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Thu May 17, 2012, 11:49 AM

 

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To me the legitimate argument to conservatives is this "Can you go to City hall and get married?" the answer is of course yes. Then why is religion even in the discussion. It is a civil ceremony and not a religious one. What legitimate reason is there against gay marriage?

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wilt the stilt May 2012 OP
justiceischeap May 2012 #1
ejpoeta May 2012 #2
MineralMan May 2012 #3
ejpoeta May 2012 #5
jwirr May 2012 #4

Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 11:52 AM

1. The toon in this post answers your question

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 02:07 PM

2. that's what I've been saying. When you get married in a church you are peforming

two ceremonies.... a civil one and a religious one at the same time. You can get married civilly without the church. Either way in order to be recognized by the state you need that piece of paper issued by the state. I got married by a judge. There was no religiousness to it. Yet my marriage is valid and accepted. That being any denial of gay marriage is descrimination of a group of people and is unconstitutional. You are right... there is no religious part of this except what the religious put onto it.

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Response to ejpoeta (Reply #2)

Thu May 17, 2012, 02:13 PM

3. Marriage is a civil contract.

Both parties sign a document, and it is witnessed by others. That's the essential aspect of it. That contract gets recorded by some local authority and becomes a matter of public record. No religion needs to be involved.

Personally, I think a couple should be able to go to the County Clerk's office or to whatever place issues marriage licences, take a couple of friends with them, pay whatever fee is required to record the contract, and sign the forms. That should be the end of that. Or, as an alternative, they should be able to take the form to a notary public for witnessing, and then return it to the Clerk for recording.

If people want to have some religious ceremony, that's fine, but the contract is a civil matter.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #3)

Thu May 17, 2012, 07:45 PM

5. i agree with you.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 03:19 PM

4. I think this brings up another question. Will any law force a church to perform a marriage it does

not want to. My brother and sister in law wanted to get married in the church. The church refused because it had not had time to go through the counseling session that they require. I am all for same sex marriages but this question will be asked.

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