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CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:17 PM May 2012

DU darlings, welcome back to the Friday Afternoon Challenge: The Muse!

Identify the artists whose muses they have portrayed here. Extra credit if you know the muse's name!

And please, observe the “no cheating” rule...

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DU darlings, welcome back to the Friday Afternoon Challenge: The Muse! (Original Post) CTyankee May 2012 OP
#2 gateley May 2012 #1
What a great guess. It is not, but I can see how you could interpret that photo. CTyankee May 2012 #2
Haha! Yes! gateley May 2012 #3
Yeah, didn't it for all of us. Now it just looks a bit weird... CTyankee May 2012 #8
#3 certainly looks like Tansy_Gold May 2012 #4
No, not Rossetti's muse...and not pre-Raphaelite... CTyankee May 2012 #6
Then I'm lost, 'cause all I know is the PRB! Tansy_Gold May 2012 #9
I love the PRB! I think it is beautiful. I also love Les Nabis and art nouveau... CTyankee May 2012 #10
Since I'm the only one here at this point... gateley May 2012 #5
That is a Madonna, yes. #6 is not Lautrec... CTyankee May 2012 #7
number 1 IcyPeas May 2012 #11
Right! However did you get this? I don't think it looks like a Lautrec... CTyankee May 2012 #13
gossamer fabric IcyPeas May 2012 #16
I must say I don't think of the gossamer fabric with Lautrec. Must go back and research more! CTyankee May 2012 #33
maybe gossamer not the correct word IcyPeas May 2012 #39
Here is a major hint: #s 1 and 3 were muses to more than one artist! CTyankee May 2012 #12
Misia Natanson: (re: number 1) IcyPeas May 2012 #14
Don't you just love her? I think she's great! CTyankee May 2012 #15
she certainly was.... popular IcyPeas May 2012 #17
number 6 IcyPeas May 2012 #18
Yes, I thought it was pretty obvious but it is Wally!. CTyankee May 2012 #22
#5 skippysmom May 2012 #19
Ah, Victorine! Yes. CTyankee May 2012 #23
A story about #6 cthulu2016 May 2012 #20
No, not O'Keeffe or Steichen... CTyankee May 2012 #24
Wally was not his wife. I think you are confusing the two. Wally had left after his wife to be CTyankee May 2012 #26
My bad. I just assumed. cthulu2016 May 2012 #28
Understandable. I had to go back and check as I was unsure... CTyankee May 2012 #31
#5 lapislzi May 2012 #21
That is so interesting! What is your play's central thesis? I would be interested in knowing CTyankee May 2012 #25
It was a job. lapislzi May 2012 #49
So, 1, 5 and 6 have been identified! Great. Now we have 2, 3 and 4 to go. CTyankee May 2012 #27
Okay... spoiler alert cthulu2016 May 2012 #30
No, the artist is not initialed T.F. Who were you thinking of? CTyankee May 2012 #32
One of cthulu2016 May 2012 #34
She DOES look like Hedy Lamarr! She also looks a bit like Ingrid Bergman. CTyankee May 2012 #35
Hmmmmm... cthulu2016 May 2012 #36
You are on the right track...not Hepburn, tho... CTyankee May 2012 #38
Beaton cthulu2016 May 2012 #42
you veered off the right track...not Beaton... CTyankee May 2012 #43
Well, I didn't know any of the answers panader0 May 2012 #29
Hey, glad you're here! I try to get folks here involved in discussions about art through these CTyankee May 2012 #37
whoever number 2 is... IcyPeas May 2012 #40
K&R burrowowl May 2012 #41
I'm going out of town but will post the answers when I reach my destination... CTyankee May 2012 #44
#4 horseshoecrab May 2012 #45
#2 horseshoecrab May 2012 #46
I love this photograph. She is so beautiful and the setting is so dramatic, along with the lighting CTyankee May 2012 #47
Dior fur lined coat... horseshoecrab May 2012 #48

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
2. What a great guess. It is not, but I can see how you could interpret that photo.
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:34 PM
May 2012

Doncha just love the fur!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
3. Haha! Yes!
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:47 PM
May 2012

The collar, the hat, the cuffs AND the muff!

I think she looks so glam, and I loved that look until my views on fur changed.

