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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:00 PM May 2012

Obama On JP Morgan: ‘This Is Why We Passed Wall Street Reform’

Obama On JP Morgan: ‘This Is Why We Passed Wall Street Reform’

President Obama told the hosts of a pre-taped episode of ABC’s The View that the JP Morgan trade fiasco exemplified the reason why he pushed for Wall Street reform, according to ABC News:

“JPMorgan is one of the best managed banks there is. Jamie Dimon, the head of it, is one of the smartest bankers we got and they still lost $2 billion and counting,” the president said. “We don’t know all the details. It’s going to be investigated but this is why we passed Wall street Reform.”


Watch below:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/obama-on-jp-morgan-this-is-why-we

Occupy the SEC agrees.

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Dear Sirs and Madam:

Occupy the SEC1 submits this comment letter in response to the above-mentioned regulatory agencies’ (“Agencies”) notice of Proposed Rulemaking (“NPR”, “Proposed Rule”)2 implementing Section 619 of the Dodd-Frank Act (“the Act”).3

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The United States aspires to democracy, but no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power.4 Accordingly, Occupy the SEC is delighted to participate in the public comment process for the implementation of Section 619 of the Dodd-Frank Act by the SEC, Federal Reserve, OCC and FDIC (.“the Agencies.”). This country.’s governing principles of transparency and due process mandate that any rules implemented by our regulators comport with the democratically-elected legislature.’s intention to protect the people from the widespread banking abuses and excesses of the recent past. We believe the Volcker Rule is important to the future of the banking industry and, if strongly enforced, will help move our financial system in a more fair, transparent, and sustainable direction. Prohibiting banking entities from engaging in proprietary trading and banning their sponsorship of covered funds are key elements to regulating the financial system and giving force to the Dodd-Frank Act. At its core, the Volcker Rule seeks to make sure that if a banking entity fails, it does not bring down the whole system with it. We appreciate the momentous challenges that the Agencies continue to face in effectively implementing the Rule, and we present these comments to assist them in their task.

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http://www.occupythesec.org/letter/OSEC%20-%20OCC-2011-14%20-%20Comment%20Letter.pdf


Occupy the regulatory system!

Posted by Suzy Khimm

NEW YORK — Occupy Wall Street has moved. Its new address: 60 Wall Street.

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Kline, a former Wall Street trader-turned-Occupier, is a member of Occupy the SEC, an offshoot of the large movement that has burrowed deep into the regulatory process. At this moment, she’s trying to figure out if the drafting of the Volcker Rule — a provision of President Obama’s Wall Street overhaul that would restrict commercial banks from making speculative investments that do not benefit their customers — is tight enough to keep banks in check.

After much discussion, the group agreed that the Volcker Rule’s earlier definition of clearing agencies, which banks use for exchanging futures contracts, was “clear and tough and good,” but decided that it was worth double-checking section 17(a) of questions that the Commodity Futures Trading Commission raised about it.

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While the Dodd-Frank act of 2010 provides a blueprint for the new regulations on Wall Street, it’s up to federal regulators to determine precisely how these guidelines will be put into effect. The regulatory process is intended to provide transparency into this process: Regulators will typically issue a preliminary version of a new rule and then allow for outside feedback during a public comment period.

Anyone is allowed to weigh in. But industry groups, lawyers and lobbyists issue an overwhelming number of formal comment letters to regulators, as they tend to have the most money, resources and technical expertise...Occupy the SEC aims to be a counterweight to this deep-pocketed lobbying push. Over the past six months, the Occupiers have slogged through the 300-plus pages of the Volcker Rule to figure out how the regulation would work in practice and whether it would — or could — come anywhere close to what its authors had intended.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/occupy-the-regulatory-system/2012/04/27/gIQAjo21lT_blog.html


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Obama On JP Morgan: ‘This Is Why We Passed Wall Street Reform’ (Original Post) ProSense May 2012 OP
Now they think it is upwards of a 4 Billion dollar loss. (CNN) applegrove May 2012 #1
we will see tomorrow how they responded Enrique May 2012 #2
The Volcker Rule has yet to be implemented. I believe it is still under "public comments" scrutiny. Luminous Animal May 2012 #4
that's what I heard too, it would be considered a hedge Enrique May 2012 #5
HUH? This just doesn't make sense..If you read Obama's Quote...and look at what JP Morgan just did? KoKo May 2012 #3
Here's how it makes sense Icicle May 2012 #6
I'm confused too. grasswire May 2012 #7
See Reply #6. n/t boxman15 May 2012 #10
That's the political answer Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2012 #14
You should actually read what Occupy the SEC wrote. girl gone mad May 2012 #8
Yeah ProSense May 2012 #9
We passed reform so JPMorgan Chase could do the same thing all over again? gratuitous May 2012 #11
It illustrates why the passed 'reform' was a sham. n/t PoliticAverse May 2012 #12
Yeah, ProSense May 2012 #13

