More Evidence of Roundup's Link to Kidney, Liver Damage

[marmar]

More Evidence of Roundup's Link to Kidney, Liver Damage

Tuesday, 01 September 2015 00:00
By Brian Bienkowski, Environmental Health News | Report


Long-term exposure to tiny amounts of Roundup - thousands of times lower than what is permitted in US drinking water - may lead to serious problems in the liver and kidneys, according to a new study.

The study looked at the function of genes in these organs and bolsters a controversial 2012 study that found rats exposed to small amounts of the herbicide Roundup in their drinking water had liver and kidney damage.

It is the first to examine the impacts of chronic, low exposure of Roundup on genes in livers and kidneys and suggests another potential health impact for people and animals from the widely used weed killer.

"Given even very low levels of exposure, Roundup can potentially result in organ damage when it comes to liver and kidney function," said senior author Michael Antoniou, head of the Gene Expression and Therapy Group at King's College London.

"The severity we don't know, but our data say there will be harm given enough time," he said. ..............(more)

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32585-more-evidence-of-roundup-s-link-to-kidney-liver-damage

[tecelote]

1. Pesticides are killing our planet and poisoning us but profits are strong so...

[djean111]

2. Time for a law that protects corporations from lawsuits about this, right?

And maybe a sneering directive to not feed rats food contaminated with Roundup.

[GreatGazoo]

4. Yes, Stop these studies. Labeling food, doing studies and research is anti-science !!

The marketing department says there is absolute consensus that the world needs more Roundup, and that settles it.



Cha-ching!

[freedom fighter jh]

3. Good reason to avoid genetically modified foods.

Some plants are genetically modified just so the crops can tolerate Roundup.

Genetically modified foods cannot be labeled organic. To avoid Roundup, avoid GMO. To avoid GMO, look for either organic or a label that says non-GMO.

[HuckleB]

21. Yes. That way you can get much more toxic herbicides in your food.

Oh, wait.

[blackspade]

5. The Monsanto people should be here soon to...

'Debunk' this new study.... Or tell us that it is only one study.... Or tell us that Roundup feeds the world.... Or some other clap trap.....

[Enthusiast]

6. +100%!

[snort]

13. #11 right on time!

[marmar]

17. Yep, with exceptionally weak attacks this time.

And of course the (translation: I have no actual criticism) icon.

[Major Nikon]

24. Sure, because Seralini publishing in a shitty pay-to-play journal is so strong

[HuckleB]

22. There is nothing "new" about this "study."

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It's just rehashed Seralini nonsense. It's anti-GMO propaganda that isn't supported by actual science. At some point, it should hit you that the anti-GMO movement is truly unethical.

PS: Will GMOs Hurt My Body? The Public’s Concerns and How Scientists Have Addressed Them http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/will-gmos-hurt-my-body/

[Major Nikon]

25. Their first clue should be that Seralini has to pay to get his shitty research published

[HuckleB]

27. And the even more interesting thing is who funds Seralini.

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/06/18/organic-industry-and-other-funders-behind-seralinis-anti-gmo-studies/

[Major Nikon]

29. Big Organic!

[pnwmom]

61. Get real. The organic industry is only 4% of total food sales in the US, according to

the USDA.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/natural-resources-environment/organic-agriculture/organic-market-overview.aspx

[Major Nikon]

65. "Get real" coming from someone who channels Seralini and Benbrook is a hoot

Last I checked Seralini isn't American, BTW.

[pnwmom]

67. 4 % is still 4%. Confronted with a verified fact, you attempt to change the subject. Typical.

The figure comes from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, as cited in the link.

[Major Nikon]

68. Now that's some funny shit right there

Seralini is French, lives in France, and is financed by the European organic industry. So you quote figures from the US and then claim I'm the one attempting to change the subject. That's rich.

[pnwmom]

69. Oh, right. It's another one of those French conspiracies against the US.

[Major Nikon]

71. And now you change the subject again

As funny as you are, I've gone down your road of absurdity as far as I care. Please do continue alone though. Soon there won't be a dry eye in the house.

[pnwmom]

72. In France the market share of organic food is even lower: 2.4%. So it's not Big Organic there,either

I'll give you the link, though I know facts aren't a concern for you.

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/manufacturers/insight/alerts/Pages/ContinuedgrowthintheFrenchorganicfoodmarket.aspx

The French organic food market represented 2.4% of the overall food market in 2012 compared to 1.3% in 2007. The market share is most important for eggs (15%) and milk (9%).