Tansy_Gold

(17,847 posts)
4. #3 certainly looks like
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:50 PM
May 2012

Fanny Cornforth, who was Dante Gabriel Rossetti's muse (until he fell in love with Jane Morris) but I can't find that picture anywhere so I must be wrong.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
10. I love the PRB! I think it is beautiful. I also love Les Nabis and art nouveau...
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:02 PM
May 2012

I get a lot of pleasure from these art movements...

gateley

(62,683 posts)
5. Since I'm the only one here at this point...
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:52 PM
May 2012

#4 has to be the Madonna, right? ("Has to" :eyes

#6 by Toulouse Laurtrec?




IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
16. gossamer fabric
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:54 PM
May 2012

on some of his ballet dancers he uses that white gossamer looking fabric which also is like degas pastels

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
33. I must say I don't think of the gossamer fabric with Lautrec. Must go back and research more!
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:55 PM
May 2012

thanks...

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
12. Here is a major hint: #s 1 and 3 were muses to more than one artist!
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:31 PM
May 2012

These women are famed...and historically painted...

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
14. Misia Natanson: (re: number 1)
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:42 PM
May 2012

(from wikipedia (Misia Nathanson)

Misia Sert (born Maria Zofia Olga Zenajda Godebska; St. Petersburg, 30 March 1872 – Paris, 15 October 1950) was a pianist of Polish descent who hosted an artistic salon in Paris. She was a patron and friend of numerous artists, for whom she regularly posed.

When Natanson was on the brink of bankruptcy, the newspaper magnate Alfred Edwards saved him, on condition that he surrender his wife to him. Misia began living with Alfred Edwards in 1903. Around that time she started hosting a literary-artistic salon in Paris. She acquired considerable influence in Parisian musical and artistic circles. Stéphane Mallarmé, Maurice Ravel, Claude Debussy, as well as painters such as Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Édouard Vuillard, Félix Vallotton, and Pierre Bonnard were among her guests. She was a confidante of Pablo Picasso and Jean Cocteau, an early patron of Sergei Diaghilev's Ballets Russes and a close friend of the designer Coco Chanel.

Misia's third marriage was to the Spanish painter Jose Maria Sert (1876–1945). She loved Sert, and gave him up when he fell in love with another woman, Isabelle Roussadana Mdivani.

Misia was a noted beauty who was painted many times. She was one of the models for Toulouse-Lautrec's poster for La Revue blanche in 1895, in which she is shown as a skater. A portrait of Misia by Renoir is now in the Tate Gallery.[1]

Ravel dedicated Le Cygne (The Swan) in 'Histoires naturelles and La Valse (The Waltz) to her. In June 1905 Misia and her husband invited Ravel to join them, and the painters Bonnard and Laprade as well as their parents, on their cruise-ship "Aimée" for a six week holiday trip on the rivers and canals of northern France, Begium, Holland and Germany.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
15. Don't you just love her? I think she's great!
Fri May 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
May 2012

It seems like she was everybody's muse at a certain time. All of their paintings of her could be a Challenge all its own!

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
18. number 6
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:08 PM
May 2012

Egon Schiele

it's funny how you can pull things up from the depths of your memory. I used to live in NY and went to museums all the time I don't know why I remember his style. also isn't it sideways?

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
22. Yes, I thought it was pretty obvious but it is Wally!.
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:21 PM
May 2012

Not sure about the positioning of the image, tho. I was running thru lots of them to avoid the "bent knee" one which is so famous...

skippysmom

(1,303 posts)
19. #5
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:11 PM
May 2012

is Victorine Meurand, model for Edouard Manet. Model for Olympia and Dejeuner de l'herbe.

Is #3 Whistler?

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
20. A story about #6
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:15 PM
May 2012

She and Egon both died in the influenza pandemic of 1918. She was newly pregnant at the time.

After she died Egon continued to draw her corpse for a day or so until he succumbed to the illness.

A very touching (if somewhat creepy) story about the persistence of art.



(I assume #2 is O'Keeffe by Steichen?)

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
26. Wally was not his wife. I think you are confusing the two. Wally had left after his wife to be
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:31 PM
May 2012

said she wouldn't marry him if he continued to paint her (Wally). So Wally had to go. I think the story was that she died a year before he did, he didn't know and then both he and his wife died of pneumonia which was a complication of the 1918 flu pandemic.

Scheile was a kinda creepy artist, but he wasn't the only one in Vienna of his day...

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
21. #5
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:18 PM
May 2012

Victorine Meurant, also Manet's Olympia and model in countless other images.

A very interesting character. I have studied her in great depth, and even written a short one-woman play about her.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
25. That is so interesting! What is your play's central thesis? I would be interested in knowing
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

how you think she felt being immortalized by Manet in those paintings, esp. Olympia...

