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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe AP desperately needs to get its shit together and start existing in the 21st Century…
It's not the 1950's anymore.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/amal-clooney-actors-wife-tweet_55e3f027e4b0c818f6184ecb?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000030
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)AP is a corporation owned by the RW 1% after all.....they are not fair or balanced.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Owned by its member stations and newspapers. They all pay a fee as members. Internally that's what they're referred to: "members." Nobody ever described or referred to them as "affiliates" the way stations affiliated with the NBC or the ABC network, for example, were called "affiliates." (I used to work at NBC - AND at an ABC O&O, too, btw.)
I used to work at the AP - for nine years. It's not a corporation. Never has been. Just wasn't set up that way. If any RWs are part of the ownership, it's because they're that way at the station level.
After I left, however, I noticed they'd hired ron fournier to head the Washington DC bureau. He set out to change things, issuing an "all-hands" memo dictating that reporters and writers could and should start putting point of view into their political coverage. When I was still there, everybody tried pretty damn hard to be objective, and NOT to betray any personal points of view or attitudes or political slants. He fucked that up. Not there anymore, but at that point, as far as I'm concerned, they were tainted.
But they don't have a big corporate owner or a 1%er at the top, as the other conventional networks do. Hell, with what little they paid ANYBODY, no one at the AP would EVER qualify as a 1%er.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)erronis
(15,241 posts)From wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Fournier)"
Controversy
In July 2008, while investigators for the House Oversight Committee were looking into the death of Pat Tillman, they uncovered a 2004 email from Fournier to Karl Rove encouraging him to "keep up the fight."
On August 23, 2008, following U.S. Senator and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's announcement of his selection of Senator Joe Biden as a running mate, Fournier wrote a widely circulated piece titled "Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence". A Washington Monthly columnist described the piece as "mirror[ing] the Republican line with minimal variation". Editor & Publisher noted that Fournier's article "gained wide linkage at the Drudge Report, Hot Air and numerous other conservative sites...." and was targeted by MoveOn.org for alleged bias.
In February 2013, Fournier wrote a column about breaking ties with a White House official after a pattern of "vulgarity, abusive language" and "veiled threat(s)", but did not identify the official due to his policy of granting blanket automatic anonymity to all his sources. Fournier received some criticism from commentator Glenn Greenwald for behaving in a "petulant" manner and for his policy on anonymity for sources.
calimary
(81,220 posts)OF COURSE he'd wind up at the National Review! Either that or Pox, but he definitely had one of those things we referred to as "a face for radio." ALWAYS led with his wrong-wing slant. Jerk! What the hell they were thinking - hiring him to run the Washington bureau - I will never understand. Glad he didn't last long there!!!
And here's the thing of it: At the AP, we WEREN'T supposed to be slanted - AT ALL!!!!!!
randys1
(16,286 posts)pun intended
but shit, if the AP is influenced by rightwing assholes, then what is left?
calimary
(81,220 posts)You weren't going to get rich doing so. There was NO pizazz involved whatsoever. Everybody that newsroom struck me as another real-life version of Clark Kent. It was always a roomful of mild-mannered Clark Kents, both males and females but mostly men, whether at the LA bureau or the BNC in Washington (Broadcast News Center) or anywhere else. I once visited their print headquarters in NYC, at 50 Rock, and there, too - sure enough. Another roomful of mild-mannered Clark Kents. NEVER a Superman costume. But a whole lot of the humble not glorious or flashy or super-powered Clark Kents. Makes me think of the Geek Squad at Best Buy. Buncha dudes in rumpled clothes, hunched over their computers either on the phone with a source or writing, writing, writing. But you could count on what one of the member services guys referred to as "three square a day." As in - you certainly had enough to eat your three meals a day and cover all the basic expenses like rent or house payment and shoes for the kids and gas in the car and basic insurance premiums and so forth.
Fuck! I remember being on duty in L.A. the night former Beirut bureau chief Terry Anderson was released from several years as a hostage. CNN went live to the AP World Headquarters in NY. Somebody'd set up a camera in the newsroom - all ready to go for a live shot whenever the story could be confirmed (any minute now, folks!) and then it was all about waiting for the word to become official. It was a really boring visual - you could see part of what looked like a pretty empty newsroom (it was maybe 3am in New York) and the back of some dude predictably hunched over his computer, working on something, and not moving. Whoever he was, he seemed utterly oblivious to this major breaking news story directly affecting one of his own colleagues. Didn't even care that the camera was on him. Probably didn't know, but typical of an AP reporter - wouldn't care.