[blackspade]

36. This study looks at the effects of Roundup not GMOs

but thanks for trying to conflate the two.

[HuckleB]

39. The Roundup propaganda is a favorite tool of the anti-GMO crowd.

[blackspade]

44. GMOs, however, were not the point of the study.

Now were they?

But keep up your pro-Monsanto propaganda!

[HuckleB]

45. LOL!

This is hilarious. You're pulling the Monsanto goofy routine out of your back pocket, while you attack for me doing exactly what the anti-GMO crowd does every day.

Oh, goodness. This is rich.

[blackspade]

50. Again, this is about Monsanto's Roundup product.

You are the one dragging GMOs into the discussion as a way of deflecting from the potential health issues associated with the use of the Roundup pesticide.
But have at your pro-GMO comedy routine.

It's GMO supporters like you that just may make me decide that non-GMO foods are better for me. Good job.
Oh the irony!

Waiting with baited breath for your witty response!

[HuckleB]

51. Repeating yourself doesn't help.

Ignoring the context you've been given only makes it worse.

Lame sauce.

Now, do you even understand this study, or its actual ramifications?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

[blackspade]

64. Apparently not. Facts don't seem to be your strong suit.

And I have to say that your response was less than witty.

Care for another try?

[Politicub]

7. Big farming drenches crops in this stuff, plus other herbicides

An herbicide is like a poison for plants.

Genetically modified soybeans and corn have a gene that makes them resistant to Round-Up. Some weeds are starting to become resistant (natural selection in action), so more genes are inserted that are resistant to other herbicides.

The result is a plant drenched with all manner of herbicides and pesticides. Unless you can afford organic produce, you are ingesting this stuff every single day, day-in and day-out. And even if you can afford organics, the stuff they use on factory farmed organic produce is pretty questionable, too. Think nicotine and loads of sulfur.

[sorefeet]

8. my house has GMO corn on all

4 sides. I don't drink my well water any more, I haven't seen a bee in 3 years and my plum trees don't fruit. I talked to the farmer and he said if he didn't use GMO, he would use 4 times the poison.
Did you know that GMO corn has only one ear of corn per stalk??? Every bit of this corn is one ear.

[Hydra]

12. Talk about Monsanto's strangling for profit

Pay for seeds every year, get 1 ear of corn.

[HuckleB]

20. The plural of anecdote is not data.

[Bonx]

23. GMO corn turned my cat into a newt !

[Major Nikon]

30. GMO corn turned my newt into a cat!

[Bonx]

32. Trade ?

[Major Nikon]

34. Not unless yours is as cool as mine

[NuclearDem]

31. GMO corn cancelled Firefly :(

[haikugal]

76. Damn them!!

[GreatGazoo]

74. here is an article for him

Farmers Return to GMO-free Corn to Boost Income:

For Dammann and other Midwest farmers, the burgeoning interest in non-GMO foods has increased how much they get paid to grow crops in fields once populated exclusively with genetically modified corns and soybeans. The revenue hike is a welcome benefit at a time when lower commodity prices are pushing farm income down to what's expected to be the lowest level in six years.

"We never really thought we would go back to (non-GMO). But the consumer, in my opinion, has sent a clear message that a certain percentage of our customers are willing to pay more for the non-GMO lines," Dammann said. "This non-GMO thing has seemed to take hold and gain a lot of traction."

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2015/04/18/non-gmo-farming/25951693/

[Major Nikon]

9. Séralini

[Omaha Steve]

10. K&R!

[Indydem]

11. Here's your tip:

Don't go eat the corn or drink the water for a few hours after they spray.

Then it isn't roundup anymore, or it is bound to the soil.

Science is science.

People aren't being exposed to roundup, so this science is researching a phenomenon which doesn't exist.

[KT2000]

52. that is just wrong

it has been measured in the air weeks after application.

[Indydem]

53. Why would roundup be in the air?

It's not an aerosol, nor is it applied in any way as to become airborne.

Care to cite your fantastical claim?

[KT2000]

54. you are free

to look it up.
Foliage is sprayed - wind and movement of that foliage keeps the glyphosate and other herbicides circulating in the air long after application. Apparently glyphosate does not break down as quickly as thought.

[pnwmom]

63. The US Geological Survey says glyphosate travels in the air and in water.

If it gets in waterways, it gets into rain, and thus into the air.