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
49. It was a job.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:59 AM
May 2012

She was a pragmatic woman, working class, and a lesbian. She had a series of female lovers, and took care of her mother. All of that is true.

As I wrote her, she was defiant, refusing to collaborate with the prevailing academic aesthetic of the day that presented the female form as an object for the delectation of the upper-class male. She and Manet were complicit in shattering that shibboleth. Olympia says "NO" in no uncertain terms. She covers her sex with her hand and frankly challenges the viewer with her eyes.

It is no wonder that when the painting was exhibited at the Salon de Refusees, people whacked it with their umbrellas (also true).

I see her as a woman completely in charge of her own sexuality.

After Manet's death and a quarrel with his widow, Victorine retired to the suburbs of Paris and lived on in obscurity until early in the 20th century. Her name was remembered in the Parisian demimonde, however, for quite a long time, until the fin de siecle turnover was complete and the art world was taken over by the Picassos and other foreigners.

Thanks for asking!

If you want the complete piece, PM me.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
30. Okay... spoiler alert
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:39 PM
May 2012

I hadn't really looked at #2 in guessing Steichen

Is the artist here initialed T. F.?

(If I know the model I still had to look up the artist, hence the dearth of info so as not to spoil it for others.)

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
35. She DOES look like Hedy Lamarr! She also looks a bit like Ingrid Bergman.
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:03 PM
May 2012

Quite a beauty. This photo was iconic for the photographer.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
36. Hmmmmm...
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:07 PM
May 2012

Hepburn by Avedon? It's too pretty to be Hepburn... but that's what being a great artist is about, right?

(Avedon's an honest guess but getting Hepburn would be a cheat, if correct. If incorrect it's hard to call it cheating. The photo looks 1930s but I guess it could be more recent... beats me. I used to be able to real off some of the top mid-century glamour photographers but all forgotten today.)

panader0

(25,816 posts)
29. Well, I didn't know any of the answers
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:37 PM
May 2012

but I think this is a very cool challenge and will pay close attention next time. Congrats to the DUers who are smart enough to to know the answers.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
37. Hey, glad you're here! I try to get folks here involved in discussions about art through these
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:08 PM
May 2012

Challenges, so my real reason is not to stump anybody. Not that I could, anyway, because DUers are impossible to stump! They are just too good at art!

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
44. I'm going out of town but will post the answers when I reach my destination...
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:58 AM
May 2012

Hint for #2: she died at the end of 2011

Hint for #3: she was a "beautiful Irish woman," M'sieu!

Hint for #4: this painting was rescued from Dresden during WWII, hidden in a tunnel, and discovered there by the Red Army.

Hoping someone will get them all while I am enroute...

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
45. #4
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

This is Raphael's Sistine Madonna.

The muse and model for the Sistine Madonna was probably Margherita Luti, daughter of a baker, who was Raphael's lover in Rome. She was also seemingly the subject of the paintings La Fornarina, (The Little Baker Girl) and La Velata, (The veilied woman), and probably others.

A recent cleaning of La Fornarina has revealed a ring on her left hand and it is speculated that she and Raphael were married. Luti entered a convent following Raphael's death.


horseshoecrab

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
46. #2
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:07 AM
May 2012


#2 -- Richard Avedon's photo of his first muse -- model and actress Doe Avedon (born Dorcas Marie Nowell) who was Avedon's wife.

The photo was taken at Gare du Nord, Paris, August 1947.

Thanks for the clue!


horseshoecrab

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
47. I love this photograph. She is so beautiful and the setting is so dramatic, along with the lighting
Sat May 12, 2012, 12:06 PM
May 2012

and the effects of black and white film. Gorgeous. Even the fur is impressive!

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
48. Dior fur lined coat...
Sat May 12, 2012, 12:31 PM
May 2012

Wish it was faux fur! Back in the forties though, fur was considered the height of luxury. Now we understand that fur looks truly beautiful on the animal it belongs to!

I love the dark and the light, the contrast and structure revealed by b&w photography, and Avedon is simply masterful.

Interestingly, Richard and Doe Avedon were the inspiration for the storyline of the movie Funny Face. Avedon did the stills for the movie starring Fred Astaire and Audrey Hepburn. Hepburn became Avedon's muse from then on.

That man produced some beautiful work in black and white! Timeless images of Hepburn especially.



horseshoecrab

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