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CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:07 PM May 2012

The DU Friday Afternoon Challenge for your beautiful minds: A Face in the Crowd!

Here are some memorable standouts in a group, in famous works of art. See if you can identify the artist and the name of the work.

...and, as always, folks, please do not cheat...

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The DU Friday Afternoon Challenge for your beautiful minds: A Face in the Crowd! (Original Post) CTyankee May 2012 OP
Does "some Hapsburg half-wit" qualify for #3? lapislzi May 2012 #1
#3??? CTyankee May 2012 #7
It's "The Hapsburg Nose"... DCKit May 2012 #8
Rubens is present in this Challenge... CTyankee May 2012 #39
Damn, I know I recognize at least a couple of these! CaliforniaPeggy May 2012 #2
You're almost there with the correct answer, Peggy! Leave it to you to know CTyankee May 2012 #4
The Third-Class Carriage by Daumier Angry Dragon May 2012 #5
Is number 6 by Modigliani? n/t CaliforniaPeggy May 2012 #3
You know, it DOES resemble Modigliani, but it is not. Several centuries separate this work CTyankee May 2012 #6
#3 is "Self portrait" by Mitt Romney. OffWithTheirHeads May 2012 #9
No. 3 answer is... Brickbat May 2012 #10
Do you not love this painting? How terrific is it! Yes! It is from that painting! CTyankee May 2012 #14
Truly, a masterpiece. Brickbat May 2012 #19
Have you seen this painting? CTyankee May 2012 #28
Many years ago, on a trip to Paris. Brickbat May 2012 #31
I was 16 when my mother took me to Paris and I too didn't want to go! CTyankee May 2012 #32
Same thing. OffWithTheirHeads May 2012 #15
KInd of over the top stuff! But, man, do you really NOT want to see what it was like? CTyankee May 2012 #20
Oh hell yeah! But the liklyhood that I will ever get to see the Louvre is slim to none. OffWithTheirHeads May 2012 #35
I think I've seen it before Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #33
Jimmy Hendricks HopeHoops May 2012 #11
No. 4 answer is... Brickbat May 2012 #12
Yes! Sad, tho. CTyankee May 2012 #16
Yes, it was the eyes that did it for me. Brickbat May 2012 #18
I described the eyes of a "woman of Algiers" as being "black as figs" in a paper I wrote on that CTyankee May 2012 #22
I thought I recognized that face hfojvt May 2012 #36
#6 .. hedda_foil May 2012 #13
There is that resemblance but it isn't El Greco. I can't quite understand it... CTyankee May 2012 #17
1 is by Mantegna kenny blankenship May 2012 #21
Yes, it is the Gonzaga family and its retinue by Montegna, a famous 15th century work. CTyankee May 2012 #24
Number two: Rembrandt's Olive Garden? Brother Buzz May 2012 #23
It's by a French painter of the mid 19th century, named Daumier. He felt very strongly for CTyankee May 2012 #25
I almost thought it was of Van Gogh's early works IcyPeas May 2012 #27
You know, it was an era between the Romantics and the post Impressionists like Van Gogh. CTyankee May 2012 #29
I thought the same. lapislzi May 2012 #43
The Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam is phenomenal. It is vast. CTyankee May 2012 #48
Damn! I was stumped again. panader0 May 2012 #26
Were you an art history major? I'd be interested to know where your background is from. CTyankee May 2012 #30
Wild Ass Guess ellisonz May 2012 #34
Thank you, ellisonz! But it is not a Michelangelo... CTyankee May 2012 #38
K&R burrowowl May 2012 #37
Well, folks, #5 and #6 have yet to be guessed... CTyankee May 2012 #40
Hmm...early Renaissance, you say? lapislzi May 2012 #41
I looked up his dates. He lived in the second half of the 15th and early 16th century but is CTyankee May 2012 #44
#5: Rubens, The Consequences of War pinboy3niner May 2012 #42
You got it! Good on ya! CTyankee May 2012 #45
I keep getting to these threads late lately suffragette May 2012 #46
I'm glad you make them. You have contributed a LOT to them in the past! CTyankee May 2012 #47
Lovely to see you and from your hints #6 Botticelli Barnaba altarpiece suffragette May 2012 #49
I'd love to see an analysis of this painting to understand why St. John looks so pained in it. CTyankee May 2012 #50
Sounds like you're going in a likely direction to me, suffragette May 2012 #51
I wouldn't doubt that Modigliani studied the Early Renaissance artists. It sounds logical that CTyankee May 2012 #52

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
1. Does "some Hapsburg half-wit" qualify for #3?
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

Looks like a Rubens, but not my area of expertise. Remind me to tell you about my crazy art teacher some day, and his Rubens stories...

