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TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:24 PM May 2012

3 year old child killed by 7 year old brother operating farm equipment

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/article/20120512/SPJ0101/205120504/3-year-old-boy-dies-farm-incident

BERN -- A 3-year-old boy was killed Friday near Athens after he was run over by a skid steer loader driven by his 7-year-old brother, police say.

The younger brother was riding in the bucket of the skid steer with two other siblings, ages 4 and 5, said Lt. Fred Goch of the Marathon County Sheriff's Department. The 3-year-old fell out of the bucket, and the skid steer ran over him before the child's older brother could stop the vehicle. The children's father was working in a field 50 to 80 yards away, Goch said.

The children were playing with the machine, which was regularly used by the 7-year-old around the family's farm to do chores, Goch said.


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A skid steer is a versatile and maneuverable small-framed vehicle steered by controlling the speed and direction of two sets of side wheels. Skid steers can be used with different pieces of equipment at the end of two arms, such as a bucket.

Seriously, what the fuck. How many flavors of stupid were these parents for even letting a three year old out there on the work site?
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3 year old child killed by 7 year old brother operating farm equipment (Original Post) TheMightyFavog May 2012 OP
"My big fat gypsy wedding" shows very young people driving construction equipment, trucks, etc. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #1
I was allowed to drive in the pasture when I was 8. yellerpup May 2012 #2
Thanks for telling me about your experience. Where I grew up, the gov was trying to educate Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #3
In Oklahoma it is legal for farm kids to drive equipment. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #4
LOL! yellerpup May 2012 #9
In cultures where kids are given responsibility yellerpup May 2012 #10
And let a 7 year old behind the wheel of a tractor...beyond stupid... cynatnite May 2012 #5
It wasn't a work site, it was the family farm... Ghost in the Machine May 2012 #6
I know some adults who grew up in rural Wisconsin and lost a sibling undeterred May 2012 #7
They should make their kids live somewhere else! dems_rightnow May 2012 #8
So you think laundry_queen May 2012 #11
 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
1. "My big fat gypsy wedding" shows very young people driving construction equipment, trucks, etc.
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:30 PM
May 2012

Kids younger than 10 operating heavy equipment in 2012! england. Yep, it's still done. The fathers have the sons (and daughters) do the work of grown men

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
2. I was allowed to drive in the pasture when I was 8.
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
May 2012

And I started driving on the gravel streets of my grandparent's small town when I was 10 (under supervision, but not necessarily with anyone in the vehicle with me. I had the hardest time with his Volkswagen bus because the steering wheel was right over the wheels and I had a harder time grasping turning. Country kids who work on a farm almost always learn to drive early because driving doesn't take a lot of muscle. No seven-year-old kid has any business being responsible (!) for three younger siblings. What horror for the whole family.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
3. Thanks for telling me about your experience. Where I grew up, the gov was trying to educate
Sat May 12, 2012, 03:34 PM
May 2012

immigrants from some pacific Islands that their kids should not drive before 16 and license. It was done back home and many would continue the practice in the US.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
10. In cultures where kids are given responsibility
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:32 PM
May 2012

at a young age, privileges such as driving are earned earlier because it takes a load off the parents. I bet freeways are a challenge, though. Hard to get experience with that on the back 40 in any country. When I think of Pacific Islands, though, somehow I never picture driving. Very interesting.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
5. And let a 7 year old behind the wheel of a tractor...beyond stupid...
Sat May 12, 2012, 03:43 PM
May 2012

I grew up working on a farm and was raised around farmers. None of the ones I knew would let a child this age drive a tractor. My sister and her husband have specific rules for their farm for the kids. At age 13 they are allowed to drive the farm equipment on the land. At age 15 they can go down the dirt road, but not in town. In town, they will have a legal license.

If you won't let a 7 year old drive a sedan, why would anyone allow that child to drive a tractor? There should be limitations for children this age.

I feel for the family here, but this was very careless and thoughtless.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
6. It wasn't a work site, it was the family farm...
Sat May 12, 2012, 04:05 PM
May 2012

I had my own riding mower when I was 9, and was operating tractors with bush hogs, hay mowers/rakes and balers at 13/14 years old.

My son and daughter have both been driving since they were 9 years old, and both of them could ride a Yamaha PW50 dirt bike before they could pedal a bicycle. Oh, the horrors! My son learned how to drive a stick shift when he was 10... my daughter still hasn't quite mastered it yet, and they are 18 & 19 now...

This is a tragic accident, but it's not abnormal for kids growing up on farms, or way out in the country, to drive or operate farm equipment at a young age.

Peace,
Ghost

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
11. So you think
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:45 PM
May 2012

a 3 and 7 year old running around dangerous equipment is okay? That it's okay for a 7 year old to DRIVE?

Farmers, if they have to go work around equipment, should have to find a babysitter like everyone else. I can't imagine that I would be allowed, if I worked around machinery, to bring my 3 and 7 year old to work.

My mom grew up on a farm. My grandfather, who was 45 when my mother was born and still remembered farming with a horse-drawn plow, was extremely strict about children around the equipment. They weren't allowed to try the tractor until they were in their teens and there were very specific rules. If my grandfather was using the tractor, the kids were not allowed in the same field, lest my grandfather backed up without knowing they were there or something. They also had a small sawmill and again, the kids were not allowed anywhere near it until they were in their mid-teens. There were 8 kids and none were hurt in farming accidents. However, they had cousins that weren't so lucky. A few died from equipment accidents (getting run over, hurt by harvesting equipment, etc). My grandfather had nothing but contempt for other farmers that allowed their children around equipment. My mom and her siblings did things like pick blueberries or weed the garden or gather eggs when they were little, and when they got older they were allowed to milk the cows and shovel shit (yay, lol).

I think too many parents WAY overestimate the capabilities of a 7 year old. Our neighbours had a 7 year old that had his own snowmobile. One day, he was out riding it and I was unaware that he had come into our yard with it. I heard it, and went out to tell MY children to come inside as I didn't trust that a 7 year old was in control of such a machine (it certainly didn't look like it to me!). JUST as I went out to do that, I heard my daughter scream and I looked just in time to see her get RUN OVER by the 7 year old. Luckily she was totally unhurt (it was very cold and she was totally bundled and the snow was soft). Her snowsuit was torn though. I was very upset. The dad came over to make his kid apologize. I was like WTF? YOU are the idiot that lets your 7 year old drive a skidoo! He continued to berate his son in front of me about how careless his son had been and that he would be punished for not being safe. omg.

7 Year olds are simply NOT capable of safely operating machinery. Ever.

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