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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:37 PM May 2012

Irony

People who identify themselves as strongly Christian are likelier to favor the death penalty and, one presumes, given the way we humans rationalize our positions, less concerned than average about the likelihood of innocent people being executed.

Is there any reason a devout Christian might think an innocent man could be executed?

Any narrative of an innocent man being executed...some...oh, it's on the tip of my tongue. An instance...a familiar exemplar of an innocent man being executed?

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patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. It's an archetype. A pattern of human behavior. Manifested in the life of a man named Jeshua &
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:08 AM
May 2012

revealing to those who wish to know "the way, the truth, and the life ... " how WE inflict suffering and death on the innocent.

It's also called scapegoating and it's why Christians say "He died for our sins", though I fear they don't all of them mean that the way some of us do . . . as "He died BECAUSE of our sins". Certainly the people of Iraq and Afghanistan reveal this truth pretty clearly, as do the INNOCENT who die from Capital Punishment. They are Jesus. And there are those of us who also think that even the guilty, as exemplars of our imperfections that are at least some part of their lives and their crimes, are not alone in their guilt.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
3. The guy in Texas, Carlos de Luna.
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:09 AM
May 2012

How about Cameron Todd Willingham, executed for an arson that killed his family...a crime he didn't commit, also in Texas. Claude Jones, also executed on flawed evidence..that was Texas, too, imagine that.

Then, of course, there was Troy Davis. Reggie Clemons, still on death row. Larry Griffin of Missouri.

Canada doesn't have the death penalty. I'm grateful. In fact, the US is the only western country to cling to that barbaric practice.



 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
5. Yes the US is still barberic
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:37 AM
May 2012

As if the threat of the death penalty actually deters the true sociopath who kills people. It does not and cannot. They are "wired" differently from the rest of us.

Every study I am aware of shows the death penalty has no effect on the rate of crimes committed that are punishable by death.

How many stories have we all seen on 20/20 or 60 Minutes about how modern forensics and DNA technology have vindicated the claims of convicted felons in prison for life or on death row that they were innocent? How long do we want to rank right up there with all those Middle Eastern countries whose human rights records are so poor by continuing to practice the death penalty?

It sill baffles me that most of the pro-life people are also pro-death penalty. Of course their pro-life concerns always seem to center around a pre-born person in the womb and to hell with that person once it's born. Fuck education, nutrition, housing and any other service to a poor kid. But damn well make sure it's mom has to carry it to term.

Permanut

(5,597 posts)
4. My experience has been
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:36 AM
May 2012

that people who identify themselves as "strongly Christian" are likelier to be right wing nutjobs. Not very scientfic, just my observation. And in my opinion, this makes them the very antithesis of the early Christian principles, and those that I hold as one of those other Christians.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
6. Capital Punishment: Good enough for Jesus
Thu May 17, 2012, 01:02 AM
May 2012

Therefore good enough for you.

I think that is how the logic runs there.

BillStein

(758 posts)
8. santorum is the best example
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:10 AM
May 2012

He's against abortion, because, as a good Catholic, he follows the Pope

He's for capital punishment, because the Pope's opinion isn't important

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