Care to site your links proving that it doesn't?

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2909#.VegH6tNViko

Technical Announcement:
Widely Used Herbicide Commonly Found in Rain and Streams in the Mississippi River Basin
Released: 8/29/2011 8:19:35 AM

"Though glyphosate is the mostly widely used herbicide in the world, we know very little about its long term effects to the environment," says Paul Capel, USGS chemist and an author on this study. "This study is one of the first to document the consistent occurrence of this chemical in streams, rain and air throughout the growing season. This is crucial information for understanding where management efforts for this chemical would best be focused."

In these studies, Glyphosate was frequently detected in surface waters, rain and air in areas where it is heavily used in the basin. The consistent occurrence of glyphosate in streams and air indicates its transport from its point of use into the broader environment.

Additionally, glyphosate persists in streams throughout the growing season in Iowa and Mississippi, but is generally not observed during other times of the year. The degradation product of glyphosate, aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA), which has a longer environmental lifetime, was also frequently detected in streams and rain.

Detailed results of this glyphosate research are available in "Occurrence and fate of the herbicide glyphosate and its degradate aminomethylphosphonic acid in the atmosphere," published in volume 30 of Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry and in "Fate and transport of glyphosate and aminomethylphosphonic acid in surface waters of agricultural basins," published online in Pest Management Science. Copies of the reports are available from the journals or from Paul Capel ([e-mail]).

[pnwmom]

62. Here's your tip. Roundup gets absorbed by a plant's foliage and from there

into the plant.

You can't wash it all off.

Science is science. People ARE being exposed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

Glyphosate's mode of action as an herbicide is to inhibit a plant enzyme involved in the synthesis of the aromatic amino acids: tyrosine, tryptophan, and phenylalanine. It is absorbed through foliage, and minimally through roots,[6][7][8] and translocated to growing points. Because of this mode of action, it is only effective on actively growing plants; it is not effective as a pre-emergence herbicide. Some crops have been genetically engineered to be resistant to glyphosate (i.e., Roundup Ready, also created by Monsanto Company). Such crops allow farmers to use glyphosate as a postemergence herbicide against both broadleaf and cereal weeds, but the development of similar resistance in some weed species is emerging as a costly problem. Roundup Ready soybean was the first Roundup Ready crop.

[Octafish]

14. Roundup means ''Endocrine Disruption''

Chemicals that mimic the body's chemicals cause big problems.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=roundup+endocrine+disruptor&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0CC0QgQMwAGoVChMI0PXD9b_YxwIVxxaSCh00tQAS

Ignore the truth at your own peril.

[Major Nikon]

26. EPA calls bullshit

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-06/documents/glyphosate-417300_2015-06-29_txr0057175.pdf

[Octafish]

33. Fathead minnows aren't people.

But, that's OK if you're good with it.

[Major Nikon]

35. I'm pretty sure people are mammals

But then again, who can really be sure with alien abductions?

E. Conclusions
The conclusion of the WoE evaluation is that glyphosate demonstrates no convincing evidence of potential interaction with the estrogen, androgen or thyroid pathways in mammals or wildlife.

[Octafish]

37. What are the differences between a Flamer, Troll and Shill?

http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/01/12-step-pro-nuclear-trolls-recovery.html

[Major Nikon]

38. interesting in that it covers the pathology of namecallers

Not sayin' you, but you know, just sayin'

But what does any of this have to do with the BFEE?

[Octafish]

40. Lots.

EXCERPT...

Soon thereafter, Donald Rumsfeld (who had served in various positions in the Nixon and Ford administrations, including as President Ford's defense secretary, and at this time headed the multinational pharmaceutical company G.D. Searle & Co.) was dispatched to the Middle East as a presidential envoy. His December 1983 tour of regional capitals included Baghdad, where he was to establish "direct contact between an envoy of President Reagan and President Saddam Hussein," while emphasizing "his close relationship" with the president [Document 28]. Rumsfeld met with Saddam, and the two discussed regional issues of mutual interest, shared enmity toward Iran and Syria, and the U.S.'s efforts to find alternative routes to transport Iraq's oil; its facilities in the Persian Gulf had been shut down by Iran, and Iran's ally, Syria, had cut off a pipeline that transported Iraqi oil through its territory. Rumsfeld made no reference to chemical weapons, according to detailed notes on the meeting [Document 31].

CONTINUED...