And we waited.
And we waited some more. It had been a pet cause, internally, among AP staffers all over the world, for something like four years, holding vigils and prayer moments where we'd all get in a circle in the middle of the newsroom and hold hands and close our eyes and silently send prayers and good thoughts and hope and good hoodoo and the rest of it - for the release of Terry Anderson. One of the guys in our bureau had buttons made up. There were Terry Anderson POW-style bracelets that some staffers wore every day. It was a tremendous moment - one of our own had been a hostage for several years - finally on the verge of being released! As Joe Biden would say - THIS was a Big Fucking Deal!
And we kept waiting. Seemed like a long time. It was late in the LA bureau that night and most of the staff had gone home (hell, WE covered Hollywood for the most part, so nobody in our bureau was particularly key to this story). Looked much the same in NYC, too. And every time CNN would cut back over to the live shot at the New York AP newsroom, STILL nothing was happening yet, for the longest time! At one point, here in L.A., as we were watching and getting bored, the nighttime supervisor - who had a booming baritone voice, shoulda been in radio - spoke up:
"And THERE we see... the BALD spot... of the NIGHT guy... at the AP World Headquarters in New York!" And those of us who were still there literally collapsed in laughter!!!! Talk about breaking the tension!
The AP was full of random moments like that. I spent nine years there. There were some times when it was just the coolest thing to do - work at the AP. There was just a certain kind of cachet to it. I felt like I'd actually become a full-on news person. No frills, no pizazz, no lights, camera, makeup, blondes, fancy sets or phony frippery. Just the news in a plain brown wrapper or generic brand at the grocery store. And some amazing good times.
randys1
(16,286 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Regardless what's happened since, I still have a real sense of affection for the ol' "A&P"! I consider it a feather in my cap.
When I first hired on there, within a couple of weeks, the LA Times did a long feature story on the AP, that started on the left-hand column of the front page and went on all the way to the back pages. Everybody at the bureau was really buzzing about it, with great excitement, calling New York, calling Washington, calling their friends, calling their moms! The story opened with an anecdote about Mahatma Gandhi, back in the day, who had traveled across India by train to an obscure little outpost - late at night, in the rain. Waiting at the minimal train station to interview him was an AP correspondent. Gandhi was seriously impressed. Saw this as proof-positive that the AP really was EVERYWHERE. He commented that when he died, and arrived at whatever awaited him Upstairs, he fully expected to find an AP correspondent there, too, waiting to interview him.
That and the Mark Twain motto that's a proud AP legacy, as well: "There are only two forces that can carry light to all the corners of the globe... the sun in the heavens and the Associated Press down here."
Does kinda make one proud!
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)if she were not "Clooney's wife."
Regardless of the important human rights work she does, most people had never heard of her before she married George Clooney.
So, "married to George Clooney" would have been much better. She's a partner in the marriage, not a possession.
treestar
(82,383 posts)though representing such a person might have made the news anyway, but we'd have been less aware of the lawyer.
Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)...given that George Clooney has made a point of how important her work is to the world, and how insignificant his work is in comparison.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)Major tabloid fail.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... but you never know. Probably just some dweeb editor still pissed about what Clooney almost did to the Batman franchise. I mean, nipples on body armor? Damn... that's just wrong.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Nice!
(We had a similar saying when I worked in IT.)
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)... you can't spell "quit"? "spit"? "twit"?
underpants
(182,769 posts)You can't spell "Said Ass" without the Associated Press either
Rex
(65,616 posts)WTF!? 1950s here we come!
Orrex
(63,203 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)just ain't fair.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,306 posts)Then people might have paid attention to the conviction and sentences when they happened, rather than dropping with just 1 rec and 2 replies: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141192230
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)AP = Anachronistic Press
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)As opposed to "Joe Biden's wife"?