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
8. It's "The Hapsburg Nose"...
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:50 PM
May 2012

though the actual Hapsburg nose isn't even that attractive. The artist used up his artistic license for the year on that one.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
39. Rubens is present in this Challenge...
Sat May 19, 2012, 08:55 AM
May 2012

and I'd love to hear about the crazy art teacher and his Rubens stories...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,588 posts)
2. Damn, I know I recognize at least a couple of these!
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:20 PM
May 2012

The second one is called "3rd Class travelers" or something like that. I cannot for the life of me recall the artist!

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
4. You're almost there with the correct answer, Peggy! Leave it to you to know
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:29 PM
May 2012

the most socially conscious artwork of the group! (with the possible exception of #4)

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
6. You know, it DOES resemble Modigliani, but it is not. Several centuries separate this work
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:31 PM
May 2012

from Modigliani's...and that's a hint...

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
31. Many years ago, on a trip to Paris.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:26 PM
May 2012

I saw a lot of wonderful art on that trip, but as a teenager traveling with my parents through Europe, I spent more time than I should have sulking because I wasn't doing "cool" stuff.

OTOH, I do remember seeing this, as well as other masterpieces such as the Mona Lisa, Winged Venus and so on. I may have been sulky, but I did appreciate art, even then.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
32. I was 16 when my mother took me to Paris and I too didn't want to go!
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:38 PM
May 2012

Winged Victory nearly knocked me off my feet! I was not expecting that!

I didn't see Coronation on that trip (or didn't remember it) but I did see it a year ago in my second trip to Paris. Impressive work.

I am hoping to go with my teenaged granddaughter to Spain next March and visit some great works in the Prado and Reina Sofia in Madrid. She will resist, but "resistance is futile" I will tell her...at LEAST she will see Las Meninas by Velazquez, the 3rd of May by Goya and Guernica by Picasso...shees...

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
20. KInd of over the top stuff! But, man, do you really NOT want to see what it was like?
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:45 PM
May 2012

BAd ass that he was, Napoleon was somebody you'd kinda like to look at (if he was gonna be crowned anyway). BIG, historical painting, in the Louvre, and how grand can you get?

You gotta love it...

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
35. Oh hell yeah! But the liklyhood that I will ever get to see the Louvre is slim to none.
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:39 PM
May 2012

Do I appreciate what folks could create without power tools or even artificial light? I stand in awe in wonder.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
12. No. 4 answer is...
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:03 PM
May 2012

Delacroix's Massacre of Chios. I knew it was a Delacroix by looking at it but I had to go through the works to find the face.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
16. Yes! Sad, tho.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:35 PM
May 2012

The eyes are, to me, a dead give-away. Are you a fan of Delacroix? This painting is not one of Delacroix's most famous. There are many others that are more famous and more loved (i have my own!). So I'm interested in how you know and like this particular painting...

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
18. Yes, it was the eyes that did it for me.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:40 PM
May 2012

His faces are like no others. I didn't know the painting -- I wondered if it was a face I had never seen in one of the better known ones, such as Liberty, bien sur. It also strongly reminded me of Orphan Girl at the Cemetery, which, I now see, was a study for the massacre painting. So then I went to eugenedelacroix.org (lovely!) and found the painting.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
22. I described the eyes of a "woman of Algiers" as being "black as figs" in a paper I wrote on that
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:51 PM
May 2012

work by Delacroix when I was in grad school. He had that look down, didn't he? Orphan Girl has a similar, kinda wild, look. He must have sought that out, to get that effect down so well, I keep thinking...but maybe as a Romantic painter, it was just effect, and did not have a center to his beliefs...

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
17. There is that resemblance but it isn't El Greco. I can't quite understand it...
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:37 PM
May 2012

this was painted at a very different time from El Greco, so I don't quite get the connection, but I do see the connection...

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
21. 1 is by Mantegna
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:48 PM
May 2012

Didn't recognize the work, but his style. Looking up his pics it says
"Barbara Gonzaga", but the more interesting face belongs to another woman. I don't suppose anyone knows her name.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
24. Yes, it is the Gonzaga family and its retinue by Montegna, a famous 15th century work.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:53 PM
May 2012

There are lots of people in this painting. I don't know who she was. As a woman, of course, she was discounted as an important person in the painting...

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
25. It's by a French painter of the mid 19th century, named Daumier. He felt very strongly for
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:02 PM
May 2012

the poor in France and painted scenes that brought to life their struggle just to survive.

I thought this painting would be perfect for a DU challenge question. Daumier so well painted the terrible situation of the poor in France of his day. He recorded this for history in his paintings.

