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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:17 PM May 2012

No ‘Counterculture’ Hair Allowed At Liberty University

When Mitt Romney stands up at Liberty University Saturday to deliver the school’s commencement address, he’s unlikely to be faced with the kind of long, floppy hair that reportedly so angered him in high school.

Liberty, founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, is known in politics as the place Republican candidates concerned about their connection to evangelicals go to make amends. John McCain famously shunned the school during his 2000 campaign, only to cozy up to it when he ran for president the second time. Romney, despite having all but locked up the nomination, still has to prove his bona fides to some on the evangelical right, who remain wary of his past rhetoric on gay rights and abortion.

Outside of politics, Liberty is known for Christian extremism. Fallwell once said “pagans, and the abortionists, tofurkey, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians” were partly responsible for Sept. 11 (he later apologized). The school he founded has strict rules governing the interaction of the sexes (students are fined for entering the bedroom of a member of the opposite sex either on or off campus), media consumption (watching an R-rated movie results in disciplinary action) and attire — including hair style.

According to a copy of the school handbook, “The Liberty Way”, shared with TPM by People for the American Way, the rules governing hair on Liberty’s campus are very strict. From the rules for men:

Hair and clothing styles related to a counterculture (as determined by the Student Affairs Deans’ Review Committee) are not acceptable. Hair should be cut in such a way that it will not come over the ears, collar or eyebrows at any time. Ponytails for men are unacceptable. Nose hair should not protrude more than 1 inch from nostrils. Eyebrows should be brushed back and never raised. Leg hair for women is unacceptable.


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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/romney-style-hair-preferred-at-liberty-univ.php?ref=fpb

Quadrennial "look at how weird and creepy Liberty is" piece.

Romney fits right in.
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No ‘Counterculture’ Hair Allowed At Liberty University (Original Post) Capt. Obvious May 2012 OP
"nose hair should not protrude more than 1 inch from nostrils".. LeftinOH May 2012 #1
I'd have to put my nose hair up in a bun if I went there aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #13
*spitting tea on my laptop* shanti May 2012 #21
This is so darn strange. surrealAmerican May 2012 #34
ironic name for that place considering the long list of shit you can't do there. KG May 2012 #2
Ouch! Good point. I read that book written by the Solomon May 2012 #33
I suspect Mitt's nosehair exceeds 1" C_U_L8R May 2012 #3
I'm stricter than they are. Three-quarter inch nose hair is my limit. immoderate May 2012 #4
see, that's why they embraced the roman cut newspeak May 2012 #5
I am guessing they wouldn't like a Sinead O'Connor HockeyMom May 2012 #6
Nose hair? hifiguy May 2012 #7
I got that far, and that was all she wrote!! Oh boy! nt daaron May 2012 #24
Women's leg hair get the red out May 2012 #8
Grooming them for the transparent Faux News desk! maxrandb May 2012 #37
Thanks for posting, Captain... Permanut May 2012 #9
All the women must wear big hair from the early 60's longship May 2012 #10
I don't know how to post a pic from an iProduct, either kentauros May 2012 #28
Can't help you with your iPhone, but here's a pic of Janice Crouch. PA Democrat May 2012 #31
That is it longship May 2012 #38
So, Jesus wouldn't be allowed? nt SwissTony May 2012 #11
Nope! And he would be demeanded for hanging around 12 men all the time half naked. nanabugg May 2012 #35
Is there a Student Affairs Deans’ Nosehair Review Subcommittee to monitor this? Buns_of_Fire May 2012 #12
Fashion Police Strike Again. Quantess May 2012 #14
I'm curious, kentauros May 2012 #29
tofurkey..............partly responsible for Sept. 11 Amaril May 2012 #15
I just read the entire LU handbook. Ask me anything. cali May 2012 #16
God, why? (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #26
Did they mention female mustaches? Unibrows? riderinthestorm May 2012 #32
Falwell didn't allow "Socialists" on the faculty Wise Child May 2012 #17
Right now being a fundamentalist Christian is countercultural XemaSab May 2012 #18
So I guess Jesus wouldn't be allowed there cherish44 May 2012 #19
Only the masculine republican Jesus would be allowed there pstokely May 2012 #40
Students can still shave their privates snooper2 May 2012 #20
I thought it was the crucifix shape Capt. Obvious May 2012 #22
I love that the banner ad on this thread is for Liberty University Capt. Obvious May 2012 #23
Commencement address or job interview? gratuitous May 2012 #25
Sorry, Brah. I cut my Nose Dreads for No Man. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #27
"counterculture"??? Raine May 2012 #30
What a freak show. tabasco May 2012 #36
"What about me, son?" HughBeaumont May 2012 #39

LeftinOH

(5,353 posts)
1. "nose hair should not protrude more than 1 inch from nostrils"..
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:25 PM
May 2012

Well, somebody with 7/8" nose hair needs to challenge that.

surrealAmerican

(11,358 posts)
34. This is so darn strange.
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:34 PM
May 2012

Why would a university NEED nose hair standards? Are their students even capable of growing lengthy nose hair? How on earth is this "counter cultural"? - What is this nose hair growing counter culture, anyway?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
33. Ouch! Good point. I read that book written by the
Reply to KG (Reply #2)
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:56 PM
May 2012

Brown univ student who spent a semester there. It's a cult.

