Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis cannot be fired.. Talking Points Memo:

[Stuart G]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

"As an elected official, Davis can't be fired; her impeachment would have to wait until the Legislature's regular session next year or a costly special session."

If you read the above story, this idiot cannot be fired. Nevertheless, she can be sent to jail, or fined immediately for contempt ofcourt...Now what if it were a "Liberal" Democrat who was disobeying a court order?.. several times? The media would be 24/7 on putting the "crook"in jail immediately. Supreme Court has refused the appeal. Now what?.. What a horrible person that disobeyer of court orders is.,if it were one of us. But it is one those who is a "I am listening to God" believer.. How will the media treat her??

[randys1]

1. I cant express my disgust for this person, no words will do it. It is one thing to hold

a despicable, disgusting, hateful and ignorant position on other peoples lives, but to use that opinion in an official capacity, fuck you

[Stuart G]

3. I agree...put her in jail on Thursday..immdiately

That is what the right wing would say if it were a Democrat. You can be the bank on it

[randys1]

6. They would have stormed the place by now if it was a liberal refusing to

provide gun licenses.

[Stuart G]

11. Well said, a true riot if "gun licenses" were refused on the exact same grounds.

And all you would be hearing about is the 2nd Amendment. Nothing about "guns killing" Killing is against God too.. Something about the 10 Commandments.

[Keefer]

34. But...

She is a democrat.

[NightWatcher]

2. You cannot be fired for not doing your job?

Then why even bother showing up at all.

I hope she is personally sued in court for federal civil rights violations.

[VMA131Marine]

4. I guess you haven't read the stories that carefully ...

Kim Davis is a Democrat

[Stuart G]

5. I canged the OP to "Liberal Democrat"

What bothers me is this jerk will be praised by many Republicans for her steadfast belief. What a jerk!

[randys1]

8. Lots of idiot rightwing Democrats, trust me

[yeoman6987]

23. When I found that out today, I was stunned

She is a democratic voter? A 4-times married Democratic politician? Horror!

[ncjustice80]

30. She needs to be booted/shunned by the party if that is true. n/t

[former9thward]

7. She is a Democrat.

Davis served as her mother's deputy for 27 years before she was elected as a Democrat to succeed her in November.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-refuses-same-sex-marriage-gods-authority/

[Stuart G]

9. Yes, you are correct. I right wing faith type..nt

[revmclaren]

10. I know a few democrats who are religious zealots....

Throw her in jail for contempt.

A 'D' in front of her name excuses nothing.

[former9thward]

17. I don't think you know Democrats in the South.

Or for that matter many Democrats in the AA and Hispanic communities. Its a big country. Not everyone thinks like you or thinks like me. I have a feeling she will be more than happy to go to jail.

[revmclaren]

19. For a while....

Then reality will sink in and she will make a plea deal. It is sad that there are still a large number of democratic bigots as well. My family is why I left Christianity and became a pagan.

More fun too.

[jmowreader]

37. In parts of the South, "Democrat" doesn't mean what we think it does

As I like to say, a Southern Democrat and a Northern Republican look an awful lot alike. How do you think the teabaggers justify claiming they're a "bipartisan" bowel movement?

[RKP5637]

12. This total thing is outrageous! Basically, she's giving the US Supreme Court the finger and telling

them to fuck off. I'm amazed this has been tolerated this far. And, I'm so F'en tired of hearing god-shit in this country as a defense against almost anything. An invisible deity from antiquity and archaic rambling texts. And millions in the US without a brain!

[napi21]

13. Did you see her Atty. interviewed on "Hardball" tonight?

(Chris is off) This nut ball's atty. was being interviewed and he said "Her BIG problem is that her name is at the bottom of each of those license permits. All she wants is that her name be removed. Replace it with "Authorized by the State" or anything other than her name. The Governor could make that happen I a second. Why not just accommodate her religious beliefs?"

I don't think they should do that because what she is being asked to do is simply part of the job. IF she doesn't like it, she can quit!

But it IS or at least sounds like an easy solution.

[csziggy]

33. If she doesn't want her name on the licenses she should QUIT

She voluntarily ran for office. No one drafted her or forced her to take the position. If she is no longer willing to do all that the position requires she should QUIT.

Freedom of religion does not mean she can inflict her beliefs on everyone else in her county.

[napi21]

35. I agree, but she's had this job for 20+ years! You KNOW no one in that office

is going to go against her. I'm SURE after all those years, she has lots of friends.