This is just one of his very important works. I find him very affecting, as a progressive...

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
29. You know, it was an era between the Romantics and the post Impressionists like Van Gogh.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:21 PM
May 2012

I wonder how much Van Gogh would have been influenced by Daumier and the other Realists. Not sure. Photography was a big intervention between the two and that could have been a big difference in the styles. I never took an Art HIstory course but I wish I had. Ithink it would have been helpful to me and fabulously interesting!

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
43. I thought the same.
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:13 AM
May 2012

Although I knew I was wrong.

Never forget that Van Gogh was, heart and soul, Dutch. He carried that sensibility with him to France. He has more in common with the Dutch Masters (not the cigars) of the seventeenth century than with any French painter.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
48. The Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam is phenomenal. It is vast.
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:40 PM
May 2012

I became "undone" at the very end of my visit, looking at one of his wheatfields with birds. That was quite a journey through the canals. I certainly got the feel of the colors of the Netherlands, the changing skies, the browns and greys and beiges (I was there in mid October). For all that, tho, Van Gogh managed those brilliant blues and yellows...

panader0

(25,816 posts)
26. Damn! I was stumped again.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:02 PM
May 2012

Maybe if you get into the Impressionist period I will do better.
Kudos to all you smart DUers who knew answers!
Thanks for the test CT. Keep 'em comin'. Even when I fail the test I am learning.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
30. Were you an art history major? I'd be interested to know where your background is from.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:23 PM
May 2012

I have no real background in art history, just stuff I do on my own now that I am retired and have lots of time of my hands!

Tell me more...

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
40. Well, folks, #5 and #6 have yet to be guessed...
Sat May 19, 2012, 08:58 AM
May 2012

I'm going off to tutor but will return later...

HINT: the artist of #6 also created two of the most famous paintings of the Early Renaissance, both of which are in the Uffizi and are among the two or three works of art that visitors to Florence flock to see...

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
41. Hmm...early Renaissance, you say?
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:11 AM
May 2012

That is interesting, because I would have guessed later due to the elongation of the features. Very mannered. But, even Mickey Angel was twisting his figures towards the end of his career.

I don't know who the artist is, and I've never cheated in one of your challenges. It's much more fun reading the replies.

I knew #4 was Delacroix, but I was too lazy to look up the images.

Is #1 Artemisia Gentilleschi? I saw her exhibit several years ago at the Met and it was fabulous!

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
44. I looked up his dates. He lived in the second half of the 15th and early 16th century but is
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:17 PM
May 2012

listed as an Early Renaissance artist. You are right about the mannered look of this painting. It is so unlike his very famous works, which are always described as "charming." That is one of the reasons I decided to show it. It is part of an altarpiece, dated 1488. I can see how, by itself, this detail could be interpreted as Mannerist (not one of my favorite periods!). BTW, it is part of a "sacra conversazione." Also in his very own room at the Uffizi.

#1 has been guessed. It is the Gonzaga family and its retinue, by Andrea Montegna.

I agree completely with you on Michelangelo's later works. It's hard for me to like them because of the "floating in space" characteristic of Mannerism and also with what Mary McCarthy wrote sarcastically about Mannerism's "candy mint" colors (lots of Pontormo is like that...ugh).

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
45. You got it! Good on ya!
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:20 PM
May 2012

What gave it away (other than the general Rubens-y look to it)?

I love the back story on this painting. Rubens had spent some years as a diplomat trying to avert wars. He was doing an honorable job, serving his country. That is one of the reasons I like this painting. I feel a natural empathy toward him for it...

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
49. Lovely to see you and from your hints #6 Botticelli Barnaba altarpiece
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:19 PM
May 2012

Never would have gotten it without hints.
Such an unBotticelli expression though the colors are still in his zone.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
50. I'd love to see an analysis of this painting to understand why St. John looks so pained in it.
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:45 PM
May 2012

It's almost as if he is there to remind everyone that, tho this is a Virgin Enthroned with Child, St. John will witness and suffer greatly at the foot of the Cross as well. I understand that Botticelli was very religious, so that explanation would make some sense. However, since I am not a religious person and was not brought up in much religion, it has to be a wild guess on my part.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
51. Sounds like you're going in a likely direction to me,
Sat May 19, 2012, 03:07 PM
May 2012

lapsed Catholic that I am.

I was trying to think of what modern painting this reminded me of and oddly, it made me think of the Modigliani nude I saw at the Courtauld. Definitely not in mood, but the they could almost be father and daughter in their facial resemblance.


CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
52. I wouldn't doubt that Modigliani studied the Early Renaissance artists. It sounds logical that
Sat May 19, 2012, 03:24 PM
May 2012

there would be some influences here and there...

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