C_U_L8R

(44,990 posts)
3. I suspect Mitt's nosehair exceeds 1"
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:29 PM
May 2012

but it's been so expertly tended to by his personal nose hair manicurist

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
4. I'm stricter than they are. Three-quarter inch nose hair is my limit.
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:30 PM
May 2012

I always love the how-to-wipe-your-ass details of manuals from autocratic institutions. They always think of shit that wouldn't cross my mind.

--imm

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
5. see, that's why they embraced the roman cut
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:34 PM
May 2012

jesus was counter culture. Can't have that long hair like samson or jesus. So, liberty must endorse the roman culture-didn't they kill jesus?

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
6. I am guessing they wouldn't like a Sinead O'Connor
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:35 PM
May 2012

on a woman either. There was a time, when I was first married, where I had almost a crew cut and my husband's hair was almost down to his shoulders. He worked as a programmer at NYU, and the techie people back then, were very much out of the mainstream. They would not have been caught dead in a suit and tie! Look at what Bill Gates, et al., look like from those days.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
8. Women's leg hair
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:43 PM
May 2012

If someone got close enough to see if a woman had leg hair, wouldn't that get them expelled?

Permanut

(5,566 posts)
9. Thanks for posting, Captain...
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:05 PM
May 2012

This bizarre stuff needs to be kept in the spotlight, not because of its National Enquirer nature, but because these wackjobs want to run the country.

Edit to include K & R

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. All the women must wear big hair from the early 60's
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:05 PM
May 2012

Like Janice Crouch of Trinity Broadcast Network (TBN).

Sorry, don't know how to post a pic on an iPhone.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
28. I don't know how to post a pic from an iProduct, either
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:47 PM
May 2012


However, on my desktop, I can post your typical beehive bouffant image:



The bigger the better!

longship

(40,416 posts)
38. That is it
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:22 PM
May 2012

Rmoney, looking at an audience half full of women, all looking like that, might not be tempted to give them haircuts.

Otherwise, Willard Scissorhands comes out!

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
35. Nope! And he would be demeanded for hanging around 12 men all the time half naked.
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:41 PM
May 2012

Again...they would only pay attention Jesus' words if they were designed to hurt someone. The RW evanelicals really only believe in the Old Testament God of wrath. For the most part, they should not even be called Christians because their lives reject the teachings of Jesus. Most of them should be called Paulitans.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
14. Fashion Police Strike Again.
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:27 PM
May 2012

Fashion police are by definition superficial. Fashion police belong in fashion shows and our fashion magazines. They have no business intruding into our everyday lives.

Judging people by their personal style is about the laziest prejudice I can think of, right up there with judging who you are by your weight.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
15. tofurkey..............partly responsible for Sept. 11
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:29 PM
May 2012

Really? I heard it was Paula Dean's Turducken that made the terrorists want to destroy America RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!.

It never ceases to make me sad that these asshats have managed to gain such a loud -- and shrill -- voice in our national discourse.

Wise Child

(180 posts)
17. Falwell didn't allow "Socialists" on the faculty
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:42 PM
May 2012

Which I assume would be "Marxist Critics", something common and generally non-threatening in a state university. He would state this in the same orientation session as he would proclaim that he would shoot any boy found in a girl's dorm building. That would be his idea of a joke. He was serious about applying discipline in a serious matter, however.

I wonder if he was one of those conservatives who was secretly envious of the Soviet Union only for it's police state?

On topic: Some schools like Liberty U. Forbid their students to put cuffs in their blue jeans, I guess it looks too beatnik-ish. It's the only way to wear a pair of 501s. (not the only way that would be authoritarian like Liberty U.)

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
18. Right now being a fundamentalist Christian is countercultural
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:52 PM
May 2012



I worked with this big blonde Mormon kid who had gone to BYU for a semester. He left in large part because on school ID picture day, he and his friend got up, shaved, and went to class. At around 2 in the afternoon they went down to where the pictures were to be taken, and the people behind the desk insisted that he and his friend go shave again. Apparently in 6 hours their beards had grown unacceptably long! The people at the desk gave each of them a cheapie disposable razor, a can of shaving cream, and a little towel, and told them to go shave in the bathroom across the hall. Of course they came back for their pictures nicked and bloody, but apparently being nicked and bloody in your student ID is better than having a blonde two-o-clock shadow.

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
19. So I guess Jesus wouldn't be allowed there
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:58 PM
May 2012

He had long hair like a dang hippie you know. Love the nose hair rule. I took a ruler to measure and an inch of dangling nose hair allows for some pretty generous grossness. As far as the leg hair on women, does that apply to underarm and bikini area too? Do they do inspections? Perverts.

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