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
2. we will see tomorrow how they responded
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:20 PM
May 2012

i like the View, but I am not confident in their willingness to follow up on that odd vote of confidence in JP Morgan and Jamie Dimon. Also, to ask the necessary question, Dodd Frank DID pass, so why did this happen?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. The Volcker Rule has yet to be implemented. I believe it is still under "public comments" scrutiny.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:25 PM
May 2012

Oh and Jamie Dimon (who does NOT want the Volcker Rule to pass, has also claimed that, even if the Volcker Rule had been implemented, it would not have been applicable in this situation.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. that's what I heard too, it would be considered a hedge
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:44 PM
May 2012

and hedges are allowed under the Volcker Rule. Do you think they will be getting into this on the View? I hope so, they ought to. We'll see.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. HUH? This just doesn't make sense..If you read Obama's Quote...and look at what JP Morgan just did?
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:23 PM
May 2012

Your Quote from President Obama:

“JPMorgan is one of the best managed banks there is. Jamie Dimon, the head of it, is one of the smartest bankers we got and they still lost $2 billion and counting,” the president said. “We don’t know all the details. It’s going to be investigated but this is why we passed Wall street Reform.”

Icicle

(121 posts)
6. Here's how it makes sense
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:02 PM
May 2012

My translation of that is:
"they're one of the best, and yet they STILL screwed the pooch. That's why we need to regulate them."

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. I'm confused too.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:06 PM
May 2012

I hope that was not a "non-statement statement" from Obama. It could mean anything.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
14. That's the political answer
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:24 PM
May 2012

to show he's not out to get them. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but he's not tipping his hand......

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
8. You should actually read what Occupy the SEC wrote.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:23 PM
May 2012

JP Morgan was not and would not have been in violation of Dodd-Frank.

This is why our government received so much criticism from informed commentators for taking this foolish approach of enacting feel-good legislation rather than doing what will ultimately be necessary.

How many times have I warned you over the years that Dodd-Frank would do nothing to prevent the next crisis? Even if it ever gets fully implemented, it will be ineffective.

Good that milquetoasts like Klein have been forced to write on this topic since its become such a glaring clusterfuck of fail, but bad that they still pretend a little tweak here or there will make everything okay.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Yeah
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:43 PM
May 2012

"You should actually read what Occupy the SEC wrote."

...I understand clearly what "loophole" means. Do you? A loophole can be closed. The key point is that the law made significant changes, but some issues still need to be addressed. Some of these issues can be addressed in the rule-making process. The focus of group's letter is to strengthen the rule.

Merkley: J.P. Morgan’s Trading Losses Show Need for Strong Volcker Rule

Washington, DC- Oregon’s Senator Jeff Merkley, cosponsor of the Merkley-Levin provision in Dodd-Frank that put into law the Volcker Rule, issued the following statement after news that J.P. Morgan lost at least $2 billion in portfolio hedging trades made by their risk management division.

“What yesterday’s announcement makes abundantly clear is that even J.P. Morgan, supposedly the best risk manager on Wall Street, can make bets that go spectacularly wrong. This is exactly why the banks that our businesses and families depend for loans should not be in the hedge fund business.

“Moreover, it is essential that bank regulators issue rules that do not permit hedge fund investments by Wall Street banks to be disguised as ‘market making’ or ‘risk mitigation,’ as this case so dramatically demonstrates.

"I ask, once again, that regulators implement without delay a Volcker Rule as intended by Congress, with a clear, effective firewall between hedge fund-like trading and traditional banking.

"American families and businesses should not be subsidizing these types of risks or victimized by these types of losses. We need a wholesale change of culture at our banks and at our regulatory agencies, which is precisely what the Volcker Rule firewall is intended to create."

http://www.merkley.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/?id=14790A0A-6018-4331-AF15-7D8B842C9CF8



"How many times have I warned you over the years that Dodd-Frank would do nothing to prevent the next crisis? Even if it ever gets fully implemented, it will be ineffective."

You've warned me? Are you serious?






gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. We passed reform so JPMorgan Chase could do the same thing all over again?
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:01 PM
May 2012

Some reform.

I hope we "reform" things again with another meaningless round of toothless feel-good laws and leave all the same robber barons (unpunished) in place to do it again. That'll teach someone somewhere a lesson, fer sure.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Yeah,
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:22 PM
May 2012

"It illustrates why the passed 'reform' was a sham."

...it should be repealed before it's fully implemented, and replaced with something that can be slammed before it's fully implemented. That'll show Wall Street.

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