could a pacifist Quaker refuse to issue a gun pemit? a Buddhist refuse to issue a hunting license?

[rdking647]

just something to ask the idiots supporting the kentucky clerk bigot

after all the Quakers and Buddhists could claim religious freedom too

[atreides1]

1. You could ask them.

And their usual answer will be "Those aren't real religions"!

It goes along with their explanation, that God works in mysterious ways, when asked why does God let innocent people die!

[NightWatcher]

2. Could a Muslim at the DMV refuse to give drivers licenses to women?

How many of these fundies would stand up for him?

[malthaussen]

3. Friends do not take jobs requiring an oath.

Oaths are against their testimony. Generally speaking, integrity means that if one cannot discharge the duty for which he is hired, or refuses to follow a lawful order, he resigns. There isn't much of that around any more, but there are occasional examples.

-- Mal

[seaotter]

5. Richard Nixon.

[malthaussen]

10. Only nominally a Friend.

Figures someone would mention him. I rather thought the point of this OP was to detail the hypocrisy of people who claim titles they don't live up to.

-- Mal

[KamaAina]

13. In fact, the Friends booted him out

for being a warmonger.

[seaotter]

14. Just curious, what makes one "nominally" a Friend, and who makes that judgment?

[malthaussen]

16. One can claim to be anything.

Although I haven't examined the question recently, I believe Nixon was expelled from his Meeting. In the Friends, who are very de-centralized, the Meeting pretty much determines who is and who isn't a Friend. But given that Mr Nixon was rather careless about observing Friend testimony (he was a naval officer, after all, and pacifism is pretty high on their list), I'd say what makes him "nominal" was that he didn't practice what he professed.

-- Mal

[seaotter]

17. Thanks.

Not many do "practice what <one> professed"

[KamaAina]

12. That's why oaths of office include the option to affirm.

[malthaussen]

15. But do all such oaths?

The US census didn't include an option to affirm the first time I worked for them. I mentioned it, in fact, as especially strange in SE PA, where you can't shake a stick without hitting a meetinghouse. The next census, they did include the option. Not that I'm claiming I had anything to do with it.

I did, however, include the option to affirm when I was training people, even though it wasn't in the script at the time.

Pretty sure there are still few lawyers who are Friends.

-- Mal

[mmonk]

4. They could I suppose. It would be another realization for the religious right

that their ideas have consequences they don't consider.

[GreatGazoo]

6. Could an atheist IRS agent ignore tax exemption for churches ?

[JonLP24]

8. I think he could if it was possible to ignore

but how would the tax be established and what is the legal process with that? Like a church claims tax-exempt status so not familiar with the process of that. I think sometimes and possibly churches would agree that those TVevangelists solicit donations often in a lot of ridiculous ways promising things as far as God will wipe away your credit debt with this donation or one said God wanted me to have this plane. John Oliver recently did a focus on those snake oil or 'false prophets' but yet are tax-exempt according to his claim which got me thinking Kevin Trudeau got in the wrong area. He would have been better off writing books and the TV preacher circuit selling "What God doesn't want you to know".

[JonLP24]

7. I would ask why a Quarker is in the gun issing permit business if he didn't approve

Same with the Buddhist unless the goal was to not issue which would make sense.

[Mendocino]

9. Could a mailman

refuse to deliver birth control pills?

[KamaAina]

11. An Amish person refuse to issue a driver's license?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027132661

[Eleanors38]

18. I'm sorry, but the God of pronunciation morally opposes vocal fry.