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Better living through war for the Have-Mores, right Major Nikon?

[Major Nikon]

41. Well you certainly have my vote for the non-sequitur award

As always.

[Octafish]

42. Gee. Isn't that what a Troll would do?

You know, set up a phony argument and pretend he or she didn't.

As for the BFEE, I don't know why you make fun of me for pointing out their treason and criminality.

Their trail as warmonger-banksters goes back at least to war profiteering during World War I, when Samuel Prescott Bush ran Remington selling rifles to both sides. Before that, there's evidence their ancestors were slave holders.

I've talked about his son, Prescott Sheldon Bush; grandson, George Herbert Walker Bush; and great-grandsons, George Walker Bush, John Ellis (Jeb) Bush, and Neil Mallon Bush.

From when I've written about the BFEE, you seem to take their side, which is odd for someone interested in supporting democracy, Major Nikon.

[Major Nikon]

48. Gee. Isn't that what a Troll would do?

You know, namecalling.

I agree that you don't know why I make fun of you about the BFEE, which makes it even all that much more fun. Whenever you start injecting non-sequiturs, I through out one of your favorite conspiracy theories so you can go just that much farther out into left field. It works every single time. I figure if you can't manage to stay on topic, might as well have some fun with it.

[nationalize the fed]

58. +100

Take a glimpse through the revolving door

[SidDithers]

15. Truth Out ranks down there with HuffPo on their science writing...

Pimping the Seralini study?

Truthout thinks Joseph Mercola is credible, but questions the motives of Paul Offit.

They've become a joke.

Sid

[marmar]

16. It's not from Truthout, it's from Environmental Health News.

[HuckleB]

19. Which is actually worse.

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And if it's pushing Seralini, well, it doesn't matter. The source has clear problems. BTW, this not "new" "study" was pushed in GD already, and it was shown for what it is: Nonsense. Why would you repost it?

PS: There are lots of ways single studies can produce statistically significant results and many have nothing to do with treatment effects. A hypothesis only starts gaining strength after trials are replicated and multiple lines of evidence point in the same direction. That is even more important when results contradict the weight of existing evidence.

This study says nothing about clinical effects of glyphosate residues actually found on food consumed by humans under real-world conditions. At best, it suggests a possible avenue for further inquiry.

[arikara]

56. Thing is

that those of us who don't want to ingest roundup and other chemicals with our food are never going to believe its harmless no matter who you cite or who you belittle. So you can make fun of any studies you want, its just not going to make any difference.

[Major Nikon]

73. Big agra is now putting hydric acid in many food products and in most instances they don't label it

Hydric acid is commonly used as an industrial solvent and can be fatal even in small doses. Andy Warhol died of hydric acid poisoning.

[KT2000]

59. the original

http://www.ehjournal.net/content/14/1/70

[NuclearDem]

18. Seralini again.

It's like citing Wakefield on the risks of vaccination.

[JonLP24]

28. Monsanto is evil

VICE apparently reported some ingredient they give to cows which then become ingested by humans are antibiotic resistant so I wonder what is their goals are or the end game is or an "honest mistake"?

[Johnny2X2X]

43. Sad

It's sad when there is so much lack of science knowledge on a site that is supposed to be liberal like this one. The replies in this thread mimic the replies from the Climate Change Deniers on the Right.

This is not a real study people, the website that the study is on is not a valid scientific outlet, In fact they are a for profit company pedaling junk science much of which they've been forced to retract. 170 retractions in the last few years.

Roundup may be terrible for people, but the op linked to phony info.

[HuckleB]

46. +1

[uppityperson]

47. ++++++

[Octafish]

49. Try this one.

Glyphosate induces human breast cancer cells growth via estrogen receptors

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691513003633

Lots more:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=roundup+endocrine+disruptor&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0CC0QgQMwAGoVChMI0PXD9b_YxwIVxxaSCh00tQAS

[Judi Lynn]

55. Yes, indeed! Thank you. n/t

[flamingdem]

57. And people wonder why breast cancer rates are so high

maybe they should tie pink ribbon around a can of Roundup

[Major Nikon]

70. Global warming is caused by a decline in the pirate population

[KT2000]

60. not phony info

http://www.ehjournal.net/content/14/1/70

[Major Nikon]

75. Do you understand what pay-to-play means?

It means your research is so shitty you have to pay someone to publish it.

[SidDithers]

66. Nailed it...nt

Sid

[Quantess]

77. K & R