[csziggy]

36. Yes, one article said she'd worked for her mother for 27 years

While her mother held the position. And now she's hired her son to work in the office. That is an amazing level of nepotism!

[jmowreader]

38. Her attorney is a liar

The Wednesday newspapers will carry an AP story about this. In the piece she states that for her this is a heaven-and-hell decision - she literally believes that if her office issues a marriage license to one same-sex couple, she will be sent to hell for all eternity.

[SummerSnow]

14. She'll be switching parties soon

[Stuart G]

15. You just hit the nail on the head..

She will get, "contempt of court" then become a Republican, then beg for money and become a millionaire. It might have been her plan all along..

[daredtowork]

16. Separation of Church and State?

Impeachment on grounds of violating the Constitution shouldn't even need to wait for a vote. She's abrogated her sworn duty to the office.

[yeoman6987]

24. Where in the constitution does it say separation between church and state?

[daredtowork]

25. The 1st Amendment is routinely interpreted that way. nt

[yeoman6987]

29. Well that's nice but not factual

[daredtowork]

31. Factual - so routine this the way it's taught in schools.

At least that was the case when I went to high school. In a conservative area of Virginia, no less.

[yeoman6987]

32. I am saying it isn't written officially anywhere

However it has become a well known saying.

[HughBeaumont]

39. Still doesn't change the fact that the founders never wanted the US to be a Christian nation.

Nor should it be, EVER.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/06/constitutional-myth-4-the-constitution-doesnt-separate-church-and-state/240481/

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_United_States_as_a_Christian_nation

[moondust]

18. If she can change her own job description

after she takes a government job, then why can't everybody who takes a government job?

Silly.

[Fred Sanders]

20. This could be a great opportunity for the mass media to open a discussion of what "secular State"

means...but who am kidding...there will be the usual fair and balanced discussion of "Secular State: good or bad for America?", at best, all debates of course being "debated" by the same crowds of pundits and talking heads who are experts in nothing but deflection, half-truths and self-promotion.

[Raster]

21. "Under God's authority."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/08/31/clerk-must-issue-gay-marriage-licenses.html

The Kentucky county clerk whose request to deny issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples was denied by the Supreme Court on Monday has continued to refuse same-sex couples “under God’s authority.” When Kim Davis came out to waiting couples Tuesday, she was asked “under whose authority” she was denying them licenses. “Under God’s authority,” she said.

And there you fucking have it. Kim Davis doesn't have to yield to the law of the land, she is "Under God's authority."

I cannot begin to tell you how fucking disgusted I am that this backwoods crone deens to speak with the authority of God.

[Lefty Thinker]

22. Forget impeachment, go for USC Title 42, Sec. 1983

It's not like a Republican legislature is going out of its way to impeach this woman. But each couple denied a marriage license by her intransigence probably has a USC Title 42, Sec. 1983 case which provides for monetary damages and, likely, for "reasonable" attorneys fees. Have you ever seen how "reasonable" goes when it's the other party paying? And most states don't indemnify for 1983 cases since the perpetrator of the tort has already been found in violation of the law by a court. So she'll spend some time in jail, some lawyers will get rich, and she will have no money for a while.

[rurallib]

26. can her pay be suspended until she complies by the board of supervisors?

or whoever runs the gummint down there

[RandySF]

27. She can still be held in Contempt of Court.

[Takket]

28. if the government will not obey the law...

the People should seize the clerk's office and restore order. it is unconscionable for the People to simply have to accept a government official not obeying the law.

seize the office and let the courts dare to declare the licenses null and void.

[quaker bill]

40. In most states anyway,

The Governor can remove lower level elected officials for criminal acts committed on the job. This is true in FL. Now failing to issue the licenses is probably not a criminal act, but at some point in the process contempt of court can become criminal. It probably needs to go there.

Quakers at times engage in civil disobedience on religious principal. However our approach is to take the burden personally rather than foist it on others. The Meetings I serve strongly approve of same gender marriages. However we do not approve of the death penalty among other things. If somehow I ended up in a position related to that (very unlikely), my religious testimony would be to resign rather than issue a death warrant.

While I would not agree with her, I could respect her decision to resign rather than issue licenses that are contrary to her religious beliefs, given she did so promptly so as not to inconvenience others. Making her religious burden someone else's problem does not work for me. I do not find this to be a statement of faith, it is just "praying on street corners", something the Bible discourages.

It irritates me that this sort of behavior is passed off as "Christian". it isn't.