boots. All the while, decent jobs were slip sliding away. So, if the american public can't remember what went down, how we got in this mess and want to be screwed with ryan's randian, screw the poor, sick, children and unemployed bill; then I will have lost all faith in the american people.
However, since it's rasmussan, I'll hold off moving from the country.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If he goes ahead and ends the drug war/persecution of pot smoking cancer grannies, he'll be in even better shape. But I am very proud of him this week.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)Of those among Obama's support who oppose gay marriage will, I think, find that their bigotry melts away now that one with such gravitas has announced his backing.
There'll probably be a temporary, reflex reaction against his endorsement but it won't last.
I don't think that 'values voters' in general ever really existed in great numbers. They're just partisan Republicans who'd rather watch the country burn than hand over a dollar of extra tax. You'll never find someone who votes GOP because of their arse-backward social views yet still believes in socialised healthcare, reasonable tax rates and so on.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They can't WAIT until we are throwing women in the stocks for fornication and blasphemy, the way Jesus intended as he rode through Philadelphia on his dinosaur, to write the Constitution in 1776.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)These polls are totally useless. In 2004, Kerry was ahead in many of these polls.
Mitt is an unlikable dork that reminds people constantly (and unintentionally) why they should not vote for him whenever he shows his face in public. He has a very small chance of being elected.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)It's just a snapshot from a partisan pollster, I get that, I addressed that in my OP.
I noted in this thread that this election reminds me of none so much as 1988. Despite the fact that Bush wasn't president he was still ostensibly 'the incumbent' and he faced an awkward, uncharismatic man who was posting big leads until the late summer.
The big difference is that there's far more factual material to skewer Romney with than there ever was Dukakis. Were it not for the fact that Obama provokes a frightening, irrational hatred in the minds of too many idiots, I'd suggest that this could end up being an electoral college win on par with that.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Be prepared for some questioning of your intentions when posting polls like this.
ps. Welcome to DU.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)second: We can't become complacent. Everyone still needs to get out and vote democratic no matter how idiotic Rmoney may appear, or how obvious it may seem that Obama should win. Don't forget 2010....we need congress to be overwhelmingly blue in order to get anything done.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)"bullshit", "biased", etc., and every favorable poll greeted with high-fives all around.
Polls mean very little at this stage anyway. I'm old enough to remember Dukakis having a commanding lead over HW in the polls. And more recently, Rasmussen's final MA senate poll had Scott Brown losing by 2 points (he ended up winning by 5).
I prefer to look at the Intrade odds. Currently this gives Obama a 60% chance of re-election.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)Romney at round 35%
Rasmussen is talking garbage
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Discount (R)ass polls.