Doesn't it make sense to use the descriptor that most people are going to be familiar with? 99.9% of people would never have heard of Amal Clooney if she had not married George.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Mentioning that she's married to George Clooney gives some extra color to the story.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Some call it "extra color" while others (more accurately) call it irrelevance.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I'm not sure that the very fact that turns this into a news story is an "irrelevance".
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)The AP clearly identified her as an "actor's wife," as if that was the single most important factor in her representation of an Egyptian defendant. There was no capacity at all as Clooney's wife in which she was doing her own freaking job.
The woman was an internationally renown Human Rights Lawyer and activist long before she even laid eyes on George Clooney.
Rather than the writer of that tweet being lazy and pretty freaking sexist, I think that they should have taken the time to give her the credit of her own accomplishments, rather than pandering to the ignorant, fame-obsessed masses.
Her marriage to Clooney is no more than an after-thought and not an endorsement of her skills as a lawyer and activist.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And this would not even be a news story.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)...That she had previously represented Julian Assange and Yulia Tymoshenko, not to mention the fact that she had worked with Kofi Annan before, so that they could justify her being labeled as an "actor's wife," while working as lawyer in a high profile Egyptian trial, looks all that good a justification of that tweet.
Basically, putting her marriage at the center of that case speaks pretty poorly of what kind of things American readers would pay attention to in the news.
Focusing on her marriage in that trial, as a qualifier of her notoriety, diminishes her status as a human right lawyer.
Besides, if people were at all interested in finding out if she was related to George Clooney, I'm quite sure than those people would have taken the time to look her background up for themselves.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)to call themselves "Doctor". Or do you think we should refer to Newt as "Doctor Gingrich"?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)this is pretty much a nothingburger.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Why worry about it?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Why not "Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, dies suddenly"?
Casual reverse-sexism?
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)That's why mentioning him as her husband makes it relevant.
By the way, there's no such thing as "Casual reverse-sexism."
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Surely he was more than just "Christie Whitman's husband"?
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)This is the second time you've used death notices (specifically, the headlines, I presume) to cite examples.
Did you even bother to read text of the article this time? Much of it was dedicated to the work he did in behalf of his wife's political career. He was a first husband, a campaigner for his wife and advisor, not to mention the fact that he tended to avoid the public spotlight for himself, supporting his wife, who was the public figure between the two
State Governor, EPA Administrator and so on.
Clearly, aside from his own accomplishments, John Whitman dedicated a great amount of time supporting his wife's career.
On the other hand about Amal Clooney, how much of her own success and accomplishment can be attributed to the efforts of George?
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Climate change, health care costs, social security, keystone pipeline, fracking, TPP, and a few dozen other issues sort of take precedence on my worry list over how the AP refers to Ms Clooney.
Besides I have seen no evidence that Ms Clooney gives so much as a mouse fart with being identified as the wife of an actor.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)red dog 1
(27,792 posts)IMO, this is a classic example of making "a mountain out of a molehill."
I like George Clooney; and I like Amal Clooney as well.
.I admire her for her courage in representing unpopular clients such as Julian Assange and the Al-Jazeera journalist recently convicted & sentenced in Egypt.
She is, indeed, a human rights lawyer, a former teacher at Columbia School of Law and was appointed to several United Nations commissions
She's not merely "George Clooney's wife"..and AP did make a mistake in that Tweet which referred to her as merely "actor's wife"....but so what?
It was a TWEET, for God's sake.
A few months ago, AP discovered that the FBI was "operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cell phone surveillance technology -- all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government."
AP was the news organization that broke this important story; and to this day is the only news organization that seems at all interested it it.
THE FBI IS SECRETLY SPYING ON AMERICANS FROM AIRCRAFT FLYING OVER U.S. CITIES AND TOWNS..also THE FBI HAS SET UP DUMMY CORPORATIONS TO HIDE THIS FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE..
Now THAT is an important story, and it was AP that broke the story.
"The FBI is operating a small air force to spy on Americans"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141108012
From AP's story on the FBI's secret surveillance air force:
"The FBI asked AP not to disclose the names of the fake companies it uncovered saying that would saddle taxpayers with the expense of creating new cover companies to shield the government's involvement, and could endanger the planes and integrity of the surveillance missions.
The AP declined the FBI's request because the companies' names -- as well as common addresses linked to the Justice Department -- are listed on public documents and in government databases."
Well done, AP!