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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDer Spiegel: How Right-Wing Extremists and Islamists Are the Same
The two groups appear to be diametrically opposed, but a deeper look reveals they have a great deal in common. The totalitarian worldview has many manifestations.
Their extremism and the absolutist nature of their ideas are comparable. Miliopoulos says that such groups seek to capitalize on people's fears. For Pro-NRW, that effort manifests itself in the way the party equates Islam with Islamism -- religion with ideology.
Their own ideology, however, is seen as the absolute truth, another characteristic that Pro-NRW shares with the Salafists. No doubts and no differentiations are allowed. Both ideologies are rooted in an extreme simplification of reality, allowing them to easily decide who is right and who is wrong. Nuance would only endanger their simple truths.
"Totalitarian thought is rooted in the willingness to promote one's own opinion with violence if necessary," Miliopoulos says. The Salafists made clear in Bonn, for example, that they are prepared to fight for what they see as the infallibility of their beliefs. And not just with words, but with rocks, sticks and knives if necessary.
In the final analysis, extremists such as those from Pro-NRW and the Salafists are united in their aspiration to do away with democracy and the freedoms it guarantees.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-similarities-between-right-wing-extremists-and-islamists-a-832294.html
Good to see that some in Germany get it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)between the Shari'a law the religulously insane fear so much and the "biblical" law the Xtian Dominionists favor. Both require killing "heretics," gays, "adulterers," "fornicators" and a wide variety of those who engage in normal human behaviors. You can't get a molecule between the two insane bigotries.
Initech
(100,040 posts)This is why we should not allow them to enter our government - it's how Taliban style governments are created.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)malaise
(268,711 posts)Rec
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)as true radicalism/extremism is authoritarian, lacks individual thought and demands total obedience. See Communism and Nazism...two sides of the same coin. Democracy is imperfect and sometimes inconvenient, but falls somewhere in the middle.
Religion adds a further intensity...fundamental Onward Christian Soldiers on Crusades, fundamental Islamists on Jihad, fundamental Hebrew/Jews on Zionism.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)You said: The extreme right and the extreme left have frequently had points of convergence as true radicalism/extremism is authoritarian, lacks individual thought and demands total obedience.
Give examples of leftist movements that are authoritarian. TIA.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)We don't even have to worry about any moderate leftism. Actually, there's virtually no leftism left in the U.S. at all. So you don't have to worry.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)teahaddists. christofascists. the Reich Wing. the Talifundies and their kkkristian mullahs.
We have been trying to wake people up to this since midway into President Drunkenfratboy's first term!
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)I love your over population thingy. I was all up for ZPG (Zero Population Growth) in the 1970s. We need it now more than ever!
polichick
(37,152 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)GETPLANING
(846 posts)The first segment compared the rise of neoconservatism to the rise of Islamic extremism and how they used the exact same type of fearmongering about each other.