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marmar

(77,077 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:40 PM May 2012

Facebook underwriters prop up stock as it nears break-even mark


NEW YORK – The big pop in Facebook Inc. shares never came.

Buyers did not rush into the market to snap up shares of the social networker. And the big Wall Street banks that brought Facebook public scrambled to prevent the stock from collapsing into declines.

The underwriters averted a potential debacle by scooping up shares of the company during the Nasdaq debut. This propped up the stock, keeping it above the $38 offering price through most of the day.

“When a deal gets priced and breaks price on the first day, that’s definitely a major embarrassment," said trader Andrew Frankel, co-president of Stuart Frankel & Co. "But it didn’t do that here – at least for the time being.” .............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-facebook-trading-20120518,0,6622700.story



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Facebook underwriters prop up stock as it nears break-even mark (Original Post) marmar May 2012 OP
... Skinner May 2012 #1
The muppets are becoming self-aware. n/t girl gone mad May 2012 #2
LOL Canuckistanian May 2012 #21
They are probably shoveling this crap exboyfil May 2012 #3
What you said. But they can't prop it up for long. DCKit May 2012 #6
Yes and I am sure the common man is going to pay exboyfil May 2012 #11
The stock market used to be a place... Speck Tater May 2012 #4
That cant be right! Facebook has a surefire business model! Warren DeMontague May 2012 #5
Selling ad space and users personal information to anyone with $$$$. DCKit May 2012 #7
Yeah, i know. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #8
Click-through rates on FB's ads are abysmal though. NYC Liberal May 2012 #17
It's so damn easy to make money these days, as long as you already have some. joe_sixpack May 2012 #9
Even more so... Ghost Dog May 2012 #16
Facebook is fading, and fading fast. Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #10
Bought for $580m, sold for $35m: Murdoch cuts his MySpace losses. shimonitanegi May 2012 #23
Heh. Scurrilous May 2012 #12
Idiot bait IPO. HopeHoops May 2012 #13
Good. Fuck everyone involved. RagAss May 2012 #14
This stock was totally over hyped by the media. NCarolinawoman May 2012 #15
It's pretty hard to find someone who is really hot on this stock. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #18
Selling personal data to marketers is profitable. Dawson Leery May 2012 #19
"prop up"? Canuckistanian May 2012 #20
I saw a poll right here on DU saying that 50% of Americans think FB is a fad. TheManInTheMac May 2012 #22

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. They are probably shoveling this crap
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:00 PM
May 2012

into their elderly customer's managed portfolio as we read this. Calling up the mutual fund managers and telling them to take one for the team. It will all bet buried.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
6. What you said. But they can't prop it up for long.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
May 2012

I've been wrong before (even before the market became totally rigged), but when >50% of Americans say "Facebook is a fad", there's not a whole lot of hope that the stock is going to make anyone but the original owners (and the brokers of the IPO) rich.

This deal reeks in so many ways.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
11. Yes and I am sure the common man is going to pay
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:28 PM
May 2012

for it in some fashion (probably in different ways). The first is what I thought when I heard where propping it up. You don't expect them to hold onto that paper. As they say in Wall Street "slap some lipstick on that pig". Then the taxpayer will be asked to bail out some fool who risked his business on the IPO.

I don't mind if suckers buy it directly. That is their business. I do mind when back stratching pension fund managers load their portfolio with this (hey the attorney that ran the IPO plays golf with Pension USA fund manager for example. Maybe we can get some 529 money while we are at it.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
4. The stock market used to be a place...
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:00 PM
May 2012

... to rsasie money for growing a new company, or expanding an existing one.

Now mature companies that don't actually need money to grow with are IPO'd for the sole purpose of putting cash in the pockets of the owners.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
7. Selling ad space and users personal information to anyone with $$$$.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:24 PM
May 2012

Agent Mike loves them, too. It's one-stop shopping for the intelligence agencies.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
17. Click-through rates on FB's ads are abysmal though.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:42 PM
May 2012

Google actually captures people not just by their interests, but when they're actually looking to buy.

If I'm dicking around on Facebook, chances are pretty low that I'm shopping around for Widget, even if Facebook's "data" says I'm the type of person who might be interested.

If I'm searching Google for "Widget" then chances are I'm looking to buy.

joe_sixpack

(721 posts)
9. It's so damn easy to make money these days, as long as you already have some.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:27 PM
May 2012

Wealthy investors had an inside shot at getting this stock at its IPO price of 38 dollars. They probably had sell orders in so that when it hit its high of around 42, they locked in a 10 percent gain. If you had an extra million or so, that's not a bad take for one day. Not very much of a risk for them either. I thought I read that Bono too might have made quite a chunk of change off of this.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
16. Even more so...
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:37 PM
May 2012

... As a point of order, Facebook really went quietly IPO about a year or so at $15, and was being traded on 'private exchanges.' Today was its general public IPO.

/... http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com.es/

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
10. Facebook is fading, and fading fast.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:27 PM
May 2012

the IPO is a joke.

It will go in the way of MySpace.

Stocks will plummet to 0.01 and delisted within a year.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
15. This stock was totally over hyped by the media.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:31 PM
May 2012

You couldn't get away from it.

What phony times we live in.

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
18. It's pretty hard to find someone who is really hot on this stock.
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:04 PM
May 2012

Really. In all of the news articles I read about it everyone is laughing at it in the comment sections. In all countries.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
19. Selling personal data to marketers is profitable.
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:45 PM
May 2012

Though it is not worth anywhere near one hundred billion dollars.
Anyone who bought Facebook stock is a fool to say the least.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
20. "prop up"?
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:47 PM
May 2012

You mean the stock is less than a day old and it's already in need of outside help?

That's sad. I'm SO glad I didn't take out that third mortgage on the house.

TheManInTheMac

(985 posts)
22. I saw a poll right here on DU saying that 50% of Americans think FB is a fad.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:03 PM
May 2012

Told me right there this was going to be a flop. People comparing this to Google's IPO failed to see the fact that Google provided a critical product. Granted, there were many other search engines out there, but Google did it best, continues to do it best, and continues to develop new products and services, whereas Facebook is a one-trick pony. And a long-in-the-tooth one at that.

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