Sun May 31, 2015, 02:31 PM
Liberal_in_LA (44,397 posts)
Hillary Clinton’s Strong Start![]() That was partly spin, of course. There is no end in sight to the stories about the finances of the Clinton Foundation, the Clinton e-mails, or the activities of some of the Clintons’ associates. But as spring rolls into summer, Team Brooklyn has successfully accomplished its two initial goals: heading off the possibility of a serious challenge for the Democratic nomination and surviving a barrage of negative publicity that was inevitable at some stage, and which was, therefore, best confronted early on. The entry into the Democratic contest by Bernie Sanders was welcome from a Clintonite perspective, because it filled a potentially dangerous vacuum. With his long record of service to progressive causes, Sanders is popular enough to garner a decent-sized following among liberal Democrats, but he’s almost certainly too far to the left to represent a serious threat to Hillary. So far, at least, his presence has been more of a problem for Martin O’Malley, the former governor of Maryland, who is set to officially announce his candidacy on Saturday. As I noted back in March, O’Malley is a serious figure who demands some respect. As governor, he eliminated the death penalty, legalized gay marriage, and championed various good-government initiatives. But with Sanders already out there on the stump, O’Malley has struggled to gain traction. A new poll of likely Democratic voters conducted by Quinnipiac University illustrates the scale of the task that is facing Clinton’s challengers. The survey, which was carried out from May 19th to May 26th, showed her getting fifty-seven per cent of the vote. Sanders was in second place, with fifteen per cent. O’Malley got just one per cent, and so did two other possible candidates, Jim Webb, a former U.S. senator from Virginia, and Lincoln Chafee, a former governor and U.S. senator from Rhode Island. Of course, it is early in the process, and anything could happen between now and the end of the primaries. At this stage, though, Clinton is sitting pretty. http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/at-this-early-stage-hillary-clinton-looks-strong
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Liberal_in_LA | May 2015 | OP |
NYC_SKP | May 2015 | #1 | |
cherokeeprogressive | May 2015 | #3 | |
NYC_SKP | May 2015 | #4 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | May 2015 | #2 | |
elleng | May 2015 | #5 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | May 2015 | #8 | |
Adrahil | May 2015 | #10 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | May 2015 | #12 | |
olddots | May 2015 | #6 | |
hill2016 | May 2015 | #7 | |
azmom | May 2015 | #9 | |
Adrahil | May 2015 | #11 |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:35 PM
NYC_SKP (68,644 posts)
1. "heading off the possibility of a serious challenge for the Democratic nomination"?
But as spring rolls into summer, Team Brooklyn has successfully accomplished its two initial goals: heading off the possibility of a serious challenge for the Democratic nomination and surviving a barrage of negative publicity that was inevitable at some stage, and which was, therefore, best confronted early on.
That's a pretty bold conclusion, that's it's already been settled when, in fact, it has only barely begun. What does "Team Brooklyn" know that the rest of the world doesn't? ![]() PS, If true, that they planned to head off any challenges means that they don't really care about giving Americans a voice, they just want to win. Not surprising, but very disturbing. All of that. |
Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:41 PM
cherokeeprogressive (24,853 posts)
3. LOL. I'm still trying to figure out what the "start" refers to.
Did someone give her the keys to "Scooby" so she could warm it up one cold morning?
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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #3)
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:02 PM
NYC_SKP (68,644 posts)
4. Hell, she's already on her second avatar and has clearly out-tweeted the competitors...
I think anyone working for this many years with this much money would also have a "start".
....a very strong start. It means very little when a woman, who was a first lady and then moved strategically to the state of the big banks to become their senator and then loses a primary has a good start the second time around. She worked the deal to become SOS and worked that deal to her advantage in this run, so, again, with all that money and influence, I would expect a strong start. Hell, she's already on her second avatar and has clearly out-tweeted the competitors... So she has a strong start, having been running now for like 10 years, and without any opponents for this cycle until only recently. Color me meh. Now the work has to be done. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:38 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
2. If I voted based on "winnability", I'd have voted for Nixon and Reagan and Bush.
I didn't. And, I won't vote for Hillary based on polls.
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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #2)
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:13 PM
elleng (121,938 posts)
5. Right, and thanks for saying it, Tierra.
Elections are NOT ball games, we should study the candidates and base our opinions about them and our decisions about who to support on their PROGRAMS and the contents of their characters (to the extent we can discern that,) NOT on whether we think they'll win the game!
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Response to elleng (Reply #5)
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:27 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
8. I agree.
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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #2)
Sun May 31, 2015, 04:58 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
10. Nothing wrong with that, so long as .....
... you vote for her once she wins the nomination.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:18 PM
olddots (10,237 posts)
6. the most advertised product post I made sunk quickly
we have lived in the advertising age for a long time and will continue to be duped by popularity over prinipals and quality of returns .
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:22 PM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
7. and I predict
that it will only get stronger. People like to support the winning horse. No one likes to back the losing team.
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Response to hill2016 (Reply #7)
Sun May 31, 2015, 04:22 PM
azmom (5,208 posts)
9. People love an under dog though.
Response to azmom (Reply #9)
Sun May 31, 2015, 04:59 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
11. Tell it to Dennis Kucinich!
For what it's worth, Dennis was my candidate, but i had no illusions he was gonna win.
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